Mailman 3 August 2009 - Mailman-Users

address problem
by Jim McKay 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

I'm using * Mailman 2.1.9.-4.e15.i386 * Redhat 5.3.03.i386 * sendmail 8.13.8.2.el5,i386 I'm experienced with Mailman with BSD for sometime (a couple of years) but the first time with Redhat on a completely different server. For this example/problem, my host is wall Domain is ss.uic.edu so I have wall.ss.uic.edu Sendmail is fine and emails come and go with mail sent and received from user(a)wall.ss.uic.edu I've used RPM to install Mailman. I've created a list called techies with subscribers on everything from in-house to gmail. When as a subscriber I send email to techies(a)wall.ss.uic.edu the mail is arrives at users inboxes as being from techies(a)ss.uic.edu with "wall" left off. On the Mailman admin page for "Techies" , under "General Options", I have "Hostname this list prefers for email" set to wall.ss.uic.edu and it still leaves off wall. I've been through mm_config.py and sendmail.cf for days and simply can't find what's wrong. I can live with it if I just want to have broadcast lists but I also need to have lists where people can reply. Any suggestions or ideas. Thank you very much. Best wishes and many thanks for your consideration. Jim McKay Digital Media Specialist University of Illinois at Chicago College of Architecture and the Arts

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web-interface password..
by Khalil Abbas 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Hi, some of my lists ask for the password once and never ask again whenever I'm logged on, and some of them ask twice, once on logon and once when clicking on anything else ..most of them actually ask for the password twice then never ask again whenever I'm logged on .. why's that ? _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gall…

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Custom handler applied to digest to filter excessive quoted text?
by John Williams 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Hi all, Is it possible to create a custom handler for digests only? I want a mail list that automatically strips out duplicated quoted text in digests, so the same quoted text doesn't appear over and over. Such a thing doesn't appear to exist in any mailing list software, so I'm looking for the second-best thing, which is currently software that easily allows such a filter to be inserted. Any other ways people handle this problem, aside from telling users to not quote excessively? Thanks John Williams jodawi(a)gmail.com

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MailMan For LAN Only
by Carlos Williams 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

I am wanting to implement MailMan for my company LAN. I am currently running my email server on Postfix. I am wondering if someone can answer these questions for me. If I install MailMan / Apache on my mail server, will the MailMan list be visible by anyone on the web who can access my mail server via Apache? I am worried about spammers using MailMan to harvest valid email addresses. Even though it appears from the reading I have done that non-members can't send to the list w/o moderator approval, I still don't want the vulnerability of exposing my subscribed members email addresses. Can someone please tell me if this is possible and or how I should consider configuring MailMan for my LAN? Thanks for any assistance! -- Carlos

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Email command in Mailman to get by e-mail a message (like ezmlm has)
by Ricardo Dias Marques 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hello, I think this is my post to the Mailman Users mailing list. Hi everyone! :) I supposed this would be a FAQ, but I can't find it in Mailman's web site. My question is: "Is there any email command (or other way) that allows you to be e-mailed a past message (or messages) that was sent to a Mailman managed mailing list?" Browsing the Mailman list archives, I could only find a reference from September 2002 (almost 7 years ago!) from a user (Fernan Aguero) asking the same thing, but not getting a reply: [Mailman-Users] add to whishlist? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-September/022243.html I know that ezmlm has a "-get" command for doing this: EZMAN-0.32: ezmlm Commands http://www.ezmlm.org/ezman/ezman5.html >From that page: ---------------------------------------- -get Get a message or range of messages from the archive. Without argument it returns the messages since the latest digest. To retrieve a range of messages, use list-get.123_234@host(*). At most 100 messages are returned. Without ezmlm-idx, individual messages can still be retrieved by sending mail to list-get.123@host. ---------------------------------------- By reading the list of Mailman commands available in the following web page, it seems that Mailman (still) hasn't a command for doing that: Can I use email commands to interact with the Mailman server? http://www.washington.edu/computing/mailman/faqs/mailman.email.html Am I right? Is there some reason for not including this "get" message functionality in Mailman? Thanks in advance! :) Cheers, Ricardo Dias Marques lists AT ricmarques DOT net

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Approved: password header!
by b19141＠anl.gov 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Barry Warsaw <barry(a)python.org> wrote: >As a comparison, Launchpad's code review process allows for commands >in the body of the message. It looks for specific commands prepended >by a space. I don't particularly like that approach though because >the space can be hard to see. Would it find a command that is at the beginning of a line (and thus not preceeded by a space)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 222, Room D209 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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mailman user password
by tanstaafl＠libertytrek.org 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hello, I'm still trying to fix a problem I've had for a long time (started after an update) where mailman won't start from the standard init script. I think I have finally figured out what the problem is, but wanted to ask... Is the mailman user supposed to be passwordless? I know I'm running a non vanilla version, but my question is mostly generic I think... Currently, the init script contains: su - mailman -c '/bin/mailmanctl -s start' >/dev/null 2>&1 When I do this from a non-root account: myuser@myhost ~ $ su - mailman -c '/bin/mailmanctl -s start' >/dev/null 2>&1 I see this in the log: myhost su[6114]: pam_unix(su:auth): authentication failure; logname=myuser uid=1001 euid=0 tty=pts/2 ruser=myuser rhost= user=mailman myhost su[6114]: pam_authenticate: Authentication failure myhost su[6114]: FAILED su for mailman by myuser myhost su[6114]: - pts/2 myuser:mailman My problem is I don't know how this works/is supposed to work. Is mailmans passwd supposed to be empty/blank? That seems like a bad idea, but if not, how is it supposed to start without giving the password for the mailman account somehow? It starts fine if I start it from the command line as root, so it has to be something to do with the init script and/or permissions (the password for the mailman account)... Thanks for any comments/thoughts...

