Mailman 3 March 2009 - Mailman-Users

please remove from list
by The League CA Cities March 30, 2009

March 30, 2009

hello please remove this email address from the list. thank you Doug

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some messages missing from archive
by David Newman March 30, 2009

March 30, 2009

Mailman 2.1.10 on OpenBSD 4.4 with Postfix 2.5.3 Checked the FAQ and searched Google but didn't see anything that directly addressed this: Most messages make it into the archives but a few do not. I've pasted below a sample of a message that didn't make it to the archive. I suspect that it might be related to Postfix's message handling but am not sure what's missing from the offending messages. Thanks in advance for clues on debugging this. dn ((addresses, domains and IP addresses anonymized)) Return-Path: <user(a)example.com> X-Original-To: myname(a)mydomain.tld Delivered-To: myname(a)mydomain.tld Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mydomain.tld (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F15B3159 for <myname(a)mydomain.tld>; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:16:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.671 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.671 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.mydomain.tld ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kkMkBnOO63bs for <myname(a)mydomain.tld>; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.otherdomain.net (blackhelicopters.otherdomain.net [666.1.2.3]) by mail.mydomain.tld (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDC15B3157 for <myname(a)mydomain.tld>; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from elvis.example.net (dsl1-2-3.yetanotherdomain.net [1.2.3.666]) (Authenticated sender: someuser(a)example.com) by mx.otherdomain.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A02D196841 for <myname(a)mydomain.tld>; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:16:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <23A25183-7F35-4D19-B528-53C0A6D4F73B(a)example.com> From: someuser example <someuser(a)example.com> To: myname <myname(a)mydomain.tld> In-Reply-To: <4969A68C.8000900(a)mydomain.tld> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: [myname members] Message size limits (was: (no subject)) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:16:17 -0800 References: <0089FC87E3644D2895590076717851F9@Wizardry> <52F0A1B1F834C54DB1C0CF32182D6E9B03D7B307(a)sagan.aperio.int> <4969A68C.8000900(a)mydomain.tld> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) On Jan 10, 2009, at 11:58 AM, myname wrote: > With due respect, I think it's a lousy idea +1 -someuser

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Archives and International Character Sets (Mailman 2.1.11)
by Drew Tenenholz March 29, 2009

March 29, 2009

Guys -- I have a problem with the monthly archives from Mailman 2.1.11 (using Pipermail 0.09 [default]) and wonder if there is any help available. I've read several FAQs, but no luck in understanding the problem yet. The list is a announce-only type in Russian (Cyrillic), but the default language is set to English (so I can read the admin pages and complete the necessary tasks). As I believe Mark mentioned before, this means that the messages themselves (sent by the Russian Moderator team using Outlook Express or webmail and either windows-1251 or KOI8-R encondings) arrive at Mailman and are distributed in email as with their original encodings. However, the mailman archive in this configuration seems to save the messages as HTML entity codes which display fine in the Mailman archive as single messages, but are unreadable once they get to the monthly archive (all "?????"). 1) What can be done to get the monthly archive in a readable format? 2) Is there any way to correct the existing monthly archives? Thanks in Advance (and have a good weekend), Drew Tenenholz

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strange problem, list prefix suddenly stopped being inserted
by Ricardo Kleemann March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

Hi, I have a number of lists running and they worked fine with the subject prefix for each list. Suddenly all the distributed messages are no longer showing the subject prefix and I don't understand what could be causing this. I'm not sure how to debug it, I don't see any evident errors and the only issue I see is related to the subject. Thanks Ricardo

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admindb just ending with premature end of script, no error message
by Ulf Zimmermann March 28, 2009

March 28, 2009

Our mailman/data directory has a bunch of heldmsg- files. One of the lists has over 5,000 currently. Whenever we try to access "Tend to pending administration requests" it never returns. Apache error log shows just: [Thu Mar 26 01:17:25 2009] [error] [client 172.18.42.241] Premature end of script headers: admindb, referer: http://XXXXXX/mailman/admin/XXXX/privacy/sender An strace of the python scripts/driver admindb shows it first scanning all the messages in data/heldmsg-* (gettimeofday, stat64, write and unlink, mmap2) followed by a whole lot of just mmap calls (mmap2 and munmap). It finally gets a SIGTERM and closes out with: munmap(0x9eadc000, 9416704) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 9424896, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x9d8e3000 munmap(0x9e1e0000, 9420800) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 9428992, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x9cfe5000 --- SIGTERM (Terminated) @ 0 (0) --- rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, NULL, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xdf2898}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xc37898}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, NULL, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xc37898}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xdf2898}, NULL, 8) = 0 sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) gettimeofday({1238052580, 873374}, NULL) = 0 utimes("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0", {1238070580, 873373}) = 0 stat64("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=47, ...}) = 0 open("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 5 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=47, ...}) = 0 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=47, ...}) = 0 _llseek(5, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=47, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x9cfe4000 _llseek(5, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR) = 0 read(5, "/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml."..., 4096) = 47 read(5, "", 4096) = 0 close(5) = 0 munmap(0x9cfe4000, 4096) = 0 unlink("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock") = 0 unlink("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0") = 0 munmap(0x9cfe5000, 9428992) = 0 gettimeofday({1238052580, 901556}, NULL) = 0 utimes("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0", {1238070580, 901556}) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock", 0xbff59360) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) unlink("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) munmap(0x9d8e3000, 9424896) = 0 close(3) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, NULL, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xdf2898}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, NULL, {0x19b68a, [], SA_RESTORER, 0xdf2898}, 8) = 0 rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 munmap(0xb71d5000, 397312) = 0 gettimeofday({1238052581, 296099}, NULL) = 0 utimes("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0", {1238070581, 296098}) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock", 0xbff59350) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) unlink("/var/lock/mailman/XXXX.lock.ml.autc.com.4472.0") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) close(4) = 0 brk(0x9401000) = 0x9401000 futex(0x809c740, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x809a248, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x80935b0, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x808c198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x808c198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 futex(0x808c198, FUTEX_WAKE, 1) = 0 exit_group(0) = ? I have tried to move all the heldmsg- away for this list, but even then it never comes back. Anyone have an idea how to fix this? System is RedHat EL4 with 2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.3, which isn't the latest but still.

