Mailman 3 February 2009 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving a List
by Jeff Bernier 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Mark, I moved my list following instructions you posted to me on 30 Jan. After the move, I attempted to log in as list admin, and received the following: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.9 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. Do I need to restart services or something? Jeff >>> On 1/30/2009 at 11:47 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: Jeff Bernier wrote: >I am retiring an older system running Mailman, and I would like to move one of its lists to our shiny new server. I have seen instructions posted for moving all lists from one system to another, but I want to move just one list to the new server already running other lists. > >Can someone tell me how this is done? I have no real experience working with Mailman... so go easy on me. To move a Mailman 2.1.x list from ones server to another running the same or later Mailman, move the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck file to the new server. Create the lists/LISTNAME/ directory with the same ownership and permissions as the other lists/* directories. Run bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME to fix the host_name and web_page_url of the list for the new server. Move the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file from the old server. Create the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/ directory with the same ownership and permissions as the other archives/private/*.mbox/ directories. Run bin/.arch --wipe LISTNAME to build the pipermail archive. This assumes you have no held messages or pending requests for the list on the old server. If you do have these, it is best to deal with them on the old server before moving. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving a List
by Jeff Bernier 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Mark and others, Thank you very much for your help with this. I have just one more question... The source Mailman for my list to be moved is version 2.1.5. The destination Mailman is version 2.1.9. Is there anything I need to take into consideration with my move? -Jeff >>> On 1/30/2009 at 11:47 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: Jeff Bernier wrote: >I am retiring an older system running Mailman, and I would like to move one of its lists to our shiny new server. I have seen instructions posted for moving all lists from one system to another, but I want to move just one list to the new server already running other lists. > >Can someone tell me how this is done? I have no real experience working with Mailman... so go easy on me. To move a Mailman 2.1.x list from ones server to another running the same or later Mailman, move the lists/LISTNAME/config.pck file to the new server. Create the lists/LISTNAME/ directory with the same ownership and permissions as the other lists/* directories. Run bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LISTNAME to fix the host_name and web_page_url of the list for the new server. Move the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file from the old server. Create the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/ directory with the same ownership and permissions as the other archives/private/*.mbox/ directories. Run bin/.arch --wipe LISTNAME to build the pipermail archive. This assumes you have no held messages or pending requests for the list on the old server. If you do have these, it is best to deal with them on the old server before moving. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Need Help
by niel mc 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hello Good Evening I need help on my Mailman server. My Mailman server is operational and I am using it. Then I created another Mailman server of a separate computer, so that makes I have 2 Mailman servers. I need to migrate the mailing list of my old Mailman server to my new Mailman server. Question#1: Is it possible to merge or sync the Mailman mailing list from my old Mailman server to my new one? Question#2: If yes, what process or commands that i should execute in order to do this? Question#3: Would it be possible that there will be no Mailman interruptions with merge or sync my Mailing list from my old Mailman server to new one? I will appreciate any help that I can get from you guys. Thanks, Niel

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mailman mod list
by Jim McIver 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

I'm a newbie and have just had mailman 2.1 running on Freebsd with postfix for a couple of days. I've found a mod.py that will show users in a list that have the moderator bit set. # mod.py from Mailman import mm_cfg import sys def mod(list): for member in list.getMembers(): if list.getMemberOption(member, mm_cfg.Moderate): print member, "is moderated" How can I modify this to show users "don't" have the moderator bit set? Search FAQ...no luck. Regards, -jm

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Disallowing Posts
by Tim Ferguson 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Although I could quite possibly overlooked it, is there a way to make a list to where only one person, say the moderator(s), list admin or site admin and post anything to the list? We like to set up a list for parents to sign up for to receive special notices from school but that they can not reply to OR actually send posts to themselves? Seems as though I've located an option pretty well for everything else except a "receive-only" mode, but then I'm known to not be able to see the trees for the forest, etc. Thanks! Tim Tim Ferguson Director of Technology Centralia City Schools Centralia, Illinois 62801 618-532-1907, Ext. 1030

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Commercial support?
by Naz 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

