Mailman 3 November 2009 - Mailman-Users

question about mailman issues i am experiencing
by inksanity＠inksanitytattoo.com Nov. 29, 2009

Nov. 29, 2009

Dear Mailman, I use your program ver 2.1.11 cp3 The abridged version of my issue is this: I have a subscriber list of over 2,000 people. When I send emails thru the mailman program, I'm never certain how many of those emails are actually successfully received by my list members, and how many simply never get there (due to spam filters & server restrictions). I believe my issue is due to sending out so many emails at one time (the full 2000). Is there ANY WAY to send emails out to a specific group of members on my list? For example, mailman alphabetizes list members by name. Is it not possible for me to send email to members A-C then wait a few hours and send D-F then wait a few hrs more and send to members G-I etc? Thank you so much for your assistance. Steve

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Re: [Mailman-Users] question about mailman issues i am experiencing
by Michael Scheidell Nov. 29, 2009

Nov. 29, 2009

One option would be to use your mta to rate limit it per destination domain. Then your mta can queue them up a few at a time. Other things you can do include make sure dns entries for your server are inplace and match. Spf records won't hurt. Also you might get the mta to do skim signing. Check reputation databases for your urls and up address. -----Original Message----- From: inksanity(a)inksanitytattoo.com <inksanity(a)inksanitytattoo.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:15 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org <mailman-users(a)python.org> Subject: [Mailman-Users] question about mailman issues i am experiencing Dear Mailman, I use your program ver 2.1.11 cp3 The abridged version of my issue is this: I have a subscriber list of over 2,000 people. When I send emails thru the mailman program, I'm never certain how many of those emails are actually successfully received by my list members, and how many simply never get there (due to spam filters & server restrictions). I believe my issue is due to sending out so many emails at one time (the full 2000). Is there ANY WAY to send emails out to a specific group of members on my list? For example, mailman alphabetizes list members by name. Is it not possible for me to send email to members A-C then wait a few hours and send D-F then wait a few hrs more and send to members G-I etc? Thank you so much for your assistance. Steve ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/scheidell%40secnap.net _________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.spammertrap.com _________________________________________________________________________

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Mailman 3.0 alpha 4
by Barry Warsaw Nov. 29, 2009

Nov. 29, 2009

I'm happy to announce the release of Mailman 3.0 alpha 4. Things are getting quite real now. It's pretty easy to hook Mailman up to Postfix for both incoming and outgoing mail[1] and you can create mailing lists and populate them with addresses. Currently, you must do this through the command line though. Please download the latest tarball or grab the bzr branch, and put it through some paces. Now is a good time to comment on the design and feature set for Mailman 3 as we are still in alpha. I'm still planning on releasing a first beta by the end of the year -- your testing, feedback, input, and contributions can help with that! You can download the tarball either from the Cheeseshop, or Launchpad: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailman/3.0.0a4 https://launchpad.net/mailman Please note: Mailman 3.0a4 is not production ready yet. Enjoy, -Barry

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Downgrade from Mailman 2.1.12 to 2.1.11
by Andrew Hodgson Nov. 29, 2009

Nov. 29, 2009

Hi, I am currently on a Ubuntu 9.04 system and want to migrate to a new host which is running Debian Lenny. Lenny has the Mailman 2.1.11 Debian package and the 9.04 host has 2.1.12. Will there be any issue of downgrading the mailing list data files? Thanks. Andrew.

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Email commands for list moderator
by Administrateur Nov. 28, 2009

Nov. 28, 2009

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm using Mailman and would like to share some administrative actions to the moderator. Actually I can't find in any documentation the way for the list moderator to set the 'moderate' flag to a list member. Somebody knows somethong about that possibility ? Sincerely - --------------------------------------- System Administrator Gregory DAVID administrateur(a)campusfm.fr http://www.campusfm.fr GPG : 0x4437F8A1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAksRBzoACgkQYPicgEQ3+KGOmACfU5r8puDnx7s7dNgN+0F3FDoc rRoAn2JBHfPzCc37+T76u9fg6pTv9ReP =Y4HD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Multiple List Pending Requests
by Rex Goode Nov. 28, 2009

