Mailman 3 February 2009 - Mailman-Users

Patch for use of Postfix VERP support
by Jesper Dybdal 16 May '09

16 May '09

I've just installed Mailman version 2.1.11. I was surprised to find that the standard distribution had no support for the Postfix VERP feature, which can create VERP return paths much more efficiently than when Mailman does it itself. I did find a patch for the FreeBSD port of an earlier Mailman version (at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2007-October/128777.h…), and changed it to match the standard 2.1.11 distribution. It seems to work fine. If anybody should be interested, I've placed the modified patch, directly usable for 2.1.11, at http://www.dybdal.dk/mailman-2.1.11-postfix-verp.patch Note that even with the patch, this feature is disabled by default; it is turned on by setting VERP_STYLE = 'Postfix'. It also needs to be allowed explicitly in the Postfix configuration (e.g., "smtpd_authorized_verp_clients=127.0.0.0/8"). I have tested the patch only with the feature turned on. -- Jesper Dybdal, Denmark. http://www.dybdal.dk (in Danish).

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Tricky admin_immed_notify problem
by george bannerman 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Hi all-- I've got a tricky problem on my mailman server. Right now, I have admin_immed_notify set to yes, but I'm not getting notifications when there are emails to approve. I'm also not getting the once-a-day "# list moderator request(s) waiting" either. "Forward messages (individually) to:" doesn't work. They all mysteriously stopped last Friday. I'm running Exim version 4.50 #1, Mailman 2.1.5, Python 2.3.5, and Linux version 2.6.16.13-xenU (Red Hat 4.0.2-8 running on Xen). I rebooted the server ("have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?") and the restarted the exim daemon and ran check_perms, to no avail. I can email listname-owner (and it goes through), I can send email from the server, and list emails go out to the lists just fine. It only appears to be the administrator notifications and the forward messages individually to that are affected. I looked at FAQ 4.73: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.73+How+do+I+debug+smtp-failure+problems+… I can telnet into my SMTP port and send mail. I looked at the MTA logs and they seem fine. (They're below.) I'm not running Python 2.4, so I can't do the error log trick I looked at FAQ 6.14: http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030722 I don't get any errors when I run the two python scripts interactively as the mailman user. Here's what I'm getting in /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp-failure: Feb 25 13:54:52 2009 (1052) delivery to administrator(a)example.com failed with code -1: Connection unexpectedly closed Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: <msgid(a)list.example.com> Feb 25 14:32:49 2009 (1052) delivery to administrator(a)example.com failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused') Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: <msgid(a)www.example.org> Feb 25 14:34:02 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: please run connect() first, msgid: <msgid(a)www.example.org> -- Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection refused'), msgid: <msgid(a)list.example.com> Feb 25 14:35:55 2009 (1052) delivery to administrator(a)example.com failed with code -1: (111, 'Connection refused') Here's what's in /var/log/exim4/mainlog: 2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek => administrator(a)example.comR=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H= ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8] 2009-02-25 17:17:10 1LcS3p-0003iA-Ek Completed 2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj => administrator(a)example.comR=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H= ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com [209.85.217.8] 2009-02-25 17:17:24 1LcS46-0003iH-Cj Completed (These are for a different message, but are representative.) There doesn't seem to be anything in rejectlog. I've tried changing the list administrator to a different email address by a different provider, but that doesn't seem to change anything. Help? Best, george

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password sends
by Michael Welch 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

What is supposed to happen when a non-listmember tries to get a password reminder from the member options page? I tried it myself after trying to figure out if a member was using the wrong email address, and the web page said, "A reminder of your password has been emailed to you." But nothing ever arrived. I tried this with two different non-subscribed addresses that do not have spam filters on them. I do not have access to logs to answer more questions, this is a DreamHost implementation. I also discovered that one of my four lists doesn't even send out the passwords to subscribed members after saying the reminders were sent. I tried this on my own subscribed name and it failed. If folks can tell me what might be wrong here as well, I will pass it on to DreamHost tech support which has been quite responsive in the past. Version 2.1.11 - - - - - - - - - - - - Michael Welch, volunteer Redwood Alliance PO Box 293 Arcata, CA 95518 707-822-7884 mwelch(a)redwoodalliance.org www.redwoodalliance.org

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Extract list members from unaccessible domain
by Singbartl, Thomas 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

Hi there, due to my own stupidity I lost my domain as it expired and someone else grabbed it immediately. I have one particular mailing list, that I want to recover and move it to my new domain. I only need email adresses. I already contacted my provider who hosts mailman, but with no backend access for me. They send me the zipped folder of that list, which is pretty useless. I read 3.62. How do I extract a list of my list's members (subscribers)? of the FAQ, but this only works if the domain still exists. What do I have to tell my provider to send me to get the e-mail adresses (the list still exists and is configured on their server). Appreciate any help! Thanks, Thomas ________________________________ Thomas Singbartl IT Manager Bavarian International School e.V. A Community of Learners Hauptstr. 1 - 85778 Haimhausen - Germany Phone: +49 (0)8133 917 -132 | Fax: +49 (0)8133 917 -279 t.singbartl(a)bis-school.com | www.bis-school.com <http://www.bis-school.com/> Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts München VR13209