I want to set up a mailman site, but I already have a fairly complex mail system with one machine handling multiple domains. I am finding it a little difficult, as I don't have a huge amount of experience with email system admin in general, so would like to ask if anyone knows of a company offering commercial mailman support. Alternatively, are there any members of the community with experience in this who would like a little extra work on the side. We don't need a huge amount done, basically just setting up a standard set of mailing lists, and providing a bit of hand holding. Ordinarily, I don't mind RTFMing, but I don't have the time to take off and familiarise myself with all the ins and outs of this. Regards, - Naz. -- السلام عليكم Web: www.mrnaz.com Ph: +61 400 460 662

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Mailman crash during global address change
by Allan Hansen 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Dear list developers, A crash happened when a subscriber attempted to change his address with 'Apply Globaly' check box set. His subscriptions before the crash was: List1: old(a)address.com List2: new(a)address.com The crash happened the moment he attempted to confirm the change on the given web page. He was trying to change the address for List1 from old(a)address.com to new(a)address.com. I had him do the same thing again both with and without setting the 'Apply Globally' box. When the check was set, the crash happened again. When he did not check it, the address change did happen without a crash. How it possibly can get to this error is beyond me. His new address did not appear in List1 and his old address did not appear in List2 (I checked before I asked him to repeat). I've detected no adverse effects from this crash, so this message is for your information only. I searched the archives for MMAlreadyAMember, but did not find anything useful. Thanks, Allan Setup: Mailman 2.1.9 on Intel iMac 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo with OS X Server 10.5.6 Traceback: Feb 01 12:01:43 2009 admin(14357): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(14357): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(14357): [----- Traceback ------] admin(14357): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(14357): File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(14357): main() admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 138, in main admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 521, in addrchange_confirm admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1217, in ProcessConfirmation admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1150, in ApprovedChangeMemberAddress admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 251, in changeMemberAddress admin(14357): File "/BinaryCache/mailman/mailman-126.1~4/Root/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/OldStyleMemberships.py", line 175, in addNewMember admin(14357): MMAlreadyAMember: new(a)address.com admin(14357): [----- Python Information -----] admin(14357): sys.version = 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 15 2008, 22:57:26) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] admin(14357): sys.executable = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python admin(14357): sys.prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5 admin(14357): sys.exec_prefix = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5 admin(14357): sys.path = /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5 admin(14357): sys.platform = darwin Allan -- Allan Hansen P.O Box 2423 Cypress, CA 90630 U.S.A. hansen(a)rc.org +1-714-875-8870

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Mailman url points to localhost after ProxyPass
by Jason Dixon 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

To help Mailman work within the default OpenBSD httpd chroot, I have requests for /mailman/ doing a ProxyPass to apache2 running on localhost. This works great for everything except url's like /admin/ and /listinfo/. Everything below this works fine (e.g. /admin/foo). So if I load http://www.dixongroup.net/mailman/admin/, it gives me results for lists on 127.0.0.1 instead of the hostname. But all of the lists themselves work fine. And list_lists reports everything correctly as you'd expect. Has anyone overcome this? Obviously, the desired effect would be that Mailman uses HTTP_HOST. I've messed around with UseCanonicalName on both Apache instances but could not get the desired effect. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Jason Dixon DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net/

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I'm getting all password reminder bounces
by Kirk Strauser 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

I'm using Mailman 2.1.11 with Postfix 2.5.6 on FreeBSD 7.1. Each month (roughly since upgrading from 2.1.10), I've been getting all of the monthly password reminder bounce messages in my own inbox. I've set VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes in mm_cfg.py, and confirmed that the bounces are coming into Mailman and then being re-sent to me. Example headers: Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C663BABC for <kirk(a)strauser.com>; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:07:14 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: mailman-bounces+andrew.may=rcp.co.uk(a)kanga.honeypot.net Delivered-To: mailman-bounces+andrew.may=rcp.co.uk(a)kanga.honeypot.net Received: by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) id 485F23BABB; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:07:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:07:13 -0600 (CST) From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)kanga.honeypot.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: mailman-bounces+foo=example.com(a)kanga.honeypot.net At this point, I really don't know what else to look at. I don't have so many users that I can't manually unsubscribe them, but I'd *much* prefer to let Mailman handle it. What debugging or config or other information can I provide? -- Kirk Strauser

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Authorization problem
by Tim Ferguson 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

I've just set up our first Mailman and when trying to create a new mailing list, other than the initial list, I'm receiving the message: Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists I'm stumped as the only password I've entered so far is the site administrator's password. Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tim

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