Nov. 28, 2009

Hello, everyone. I'm new here. I operate several Mailman lists. I have lots of questions, but will start with the most pressing one. It is cumbersome, with so many lists, to go in to each list's page of pending administrative requests to see what is waiting for me to act upon. I just discovered withlist this morning. I think I can handle my shell for iterating through all of my lists. Is there some way, possibly with withlist, for me to get a list of pending requests for a list. I don't need a lot of information about them. Maybe even just a number of pending requests. The results of the query on all lists would go to me in an email. My users are getting annoyed when I get around to looking at their held messages and releasing them two weeks after they sent them. Maybe I'm just irresponsible, but it seems I should be able to know which lists have pending requests with just one click/cron/something. Rex

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Checking for Heartbeat
by Rex Goode Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

First, thanks to Mark Sapiro for the great reply on Multiple List Pending Requests. I host with jumpline.com, which generally does a good job with me. The Mailman installation is pretty good, but for some reason I can't track down, Mailman keeps going belly-up. Jumpline customer support doesn't know why. I have to stop it to turn off whatever qrunners are running and restart it. I don't mind doing that now and then. It doesn't happen that often. Here's the problem. My users don't think to tell me when they haven't had any mail from the list for awhile. I just go along thinking all is well until someone tells me, "Hey, Rex. We haven't had any email from the list for a week." I restart and old email mostly catches up. I have an administrative page for all of my web sites and the various things they do. I am on that page several times each day. I would like to generate some message when Mailman isn't working, something I would see there. A lot of the command line scripts seem to work even if Mailman is not running. What can I use to check to see if it is alive? Rex

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rejecting messages *to* non-members
by glen martin Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

Apologies if this is a FAQ ... yadda yadda ... searched wiki, list archive, FAQs, even the documentation :) I've got some rude users who occasionally cc non-list members on their messages to a restricted list that is actually intended to be private (membership by invitation only). Then, as you might expect, when the non-member replies, that message is rejected or held for approval. This doesn't seem friendly. The root cause, though, is my users. I'd therefore like to train them :) by rejecting their posts that copy non-members. A natural spot for such an option would seem to be in Recipient filters, but I don't see anything there, nor in the rest of the options for that matter. The mailing list discussions around non-members seem to have been dominated by discussion of messages from them, not to them. Is there such an option, to reject messages that are {to,cc} non-members? Or suggestions? Apologies again if this is obvious or a FAQ that I've somehow missed. thanks glen

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Archive Problem
by Jason L Nov. 27, 2009

Nov. 27, 2009

I just moved my mailman install to another machine it has the same machine name and the lists are working but the archiving is not. the archives/private folder is empty, and each email that is sent produces an error in the log. Nov 26 12:07:33 2009 (2374) Archive file access failure: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mto-scheduled.mbox/mto-scheduled.mbox [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mto-scheduled.mbox/mto-scheduled.mbox' Nov 26 12:07:33 2009 (2374) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mto-scheduled.mbox/mto-scheduled.mbox' How can I fix this? I've tried turning off the archives and back on but nothing works. I'm not worried about the old archive files I just want it to start archiving from this point forward. Regards,

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Taking a stab at Mailman on Mac OS X
by Bill Catambay Nov. 26, 2009

Nov. 26, 2009

Mailman v. 2.1.12 -> Mac OS 10.4.11 Tried to configure, and got the following results in config.log under Core Tests: configure:1714: checking for --with-python configure:1726: result: no configure:1733: checking for python configure:1751: found /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python configure:1764: result: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python configure:1774: checking Python interpreter configure:1792: result: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python configure:1796: checking Python version configure:1829: result: 2.6.4 configure:1833: checking Python's email package configure:1866: result: ok configure:1872: checking that Python has a working distutils configure:1921: result: yes configure:1969: checking for a BSD-compatible install configure:2025: result: /usr/bin/install -c configure:2036: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:2061: result: no configure:2068: checking for true configure:2087: found /usr/bin/true configure:2100: result: /usr/bin/true configure:2110: checking for --without-gcc configure:2128: result: no configure:2189: checking for gcc configure:2219: result: no configure:2286: checking for cc configure:2333: result: no configure:2389: checking for cl.exe configure:2419: result: no configure:2448: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH I didn't get very far. I thought Mailman only required Python? Is there anyone on this list who has successfully got Mailman running on Mac OS?

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