Mailman 3 August 2009 - Mailman-Users

erroneous unsubscriptions
by Lakshmi 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hi i am the owner of a mailing list. Recently people on the list were getting unsubscribed mysteriously. I have even disabled the bounce process. A few hours ago i received 30 unsubscription notifications. This is a serious error. Can someone please suggest how to fix this problem. Thanks Lakshmi -- Accomplishment is Enjoyment. Enjoyment is Accomplishment... http://www.romanceeternal.org

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Configure mailman inside a VPS
by Massimiliano "vagamente" 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hi all... Setting up mailman/postfix inside my ubuntu 8.10 server VPS, i think i messed up all the config files trying to make it work. Now i think i've messed'em up too much... Here they are, if some of you could take a look: . /etc/apache2/sites-available/mailman.conf : http://pastebin.com/f299879f1 . /etc/postfix/main.cf : http://pastebin.com/f65f9432f . /etc/postfix/master.cf : http://pastebin.com/f56b257d7 I must say that VPS doesn't work as mailserver 'cause the mailboxes are directly managed by the web-hoster. Thank all of you for your great work Massimiliano

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Strange Wiki entry for Postfix Tuning
by Stefan Förster 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Hello, I've discovered that the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/rIA9 mentions to set smtp_mx_session_limit=100. While normally, I would reject such a suggestion as outright wrong, I noticed that this were comments made by Barry Knowles, and you don't just ignore hints from someone with that much experience in mailing lists. So, what is the reason for that setting? From man 5 postconf: ,----[ man 5 postconf | less +/^smtp_mx_session_limit ] | smtp_mx_session_limit (default: 2) | | The maximal number of SMTP sessions per delivery request before | giving up or delivering to a fall-back relay host, or zero (no | limit). This restriction ignores sessions that fail to complete | the SMTP initial handshake (Postfix version 2.2 and earlier) or | that fail to complete the EHLO and TLS handshake (Postfix version | 2.3 and later). | | This feature is available in Postfix 2.1 and later. `---- While I can certainly imagine larger sites having somewhere between five to ten MXs, 100 seems a bit... oversized. Any hints/insights are really appreciated. Cheers Stefan

