Mailman 3 October 2009 - Mailman-Users

Can't post with thunderbird
by Johannes Wienke 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hi, I got a strange problem with a mailman mailing list hosted at kde.org. I'm registered at that list and also got access to the admin interface. The problem is that if I post a message with thunderbird it gets into the archive but isn't delivered to the subscribers of the list, including myself. This is independent of the smtp server or account I use for that list. If I post a message with any other mail client (gmx web interface, kmail) everything works as expected. Has anyone got an idea what could cause this problem? The admins of that list don't have a clue either. Here is the mail source code as it is sent by thunderbird: Message-ID: <xxxxxx(a)gmx.de> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:54:01 +0200 From: Johannes Wienke <xxxxxx(a)gmx.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: digiKam developers room - digiKam: Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-devel(a)kde.org> Subject: Magic Numbers X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, <more email contents> I already deactivated enigmail, switched to encoding us-ascii, removed format=flowed... Nothing helped. Thanks for any help in advance, Johannes

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Is there a way to allow messages from non-members to go to a list without any moderation?
by Deb Seidman 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hostgator uses mailman to provide mailing list features. So I used it to set up several lists and started playing with them. The problem is that I really am looking for the lists to work as a multiple destination alias (which hostgator doesn¹t appear to support) rather than a real list. I just want a simple way to have certain email address automatically route to several other emails at the same time. What I got instead is a situation where I will send out an email to the list only to get back a notification of the need to approve this email I just sent out. I have looked through a ton of documentation and so far haven¹t figured out how to turn this off. So I have two situations. 1) I want a closed list that needs to be moderated if a non-member posts to it I think I have figured out how to do this one) and 2) I want an open list where anyone can send to it just as if its a regular email - and I would control and approve any addition or deletions from that list (I haven¹t figured out how to do this yet). If anyone can point me to an old posting about accomplishing the automatically email routing of non-member email to a list without moderator intervention, please email me. Thanks Deb

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E-mail-based moderation
by Brian J Mingus 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

I have mailman set up such that I am aliased to the *-owner address and I receive an e-mail for every message sent to my moderated list. The subject of this e-mail is "Connectionists post from * requires approval." This e-mail has two forwarded messages embedded in it, one from the poster, and another that looks like this: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *-request To: Date: Subject: confirm e2a38902a4d73808769e0bd9e848a069010c3181 If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the reply. This almost allows me to moderate my list entirely from within Gmail. Gmail Labs contains a "Canned responses" feature that allows me to easily insert the Approved: password line into my reply. Unfortunately *-request isn't the address that sends me this e-mail, so I must change the address in my reply. The subject is also wrong so I must change that, rendering this solution ineffective. Ideally Mailman would send me this e-mail from *-request instead of *-owner, would continue to include the posters entire e-mail, and would use the confirm <hash> subject line, including accepting Re: confirm <hash> as a valid reply. I am not the sysadmin of the mail server, but if there is some simple way to configure mailman to behave in this way it would be highly desirable for me. My list has 5,000 subscribers and the mail server is extremely slow. Moderating from the mailman interface is tortuous for me, but having to jump through so many hoops in Gmail is just as bad. Many thanks :) /Brian

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Question on hostnames....
by Chris Thompson 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hey everyone! New user of mailman here and having a little trouble figuring out how to change the hostname that Mailman pulls for the urls and other stuff. For example, in emails from the list it references the hostname in the url like this: http://server1.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2 (those are not the real names of my server and domain. Just edited for security reasons. I'd like to change it to where it only reads this: http://example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/testlist2 Any suggestions? I've combed around and tried numerous things but nothing works. Thanks in advance! Chris

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Our mailman queue laws-ugs@ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us?
by Ian Peel 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Our mailman queue laws-ugs(a)ucl.ac.uk has stopped working, can you help us? Many thanks Ian -- Ian Peel IT and Web Administrator Faculty of Laws Bentham House Endsleigh Gardens London WC1H 0EG Tel: 0207 7679 5578 Internal Tel: 25578

