Mailman 3 August 2009 - Mailman-Users

Template Question
by Jeff Grossman 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

I am moving my Mailman 2.1.12 installation from an old Mac OS X box to a freshly installed Debian stable machine. I am running Mailman 2.1.12 from testing. I copied over my lists directory and seem to have a problem with the templates. I have some customized templates in the en directory of each mailing list in the lists directory. Mailman does not seem to be using those customized templates, but using the generic ones. I thought the ones in each mailing list directory was always the first used? Or is it something with the way Debian setups up Mailman? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff

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Bounces not resetting...
by John Withers 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

Folks, I have a problem in that user's bounces aren't resetting. The bounce_info_stale after value seems to be being ignored. I have users who's last bounce was in 2005 and we have sent literally thousands of emails to them since then. Th bounce_info_stale_after value is 7. But they are still showing 10 bounces from 2005 and prior. Could anyone tell me why this would happen and how I might be able to prevent it in the future? -John Withers

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Installing Mailman Fails
by Rich Shepard 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

I want to install Mailman here to replace majordomo for a few mail lists. My system includes postfix-2.5.2 and httpd-2.2.12, as well as the latest Mailman version downloaded at the end of last week. With the source in /usr/local/mailman I ran './configure --with-mail-gid=postdrop --with-cgi-gid=apache' followed by 'make'. However, when I tried 'make install' (as root) I get this: ... /bin/ginstall: ./test_membership.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_membership.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./test_message.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_message.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./test_runners.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_runners.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./test_safedict.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_safedict.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./test_security_mgr.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_security_mgr.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./test_smtp.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/test_smtp.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./testall.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/testall.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./EmailBase.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/EmailBase.py' are the same file /bin/ginstall: ./TestBase.py' and /usr/local/mailman/tests/TestBase.py' are the same file make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/local/mailman/tests' make: *** [doinstall] Error 2 What do I do differently so the application installs? Rich

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Question about account ownership, etc.
by Dana Runkle 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi guys, I am an officer in a non-profit organization that currently uses your wonderful software for mailing lists for our members, officers, programs, etc. We've got a possible issue coming down the pike, and I am hoping someone there can give me some answers. If something should happen to the volunteer who runs our email lists and we, the remaining officers, do not have access to the lists, what would Python need from us to prove ownership of said email lists and to transfer administrative control of all our lists to a new person? Thanks, Dana

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Word Wrap
by Adrean Clark 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Word wrap was forced. The text I pasted was not supposed to have line breaks, it was supposed to fit the width of the mail program. Plain text usually runs the width of the screen it's on -- that's what I want, not forced line ends. Hope I'm making sense. I checked the archives and the line breaks were there. So it must be my mail program that's causing the problem? I tried sending the same message from Google mail and my SquirrelMail program -- both had the hard wrap. Adrean ***** Clerc Scar Email Publication of the Signing Community http://www.clercscar.com

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Odd broken link after domain move
by J.A. Terranson 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi Python Mail Gurus! I followed the prior advice to move a list from domain.001 to domain.002, and except for one thing, everything appears *peefect*! In the [now corrected] archives, at the very bottom of the page is a broken link entitled: " More info on this list... " This is the only link that didnt convert to the new domain. Any way to fix it without vi? Thanks again! //Allif -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bother "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty." Joseph Pulitzer 1907 Speech

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Migrating Lists
by Henry Hartley 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

I have recently had a partial hard drive failure on my server. I installed CentOS 5.3 on a new hard drive and copied what I could from the old drive to the new, including, I think, everything that Mailman needs. I can get into the web admin interface for my lists, see the various settings for them, see the archives, etc. When I send mail to a list, however, it seems to go into a black hole. I get no response that there was a problem delivering the mail, the server's maillog shows that the message was received by the server, but the mail never seems to go out to the list. There is no message in the mailman/errors log. Any suggestions of what to check would be most appreciated. -- Henry

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upgrade mailman
by Lily Hewgley 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Hi. We have version 2.1.11 and would like to upgrade, if possible. Can you send me info and a link to your website, please. Thanks. Lily Hewgley State Bar of Texas<http://www.texasbar.com/> Web Designer - Sections (512) 427-1423

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Word Wrap
by b19141＠anl.gov 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

On 8/17/2009, Adrean Clark (cs(a)clercscar.com) wrote: > Also notice in the first sentence of the article a > sign was added. > It's not in the original -- where did that come from? Thanks for all > your help. > > ... > > >From Little Girls Point, we headed ... This is standard MBOX formatting rules. The beginning of each mail message in an mbox-formatted file has this From user(a)example.com Mon Jul 27 20:15:30 2009 The first five characters in this line are "From " This separates this message from the one above it. I do not remember if there needs to be a null or blank line before this separator line. Because of this, any line in the body of the mail that begins with "From " (note the upper-case "F") must be changed so that the line does not get treated as an mbox-separator line. The convention is to prefix the line with ">", as you saw. A blank character would have also worked. Note that persons frequently post problems with creating/re-building a Mailman list archive. These problems sometimes are caused by "From " lines that are not separators but which have not been modified per the mbox "standard". Also note that this is not a "word wrap" problem, as implied in the "Subject" line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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Re: [Mailman-Users] 32 vs 64bit
by b19141＠anl.gov 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

"Hicks, Robert CTR" <Robert.L.Hicks(a)uscg.mil> wrote: >I am having to rebuild a mailman server. Are there any problems running >mailman under a 64bit system? I run Mailman on a Linux amd64 server. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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