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STUPID USERS
by Charles Gregory 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Once before, I asked about possible solutions to problems that occur when people misread and/or 'reply' to mailman 'administrative' emails. I would like to cut-n-paste a latest mailing from a list subscriber to emphasize the problem. I'm not asking for an 'explanation', but I *am* asking that developers of mailman look through the email and SEE the 'chain of logic' that has a user sending requests to manage their 'bird list' subscription via the "last address used to send them mail about it." then eventually asking me to help them because they missed the critical piece of info that they need to do their commands on a 'per list' basis. I'm complaining that my time is WASTED over and over by these ignorant mistakes. Is there NO way to get a reminder notice to come FROM the list/list-owner, even given the obvious issue with possible multiple lists? I know how mailman works, but these people DON'T. Could there at least be an 'overview' function that recognizes mail sent to 'mailman-request' and gives them a list of commands to manage each list? For your amusement, and to emphasize my point, here is the message I received as mailman-owner, because user SENT their mail to 'mailman-bounces'..... (go fig) >From mailman-bounces(a)hwcn.org Wed Aug 5 09:32:50 2009 Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:32:49 -0400 From: mailman-bounces(a)hwcn.org To: mailman-owner(a)hwcn.org Subject: Uncaught bounce notification The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). For more information see: http://king.hwcn.org/mailman/admin/mailman/bounce [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:39 -0400 From: Helen <________(a)bmts.com> To: mailman-bounces(a)hwcn.org Subject: Re: The results of your email commands Could this information possibly be provided in a way that it can be understood ? I would like my subscription to stop on August 09 2009 and resume on September 10 2009.My address is _____(a)bmts.com password ____. Thank you H. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailman-bounces(a)hwcn.org> To: <______(a)bmts.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: The results of your email commands > The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your > original message. > > - Results: > Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts > help > Help for Mailman mailing list: > > This is email command help for version 2.1.5 of the "Mailman" > list manager. The following describes commands you can send to get > information about and control your subscription to Mailman lists at > this site. A command can be in the subject line or in the body of the > message. > > Note that much of the following can also be accomplished via the World > Wide Web, at: > > http://king.hwcn.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman > > In particular, you can use the Web site to have your password sent to > your delivery address. > > List specific commands (subscribe, who, etc) should be sent to the > *-request address for the particular list, e.g. for the 'mailman' > list, use 'mailman-request@...'. > > About the descriptions - words in "<>"s signify REQUIRED items and > words in "[]" denote OPTIONAL items. Do not include the "<>"s or > "[]"s when you use the commands. > > The following commands are valid: > > > confirm <confirmation-string> > Confirm an action. The confirmation-string is required and should > be > supplied by a mailback confirmation notice. > > end > Stop processing commands. Use this if your mail program > automatically > adds a signature file. > > help > Print this help message. > > info > Get information about this mailing list. > > lists > See a list of the public mailing lists on this GNU Mailman server. > > password [<oldpassword> <newpassword>] [address=<address>] > Retrieve or change your password. With no arguments, this returns > your current password. With arguments <oldpassword> and > <newpassword> > you can change your password. > > If you're posting from an address other than your membership > address, > specify your membership address with `address=<address>' (no > brackets > around the email address, and no quotes!). Note that in this case > the > response is always sent to the subscribed address. > > set ... > Set or view your membership options. > > Use `set help' (without the quotes) to get a more detailed list of > the > options you can change. > > Use `set show' (without the quotes) to view your current option > settings. > > subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>] > Subscribe to this mailing list. Your password must be given to > unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the password, > one > will be generated for you. You may be periodically reminded of > your > password. > > The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no > quotes!). > If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you sent > this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no brackets > around the email address, and no quotes!) > > unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>] > Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password must > match > your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will be > sent > to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an address > other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify > `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no > quotes!) > > who password > See everyone who is on this mailing list. The roster is limited to > list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the list > admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster. > > > Commands should be sent to mailman-request(a)hwcn.org > > Questions and concerns for the attention of a person should be sent to > > mailman-owner(a)hwcn.org > > help > Help for Mailman mailing list: > > This is email command help for version 2.1.5 of the "Mailman" > list manager. The following describes commands you can send to get > information about and control your subscription to Mailman lists at > this site. A command can be in the subject line or in the body of the > message. > > Note that much of the following can also be accomplished via the World > Wide Web, at: > > http://king.hwcn.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman > > In particular, you can use the Web site to have your password sent to > your delivery address. > > List specific commands (subscribe, who, etc) should be sent to the > *-request address for the particular list, e.g. for the 'mailman' > list, use 'mailman-request@...'. > > About the descriptions - words in "<>"s signify REQUIRED items and > words in "[]" denote OPTIONAL items. Do not include the "<>"s or > "[]"s when you use the commands. > > The following commands are valid: > > > confirm <confirmation-string> > Confirm an action. The confirmation-string is required and should > be > supplied by a mailback confirmation notice. > > end > Stop processing commands. Use this if your mail program > automatically > adds a signature file. > > help > Print this help message. > > info > Get information about this mailing list. > > lists > See a list of the public mailing lists on this GNU Mailman server. > > password [<oldpassword> <newpassword>] [address=<address>] > Retrieve or change your password. With no arguments, this returns > your current password. With arguments <oldpassword> and > <newpassword> > you can change your password. > > If you're posting from an address other than your membership > address, > specify your membership address with `address=<address>' (no > brackets > around the email address, and no quotes!). Note that in this case > the > response is always sent to the subscribed address. > > set ... > Set or view your membership options. > > Use `set help' (without the quotes) to get a more detailed list of > the > options you can change. > > Use `set show' (without the quotes) to view your current option > settings. > > subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest] [address=<address>] > Subscribe to this mailing list. Your password must be given to > unsubscribe or change your options, but if you omit the password, > one > will be generated for you. You may be periodically reminded of > your > password. > > The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or `digest' (no > quotes!). > If you wish to subscribe an address other than the address you sent > this request from, you may specify `address=<address>' (no brackets > around the email address, and no quotes!) > > unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>] > Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password must > match > your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will be > sent > to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an address > other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify > `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no > quotes!) > > who password > See everyone who is on this mailing list. The roster is limited to > list administrators and moderators only; you must supply the list > admin or moderator password to retrieve the roster. > > > Commands should be sent to mailman-request(a)hwcn.org > > Questions and concerns for the attention of a person should be sent to > > mailman-owner(a)hwcn.org > > > - Done. > > -- end quote-- =- Charles

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mailman and group mismatch error
by Greg White 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Hi, I am running Centos 5.3 with all of the updates. I needed a mail list server so I installed mailman and postfix. I did yum install postfix and yum install mailman. postfix installed and can send email to my live account so it is working. mailman is installed and I can goto my server and subscribe to a list. I get the confirmation email from mailman. However when I try to post I get a group mismatch error. I have done a google search and everyone says to recompile with the proper ./configure. I installed from packages. I would rather not have to recompile. Everything seems to be ok except I can't post. # /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as one of the following groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group: "root". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as one of these groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], or re-run configure providing the command line option: '--with-mail-gid=root'. # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/check_perms -f No problems found So what did I do wrong? And why isn't check_perms detecting the problem. >From what I read on the internet this is a very common problem. Thanks, Greg _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009