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one list not sending to members
by Anne M. Hammond 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

I recently created a list with 20 members, but the list is not sending out to the members. Other lists on this server are working fine. This is mailman 2.1.9. I stopped OutgoingRunner with SIGTERM, sent a post and posted a message to the list, and dumped the database; [root@ice httpd]# /usr/lib/mailman/bin/dumpdb /var/lib/mailman/lists/extremeintegration/pending.pck [----- start pickle file -----] <----- start object 1 -----> { '01a907bef54583bc21f0e71251a6c9d4487b9b84': ('H', 1), '46199d354ea07e1ae152d9351a2b2d0426011528': ('H', 3), 'e57f046e3de424b7f2baf780da63e1f1a1d08880': ('H', 2), 'evictions': { '01a907bef54583bc21f0e71251a6c9d4487b9b84': 1235939067.2983739, '46199d354ea07e1ae152d9351a2b2d0426011528': 1235950453.2800391, 'e57f046e3de424b7f2baf780da63e1f1a1d08880': 1235947591.233825}, 'version': 2} [----- end pickle file -----] So I don't see anything here that is pending. The list is not moderated. All email should be sent automatically to the 20 members.

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Why host_name and not domain?
by Oliver Glueck 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

Hello, why I get as a subscriber a hostname and not an right email address? I think, it is not good to answer with e.g. "Willkommen auf der Mailingliste %(real_name)s@%(host_name)s!" Why host_name??? host_name is not the domain! host_name is only the FQDN of the Server, but no domain. This welcome email to the subscriber is going out of our LAN and the subscriber see the internal server name of mailman!! And a mailing list isn't a 'name -at- Servername' but 'name -at- domain' !! Not: name(a)mail.intern.company.de Right: name(a)company.com !! How can I configure mailman??? I need help. Thanks a lot, Oliver

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Mailman 2.1.12 final released.
by Mark Sapiro 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am happy to announce the final release of Mailman 2.1.12. Since 2.1.12rc2 there have been a few bug fixes, the Polish translation has been updated and a couple of items have been added to the contrib directory. Mailman 2.1.12 is a minor bug fix and Python 2.6 compatibility release. The minimum Python for this release is Python 2.4 and it is compatible with Python through 2.6. The previous Mailman releases are not compatible with Python 2.6. See the release notes at <https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=653108&group_id=103> for more details. Mailman is free software for managing email mailing lists and e-newsletters. Mailman is used for all the python.org and SourceForge.net mailing lists, as well as at hundreds of other sites. For more information, including download links, please see: http://www.list.org http://mailman.sf.net http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman - -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJozBSVVuXXpU7hpMRAgBNAJ0SNpRHqlmRCHcW0L7f/Gxw+7Ro/QCgrfoA qMml0XJorulAaRiCi03e7OY= =fTrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Bug in Mailman error on ListInfo Page
by J.R. Constance 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi, I have suddenly begun getting an error on the ListInfo page for all of my Mailman mailing lists. This is fairly recent. The lists function normally (as in, emails sent to the list address are sent to the subscribers) but nobody can subscribe through the listinfo page. Yes, I know this is version 2.1.11.cp3 and I will probably end up having to ask over in the CPanel forums but I am hoping that someone (Mark) can give me a clue from the traceback below what direction I should go to start figuring this out so when I do go to Cpanel I have somewhere to start. Thanks, J.R. J.R. Constance Rodric Consulting, LLC jrc(a)rodricon.com Phone: 720.339.3646 Feb 19 09:51:10 2009 admin(10019): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(10019): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.11.cp3 -----] admin(10019): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10019): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/scripts/ driver", line 101, in run_main admin(10019): main() admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/ subscribe.py", line 96, in main admin(10019): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata, language) admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/ subscribe.py", line 176, in process_form admin(10019): mlist.AddMember(userdesc, remote) admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/ MailList.py", line 894, in AddMember admin(10019): cookie = self.pend_new(Pending.SUBSCRIPTION, userdesc) admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/ Pending.py", line 65, in pend_new admin(10019): db = self.__load() admin(10019): File "/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/Mailman/ Pending.py", line 95, in __load admin(10019): return cPickle.load(fp) admin(10019): EOFError admin(10019): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10019): sys.version = 2.4.3 (#1, Oct 26 2006, 22:27:18) [GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] admin(10019): sys.executable = /usr/local/bin/python2.4 admin(10019): sys.prefix = /usr/local admin(10019): sys.exec_prefix = /usr/local admin(10019): sys.path = /usr/local admin(10019): sys.platform = linux2 admin(10019): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10019): HTTP_REFERER: http://ascls-lists.org/mailman/listinfo/listname_ascls-lists.org admin(10019): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.0.63 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.63 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/ 5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.5 admin(10019): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/subscribe admin(10019): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.0.63 (Unix) mod_ssl/ 2.0.63 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.5 Server at ascls-lists.org Port 80</ address> admin(10019): admin(10019): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10019): HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 admin(10019): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10019): QUERY_STRING: admin(10019): CONTENT_LENGTH: 94 admin(10019): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 admin(10019): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 Mnenhy/ 0.7.4.666 admin(10019): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(10019): SERVER_NAME: ascls-lists.org admin(10019): REMOTE_ADDR: 65.89.84.2 admin(10019): PATH_TRANSLATED: /home/ascls-li/public_html/ listname_ascls-lists.org admin(10019): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10019): SERVER_ADDR: 72.249.28.134 admin(10019): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/ascls-li/public_html admin(10019): PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman admin(10019): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/cgi- bin/subscribe admin(10019): SERVER_ADMIN: webmaster(a)ascls-lists.org admin(10019): HTTP_HOST: ascls-lists.org admin(10019): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/subscribe/listname_ascls-lists.org admin(10019): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml +xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(10019): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10019): REMOTE_PORT: 6338 admin(10019): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(10019): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10019): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate admin(10019): PATH_INFO: /listname_ascls-lists.org

