Mailman 3 July 2008 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderation requests? - was: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 48
by Mark Sapiro July 20, 2008

July 20, 2008

t292f-misc2(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > You asked about the reason. Below is the reason. Is there a setting > I should change? > > Reason: Post to moderated list The poster's moderate flag is set. > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: t292f-misc2(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> I am still asked to moderate requests even though moderation was >> turned off in Privacy > Sender. The default_member_moderation setting on Privacy … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 48
by t292f-misc2＠yahoo.com July 19, 2008

July 19, 2008

I am still asked to moderate requests even though moderation was turned off in Privacy > Sender. Any suggestion? mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to mailman-users(a)python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mailman-users-request(a)python.org You can reach the person managing the list at … [View More]mailman-users-owner(a)python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: still virtual domain (Mark Sapiro) 2. Re: Renaming lists - how to change the list "real_name" afterwards (Mark Sapiro) 3. including text in msg_header from external files (Maciej Homziuk) 4. Re: including text in msg_header from external files (Mark Sapiro) 5. Re: Renaming lists - how to change the list "real_name" afterwards (Terri Oda) 6. Re: list archives (Michael Welch) 7. Re: Mailman and virtual mailhosting (postfix) (Jens Meyer) From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> CC: Mailman-Users(a)python.org To: Dony Tata <dony1985.0729(a)yahoo.co.id> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:48:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] still virtual domain Dony Tata wrote: > how to configure virtual domain with tutorial in http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html, > > Here's an example. Say that Postfix is configured to handle the virtual > domains dom1.ain, dom2.ain, and dom3.ain, and further > that in your main.cf file you've got the following settings: > myhostname = mail.dom1.ain > mydomain = dom1.ain > mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain > virtual_alias_maps = > hash:/some/path/to/virtual-dom1, > hash:/some/path/to/virtual-dom2, > hash:/some/path/to/virtual-dom3 > > If in your virtual-dom1 file, you've got the following lines: > dom1.ain IGNORE > @dom1.ain @mail.dom1.ain > How to make file virtual-dom2 and virtual-dom3 ? Except for the subject this is exactly the same thing you posted less than 11 hours previously. My answer at still applies. As far as the virtual-dom2 and virtual-dom3 files in this example are concerned, like the virtual-dom1 file, they would be pre-existing files in your Postfix installation before integration with Mailman. If you won't tell us what your configuration is and what you want to do, we can't help you. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> CC: mailman-users(a)python.org To: aidan(a)wemail.info Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:56:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list "real_name" afterwards Aidan C A Hopkins wrote: > > Thanks very much - this did the trick, with one exception - the archives > are still bearing the old name. Presumably this just needs a rebuild as > mentioned somewhere in the FAQ which I used yesterday. Some of the archive pages like the TOC and the current month's index will be regenerated with the new name, but most of the pages are static at this point, so yes, a rebuild of the archive is required to fix them. > Perhaps your instructions need adding to the FAQ?! Except I have no idea why you weren't able to change the name via the General Options page. I did it myself in my 2.1.11 installation to be sure it worked, and it did. Is your Mailman a package? What version? -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan From: Maciej Homziuk <maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de> To: mailman-users(a)python.org Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:35:51 +0200 Subject: [Mailman-Users] including text in msg_header from external files Hi, I have got the following problem: I would like use my own application to manage the headers in the e-mails that are being postet over my mailing list. My application saves txt file on my server and I would like mailman to load the content of that file and put it into the header. Is there any way to do this? best regards M. Homziuk From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> CC: mailman-users(a)python.org To: Maciej Homziuk <maciej.homziuk(a)deutsche-versicherungsboerse.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:14:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] including text in msg_header from external files Maciej Homziuk wrote: > > I have got the following problem: I would like use my own application to > manage the headers in the e-mails that are being postet over my mailing > list. My application saves txt file on my server and I would like > mailman to load the content of that file and put it into the header. > > Is there any way to do this? How dynamic is this content. If it doesn't change often, you could consider wrapping it between msg_header = """ and """ So the whole file looks like msg_header = """Line 1 Line 2 etc. """ and then run bin/config_list -i /path/to/file listname to update the list. You could also modify Mailman/Handlers/Decorate.py to read the header from a file. To make it somewhat general, you could modify the decorate() function to look at the template argument and if it begins with a '/' consider it to be a path to a file containing the text. This would then work for messages and digests and headers and footers. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan From: Terri Oda <terri(a)zone12.com> CC: mailman-users(a)python.org To: aidan(a)wemail.info Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:43:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list "real_name" afterwards On 18-Jul-08, at 12:52 PM, Aidan C A Hopkins wrote: > Thanks very much - this did the trick, with one exception - the > archives > are still bearing the old name. Presumably this just needs a > rebuild as > mentioned somewhere in the FAQ which I used yesterday. > > Perhaps your instructions need adding to the FAQ?! The wiki can be edited by anyone, so please go ahead and do that Aidan! Terri From: Michael Welch <mwelch(a)redwoodalliance.org> To: mailman-users(a)python.org Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:56:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] list archives Mark Sapiro wrote at 10:14 AM 7/17/2008: >>More importantly, how does one search the mailman archives looking >>for all posts that contain particular text? > > >See . I was pleased to see that the DreamHost implementation of the Mailman archives includes htdig, which seems to be a nice little search facility. - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwelch(a)redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org From: Jens Meyer <jm2(a)jensmeyer.de> CC: mailman-users(a)python.org To: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:29:54 +0200 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and virtual mailhosting (postfix) Dear Mark, hello all! Thank you very much for your detailed reply to my request from June. Your help is greatly appreciated - but unfortunately I had no time to check this out until now due to work-overload and holidays. My system accepts mails for listname(a)lists.myserver.de without problems. The only problem is that I can not use the internal redirection from mailman to listname(a)myserver.de without (internal) postfix-warnings because the domain myserver.de is used by the virtual mailhosting also (see my last post). So one solution would be to "ask" mailman to redirect all emails not to listname(a)myserver.de but to listname(a)MAIL.myserver.de. Do you think this is possible or is there another solution for my problem? Kind regards, Jens Mark Sapiro schrieb: > Jens Meyer wrote: >> Our postfix-mailserver hosts several domains (virtual mailhosting, >> postfix/mysql) and "mailman". >> >> The "primary domain" myserver.de is a virtualized domain also. So this >> domain is not listed in mydestination: >> --> >> myhostname = mail.myserver.de >> mydomain = myserver.de >> myorigin = $mydomain >> >> mydestination = $myhostname, localhost >> <-- >> >> As far as I understand mailman forwards all emails to the "primary >> domain" (mydomain) and mailman is only working if I add $mydomain to >> mydestination. > > > This is the assumption of Mailman/Postfix integration. > > >> But when doing this there are warnings from postfix that it is not >> allowed to list the domain in the virtual aliases (mysql-database) and >> in relay_domains. >> >> Is there any possiblity to configure mailman to forward the emails in >> ./data/virtual-mailman not to "testliste2(a)myserver.de" but to >> "testliste2(a)mail.myserver.de"? >> >> My actual config is: >> --> >> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.myserver.de' >> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.myserver.de' >> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' >> >> MTA = 'Postfix' >> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.myserver.de'] >> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) >> <-- > > > I don't understand your configuration. The above Mailman config items > say that lists.myserver.de is a postfix virtual domain and that > Mailman lists whose host_name is lists.myserver.de will get > virtual_mailman entries of the form > > testliste2(a)lists.myserver.de testliste2 > > (i.e. map the virtual domain address 'testliste2(a)lists.myserver.de' to > local name 'testliste2' where it will be handled by the 'testliste2:' > entry in aliases). However, your setting of DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = > 'mail.myserver.de' says lists will be created with a host_name of > 'mail.myserver.de', so no virtual_mailman entries will be created at > all. > > Something is clearly wrong. From your description, I think if you change > > POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.myserver.de'] > > to > > POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['mail.myserver.de'] > > And run Mailman's bin/genaliases, you will get what you want. I.e., you > will get virtual_mailman with entries like > > testliste2(a)mail.myserver.de testliste2 > > which will map the virtual domain list address > 'testliste2(a)mail.myserver.de[' to the local name 'testliste2' which > will be delivered to Mailman according to the 'testliste2' alias in > Mailman's data/aliases. > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ [View Less]