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Trying to get attachments to another partition
by Steven Owley 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hello everyone, Using a soft link as a substitute for the /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/my_list_name/attachments directory, I have tried to get my mailman installation to start putting attachments on another partition. This has not worked--I always get a "permission denied" error in the log. However, the link is accessible and the directory it points to is owned by the proper user. Of course the overall problem is that /var is too small for the number of lists now running on this server, but I thought that if I redirected the attachments I could buy more time to get the storage. I cannot figure out why this is not working. Thanks for your help, Steve

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Load testing a mailman server
by Steve Wray 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hi there, we are considering deploying a mailman mailing list server. I want to ensure that its fairly lean and that it also performs adequately. So I'd like to do some load testing on it to measure its performance. I'm wondering if anyone can provide any ideas, insights or warnings with respect to this sort of thing? Thanks! -- Please remember that an email is just like a postcard; it is not confidential nor private nor secure and can be read by many other people than the intended recipient. A postcard can be read by anyone at the mail sorting office and expecting what is written on it to be private and secret is not realistic. Please hold no higher expectation of email. If you need to send confidential information in an email you need to use encryption. PGP is Pretty good for this.

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mailman is not emailing to mailing list users.
by Oscar Balladares 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hi everybody! this is my first post.!! Thank you very much, in advance. I have a functional email server: a domain name system (bind9), Postfix + courier + virtual users (mysql). domain name: uccleon.edu.ni; server alias: mailserver; host name: uccleon.edu.ni; OS: Centos 5.2. The email service is working properly, but I had configured mailman with another domain name (ucc.lan), and everything was ok, now that I've changed it to "uccleon.edu.ni", mailman is not sending mails to the mailling list users. I send a mail to "modulos(a)uccleon.edu.ni" but it doesn't send that message to the list users. It doesnt even appear in the "List archive" neither in the "Pending request list". The users are not being moderated, so they can send mails in any case. what is ok: It sends the message for the new created list (i.e: modulos), to the admin account. i.e : "welcome to your new mailing list: Modulos".When a user wants to subscribes, it sends the confirmation email.When a user subscribes, it sends the welcome message. When a user wants to unsubscribes, it sends the confirmation email. When I type: $: newlist modulos it creates a "modulos(a)uccleon.edu.ni" recipient address, I have that account enabled in mysql and it is working fine as an email account. I'm thinking that if everything else is working as it should, it is possible to be a "http://localhost/mailman/admin/modulos/" configuration problem, the GUI configuration. Last time that it worked I followed these simple instructions at http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node13.html In short, I have to add a "MTA='Postfix'" to the mm_cfg.py file. and then make a refernce to the mailman aliases file in the "virtual_alias_maps=hash:/etc/mailman/aliases" tag, I guess that worked for me the first time. (I have a bad memory). This is my Postfix Main.cf file: [root@uccleon bin]# postconf -n alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases debug_peer_level = 2 home_mailbox = Maildir/ html_directory = no inet_interfaces = all mydestination = mailserver.uccleon.edu.ni, localhost, localhost.localdomain myhostname = uccleon.edu.ni mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix owner_request_special = no proxy_read_maps = $local_recipient_maps $mydestination $virtual_alias_maps $virtual_alias_domains $virtual_mailbox_maps $virtual_mailbox_domains $relay_recipient_maps $relay_domains $canonical_maps $sender_canonical_maps $recipient_canonical_maps $relocated_maps $transport_maps $mynetworks $virtual_mailbox_limit_maps smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.cert smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.key smtpd_use_tls = yes transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550 virtual_alias_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf, mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_email2email.cf, hash:/etc/mailman/aliases virtual_create_maildirsize = yes virtual_gid_maps = static:5000 virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf virtual_mailbox_limit_override = yes virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf virtual_maildir_extended = yes virtual_uid_maps = static:5000 [root@uccleon bin]# The mm_cfg.py file shows: from Defaults import * import pwd, grp MAILMAN_UID = pwd.getpwnam('mailman')[2] MAILMAN_GID = grp.getgrnam('mailman')[2] #from socket import * #try: # fqdn = getfqdn() #except: # fqdn = 'mm_cfg_has_unknown_host_domains' #DEFAULT_URL_HOST = fqdn #DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = fqdn DEFAULT_URL_HOST = "uccleon.edu.ni" DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = "uccleon.edu.ni" # Because we've overriden the virtual hosts above add_virtualhost # MUST be called after they have been defined. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) MTA = 'Postfix' MY /etc/aliases # STANZA START: modulos # CREATED: Sun Aug 2 12:56:50 2009 #modulos: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post modulos" #modulos-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin modulos" #modulos-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces modulos" #modulos-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm modulos" #modulos-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join modulos" #modulos-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave modulos" #modulos-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner modulos" #modulos-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request modulos" #modulos-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe modulos" #modulos-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe modulos" # STANZA END: modulos #mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" #mailman-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" #mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" #mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" #mailman-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" #mailman-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" #mailman-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" #mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" #mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" #mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" MY /etc/mailman/aliases # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Tue Aug 4 17:43:23 2009 mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" # STANZA END: mailman # STANZA START: modulos # CREATED: Tue Aug 4 17:44:09 2009 modulos: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post modulos" modulos-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin modulos" modulos-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces modulos" modulos-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm modulos" modulos-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join modulos" modulos-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave modulos" modulos-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner modulos" modulos-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request modulos" modulos-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe modulos" modulos-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe modulos" # STANZA END: modulos Any idea is Welcome! thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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