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Maillist spam issue
by liuhao 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Dear Mailman, I am currently maintain the maillist for *ecfs.com.au*. we are now facing a issue that, some members want to unsubscribe from the mail list, and they just reply the mails we sent to them, meanwhile the email they replied went to every members' mail account on the list. How could we stop this? Thank you very much. Cheers! -- Darren, LIU HAO

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unsubscribe
by Emily IVA Samson Tepe 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hi All! I need to put an easy "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of the newsletter that goes to my mailing list. Where should I link it to? An email address, or to a web page? Thanks, Siren E

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Settings for list addresses
by Anne Anderson 09 Nov '09

09 Nov '09

Hello Mailman folks - We are running Mailman 2.1.9 on Linux SLES 10. The name of this server is mail.westmont.edu, so in mm_cfg.py we have these settings: DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' DEFAULT_NNTP_HOST = 'mail.westmont.edu' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'mail.westmont.edu' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mail.westmont.edu' This works fine for URLs to the administrative or user websites, but we get problems when people try to use the address links displayed on the website (i.e. on the listinfo page), because they show as ' listname(a)mail.westmont.edu'. Our email addresses have the form 'listname(a)westmont.edu'. Up until recently, an address like 'listname(a)mail.westmont.edu' would also work, because the mail was being received by the mail.westmont.edu server and it recognized either format. But we now have our mail hosted at Google Apps. Google has no problem delivering list mail as long as it doesn't have the "mail" in the address, but if a user tries to send a message by clicking on one of those links with "mail" in it, it gets bounced. So, I'm hoping there is a way to set up the list address links to show as ' listname(a)westmont.edu' instead of 'listname(a)mail.westmont.edu', and still keep the 'http://mail.westmont.edu/mailman/whatever' URLs. Is there a way to do this? Thanks. Anne -- Anne Anderson Web Application Developer / Database Manager Information Technology Westmont College

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Re: [Mailman-Users] regexp help
by Savoy, Jim 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

>CNulk writes: >Hi Jim, >I may be completely wrong (heck, wouldn't be the first time), but why >not have your "unique.name" address be an alias to a simple >bash/perl/etc. script which simply accepts the email message, rewrites >the message to be from the unique.name address, and sends it on to the >list. When the list sees the message, it will appear to be "from" >unique.name and the standard mailman moderation and message acceptance >rules would apply. I had to do something similar for a different email >distribution package to get around a software limitation. It should >work unless you really need the from address to be from the actual sender. Yep - I could do that. Have exim rewrite the headers before it sends out the message, but the people on the mailing list do want to know who the email originally came from. They just don't want everyone to have access to their mailing list, just this one account (an inquiries-type of account). I just re-read Mark's comments, and he says: ------- So assuming that what you want is to bypass the other header_filter_rules, you need to "add new item" before the current rule 1 so the new rule becomes #1. Then the new rule 1 regexp should be ^from:.*(\s|<)some\.person\.name(a)gmail\.com(\s|>|$) and the action Accept. ------- and that is exactly what I want to do - bypass the header_filter_rules. But I am afraid I don't quite understand this advice, Mark. How can I make this spam rule supercede other rules (like the one that says the list is moderated). There is no "add new item" button when you haven't got any spam rules. That only comes up when after I create me first rule, which is not superceding the moderation rule. I should probably not say anything else until Mark logs in. He's probably looking at this huge chain and wanting to crack our skulls together like Moe. - jim -

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fake Email
by Conrad Richter 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> A better way to do this would be to set up the MTA on Mailman's host >> to only deliver to the list address (ie, Mailman) if the sender has >> been authenticated (eg, with TLS). > > Or to use digital signatures for sender verification. This is not > something that Mailman currently supports. > > -Barry > I tried posting to the list several times now without success. I hope this this one finally gets through. Another way to deal with this is sender confirmation by email, where, like subscriber confirmation by email, a message is sent with a confirmation link. Mailman doesn't have this capability presently but it seems to me that since it already has subscriber confirmation, it should be possible to adapt that sender confirmation. This sender confirmation by email feature is available in L-Soft's LISTSERV, and it is an essential way to avoid fake email. In a post a few years ago Barry said that this feature was going to be in vers. 2.2, but that version never materialized. Will it be in vers. 3? -- \/\/\/ Conrad Richter /\/\/\ tibet(a)richters.org

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