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Pain, seeking Mailman/Postfix wisdom
by John Jackson 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi All: Me: Solaris 10 Postfix 2.4.6 Mailman 2.1.12rc2 Python 2.4.4 postfix-to-mailman-2.1.py I have: (2) domain names for the same host, of the form: namexxx.department.domain.tld (has an A and MX record) nameyyy.department.domain.tld (has a CNAME and MX record) What I originally hoped for was to host some Mailman lists on my server and still have a handful of user accounts on the server be able to receive email directly. Both the lists and the local users would have the same email address after the @, like so: listone(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld listtwo(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld userone(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld usertwo(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld After studying things for a while it seemed clear that maybe Mailman is not supposed to do that, and that I'd need to add a level to the domain name for Mailman to take over for it's lists, like this? listone(a)lists.namexxx.department.domain.tld ^^^^^ userone(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld usertwo(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld But... ..adding that additional level ('lists') puts me at five levels. I'm trying to keep things as simple looking as can for my users. So, I thought what I could do instead is create a second host name for Mailman to use, like this: listone(a)nameyyy.department.domain.tld listtwo(a)nameyyy.department.domain.tld userone(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld usertwo(a)namexxx.department.domain.tld My 'pain' is coming from frustration and confusion trying to learn Postfix and Mailman well enough to figure out whether I can do any of this or not. I've been mucking around in the configs of both and trying to follow examples and suggestions in the documentation and from information found by sifting through them Internets with Google ;) Do any of you have a take on it you would be kind enough to share with me? Thanks very much, for any/all help or advice, comments, etc. -John _________________________________________________________________________ Home: 413-549-7524 Work: 413-545-4326 Cell: 413-530-5445 Amherst, MA Email: johnj(a)external.umass.edu Web: http://www.umass.edu/rso/outingclub

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mailman installation and domains - confused
by Oliver Glueck 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hello, at first: sorry for my bad English, German is my preferred language and I'm not a Linux guru. I'm not sure about my malman installation. I will show at first some facts: - LAN: our LAN domain is "intern.company.de" - the mail server in the LAN: mail.intern.company.de - on mail.intern.company.de is running open xchange on an UCS (unvention corporate server, a debian) - our external domain is: company.com -> an email address is <name>@company.com and ..(a)company.de on the same server. - the internal open xchange has so three mail domains : intern.company.de, company.com and company.de - fetchmail is polling the emails from the external mail server - mailman is installed on the open xchange server 'mail.intern.company.de' My first mailing list is (after mailman) 'about-dummy'. And /etc/postfix/virtual contains: about-dummy(a)company.com about-dummy about-dummy(a)company.de about-dummy about-dummy(a)intern.company.de about-dummy My first try to receive an email from an external address to this list is failed, because I have to add 'about-dummy@localhost' in virtual. After this entry, the email was received. But why ..@localhost? I saw this in the log file, unknown mailbox about-dummy@localhost. For mailman I have no Idea about virtual_alias or virtual domains. Only these two lines IMAGE_LOGOS = '/icons/' MTA = 'Postfix' I have added to mm_cfg.py. Is this ok? And in postfix? Here a short cutout from main.cf: ---snip--- myhostname = mail.intern.company.de mydomain = intern.company.de myorigin = /etc/mailname smtp_helo_name = mail.intern.company.de append_dot_mydomain = no masquerade_domains = $mydomain masquerade_exceptions = root transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport, ldap:ldaptransport mydestination = $myhostname.$mydomain, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain, localhost, $transport_maps mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 relay_domains = $mydestination relayhost = www.company.de canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical virtual_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual, ldap:ldapgroups, ldap:ldapdistlist, ldap:ldapvirtual, ldap:ldapsharedfolderlocal relocated_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relocated alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/usr/local/mailman/data/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases ---snap--- and many LDAP entries from the open xchange installation. Is main.cf ok? I'm not sure. How looks the right configuration files? Many thanks and greeting Oliver from Germany

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