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Strange bounce removal issue
by Brian Carpenter March 26, 2009

March 26, 2009

Hey Mailman Users, I have a strange issue affecting a client's mailing list. It seems the mailman server is repeatedly removing an e-mail address due to excessive bounces. I see this in the subscribe log file: Mar 22 20:38:04 2009 (26386) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 20:38:04 2009 (26386) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 20:53:06 2009 (24019) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 20:53:06 2009 (24019) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 21:08:08 2009 (29528) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 21:08:08 2009 (29528) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 21:23:10 2009 (1713) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 21:23:10 2009 (1713) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 21:38:11 2009 (5212) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 21:38:11 2009 (5212) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 21:53:13 2009 (7199) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address Mar 22 21:53:13 2009 (7199) listname_list.domain.com: email(a)verizon.net auto-unsubscribed [reason: BYBOUNCE] Mar 22 22:08:14 2009 (10748) listname_list.domain.com: deleted email(a)verizon.net; disabled address These entries actually go on for about 3 days, and seem to occur in the late evening/ early morning hours. Since the administrator of the list is notified when a member is removed due to bounces, he keeps receiving repeated notices regarding the same e-mail address. This issue does effect different e-mail address but the same list and it is very random. I have not received any reports from my other clients, just this particular one. I really could use some assistance in troubleshooting this. Thanks! Regards, Brian -------------------------------------- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - "Curious comments from a web hosting techie"

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Subscribers Receiving Multiple Emails
by Nyrobi Collins March 26, 2009

March 26, 2009

We are having an issue with subscribers receiving three of the same emails every time I send an email. It doesn't happen to every subscriber, but those who get multiples always get three. Any suggestions for how to eliminate this?

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Message footers as "inline attachment"
by Web Witchcraft March 26, 2009

March 26, 2009

A few months back our mailman listserv started showing up with an occasional short message sent out to the list members who receive individual messages that had the usual message footers attached as an "inline attachment" rather than including it in the body of the message. It went on this way for months with only an occasional rare message showing the footers as an inline attachment but it gradually got worse until NOW someone complained about it and when I started looking I realized that 9 out of 10 of our messages now show the footers as an attachment to the message email rather than being in the body of the email. The odd thing is that it happens for MOST users but some members seem to be immune to the issue. A scan through my two message private archives for this list shows that some list members don't seem to EVER have the problem while MOST list members do... I'm completely baffled here. For the LIFE of me I can't figure out what would cause this to happen. Yet it clearly IS happening. Can anyone here offer a suggestion as to what the cause of this strange behavior may be and how to correct it? Thanks!

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Subscribe confirmation message not send
by Hung Phan March 26, 2009

March 26, 2009

Hi all, Got an outstanding issue with Mailman 2.1.9 included with Apple Leopard server 10.5.6: suddenly the subscribe confirmation messages never send out anymore. Here is a little cut & paste out of the error log: Mar 23 22:46:23 2009 admin(6944): /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/ MailList.py:907: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated raise Errors.MMSubscribeNeedsConfirmation Mar 24 15:49:45 2009 admin(4503): /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/ MailList.py:907: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated raise Errors.MMSubscribeNeedsConfirmation Here is the qrunner log: Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (192) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (190) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (189) CommandRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (186) ArchRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (194) RetryRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (187) BounceRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (191) NewsRunner qrunner started. Mar 23 22:59:44 2009 (193) VirginRunner qrunner started. Here is the subscribe log: Mar 23 16:54:51 2009 (5065) school1_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canbysd.org > Mar 23 16:56:23 2009 (5112) school2_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canbysd.org > Mar 23 16:57:22 2009 (5133) school2_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canbysd.org > Mar 23 16:59:52 2009 (5175) school2_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canbysd.org > Mar 23 17:02:25 2009 (5238) school3_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canbysd.org > Mar 24 15:49:45 2009 (4503) school4_parents: pending Hung Phan <phanh(a)canby.org > Here is a portion of vette log: Mar 23 16:52:28 2009 (5008) school1: held subscription request from phanh(a)canbysd.org Mar 23 17:00:26 2009 (5197) school3: held subscription request from phanh(a)canbysd.org Seems like everything is posted at the correct log but no confirmation message is sent out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

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Removing Archived items from a list
by Jeff Bernier March 25, 2009

March 25, 2009

Hello, What is the easiest was to selectively remove archived messages from a list? I don't want to purge it completely, just remove some items. Thanks, Jeff

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