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list archives
by Michael Welch July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

Hi Friends. I have noticed that this list's archives include 3 months which have not happened yet. How has this occurred, and what will happen when we reach that date and new posts crash into the improperly dated archives? More importantly, how does one search the mailman archives looking for all posts that contain particular text? I understand that many folks use mailarchive.com, but that seems a bit out of our control. Will it be there forever? - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, … [View More]

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Renaming lists - how to change the list "real_name" afterwards
by Aidan C A Hopkins July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

I have renamed two GNU Mailman lists using the four "mv" commands in the middle of the following FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030617 When I go back into the new admin screen, the list name in the first box still shows "oldlist" and needs changing to "newlist". I get this error if I try to do so on that screen: Error: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's name by case only. I was expecting this to happen, so presumably there is a … [View More]

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including text in msg_header from external files
by Maciej Homziuk July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

Hi, I have got the following problem: I would like use my own application to manage the headers in the e-mails that are being postet over my mailing list. My application saves txt file on my server and I would like mailman to load the content of that file and put it into the header. Is there any way to do this? best regards M. Homziuk

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still virtual domain
by Dony Tata July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

how to configure virtual domain with tutorial in http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html, Here's an example. Say that Postfix is configured to handle the virtual domains dom1.ain, dom2.ain, and dom3.ain, and further that in your main.cf file you've got the following settings: myhostname = mail.dom1.ain mydomain = dom1.ain mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain virtual_alias_maps = hash:/some/path/to/virtual-dom1, … [View More]

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script
by Melinda Gilmore July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

I am trying to write a script with bin/withlist -l -r fix_url listname in it. But I keep getting an erro for the fix_url part. Like the script cannot see the second half with the withlist. The error I get is Importing /usr/local/mailman/bin/fix_url... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/withlist", line 299, in ? main() File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/withlist", line 267, in main __import__(module) ImportError: No module named /usr/local/mailman/bin/… [View More]

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Palm Versamail user claims empty e-mail message bodies
by Clark Venable July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

I just started using Mailman (2.1.11) via Dreamhost. I have one user who tells me that, on his Palm Treo using Versamail (all software up-to-date) he receives messages from the list, but the message body is always blank. I've searched and read the posts on this forum and have a) asked him if his e-mails have attachments that may actually contain the message (there is not attachment) and b) have removed the string of text that I was adding to the beginning of messages. Is there anything obvious … [View More]

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My issue with using web server on the server to get to mailman
by Mike Brown July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

Enhancement request: Allow the following to work: http://localhost/mailman/... Then, somewhere within the configuration, mailman is told that localhost is equal to, in my case, vidiot.com/www.vidiot.com. After doing so more research tonight, even if I sent up the DNS bind configuration on my system, it won't help. I removed dns from the nsswitch.conf file and verified that the browser can't get anywhere. I then changed the hosts file to look like: 192.168.1.1 mrvideo vidiot.com www.… [View More]

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how to virtual domain
by Dony Tata July 18, 2008

July 18, 2008

how to configure virtual domain with tutorial in http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html, Here's an example. Say that Postfix is configured to handle the virtual domains dom1.ain, dom2.ain, and dom3.ain, and further that in your main.cf file you've got the following settings: myhostname = mail.dom1.ain mydomain = dom1.ain mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain virtual_alias_maps = hash:/some/path/to/virtual-dom1, … [View More]

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