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[Fwd: confirm c0003074d812bbe0fa6cf95465cf94cbd247fe60]
by Oliver Glueck 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Hi Mark and Co., I get this Email (see below) with the notice that I have to confirm my membership because mails couldnot delivered to my mailbox. BUT: my mailbox is ok! Some other users (not all!) on the mailing list info get the same notice from mailman, but all mailboxes are ok and I cant find any errors on the mailserver. (Any emails to a list or to a user will be delivered. Suddenly some emails not. All mailing lists are ok. Before this confirmation email and after this, I get emails through the list info.) What is the problem? Thanks Oliver -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: confirm c0003074d812bbe0fa6cf95465cf94cbd247fe60 Datum: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:26:00 +0200 Von: info-request(a)blablabla.com An: glueck(a)blablabla.com Ihre Mitgliedschaft in der Mailingliste info wurde wegen wegen wiederholter Unzustellbarkeit Die letzte Unzustellbarkeitsmeldung von Ihnen kam am 04-Aug-2009 vorübergehend deaktiviert. Sie werden so lange keine Nachrichten dieser Liste mehr erhalten, bis Sie Ihre Mitgliedschaft wieder aktivieren. Unser System sendet Ihnen noch 3 weitere Mitteilungen, danach wird Ihre Mitgliedschaft hier komplett gelöscht werden. Um Ihre Mitgliedschaft wieder zu aktivieren, können Sie einfach auf diese Nachricht antworten (ohne die Betreff bzw. Subject-Zeile zu verändern), oder Sie klicken auf den folgenden Link. http://mail.blablabla.de/mailman/confirm/info/c0003074d812bbe0fa6cf95465cf9… Sie können auch Ihre Mitgliedschafts-Seite besuchen: http://mail.blablabla.de/mailman/options/info/glueck%40blablabla.com Dort können Sie verschiedenste Einstellungen, wie den Empfang von Nachrichtensammlungen oder Ihre E-Mailadresse, konfigurieren. Zur Erinnerung: Ihr Passwort für diese Liste lautet raoahzki Bei Fragen oder Problemen wenden Sie sich bitte an den Betreiber dieser Liste, erreichbar unter: info-owner(a)blablabla.com

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Duplicate Messages
by David Andrews 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

I have a problem, and don't know if there is an easy or viable solution. I run a bunch of lists for an organization, over 150 lists, about 80 percent public and 20 percent private. Periodically there are messages that need to go to everyone, or almost everyone. However, people belong to multiple lists so many people get duplicate copies of the same message. Is there any way to send to everyone, or sub-sets of everyone? Is it possible to subscribe everybody to an announce-only list, at the same time they subscribe to their chosen list or lists? Not sure I want that approach, but an option if possible. Dave

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postfix2mailman interface
by Robert Socha 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Helo, Sorry for my english. It's not my native language. I created simple program to integrate postfix with mailman. I do that because none other solution was ideal for my configuration of postfix (my postfix system use only virtual users without local recipients). My program is writen in C language and is very simple. It's take mappings from cdb file (qmail cdb, tinycdb library) and run mailman binary. For example: Postfix transport table: nameOfList postfix2mailman: nameOfList-subscribe postfix2mailman: nameOfList-anyaction postfix2mailman: postfix2mailman transport is definied in master.cf (example in source code) postfix2mailman cdb maps (arguments MUST be separate by TAB): nameOfList post<TAB> nameOfList nameOfList-subscribe subscribe<TAB> nameOfList nameOfList-action action<TAB> nameOfList<TAB>nextarg<TAB>more postfix2mailman translate this configuration to mailman invocation: /path/to/mailman post nameOfList /path/to/mailman subscribe nameOfList etc... In configuration file we can set: nice level, verbosity, mailman path and mappings for lists. This program works for me for more than week and I don't notice any problems. Mail volume on lists is about 30000 mails per day (this are announce type mailing lists). Homepage: http://storage.socha.it/mailman/ Maybe somoeone will find this code useful :) Greetings Robert Socha -- rjs

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anyone at domain able to post
by Luke Daly 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Hi Guys We have a list that has our network administrators on it. What we want as anything from a particular domain to get directed to the list members. Basically were not sure of an exact address but we know it will come from a particular domain. We don't want to open it up to everyone, only people from the designated domain. Thanks in advance for your help Regards Luke Daly Systems Officer IT Infrastructure Newcastle University 17000 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you are not an authorised recipient of this e-mail, please reply to the sender of this e-mail indicating that you are not the intended recipient. In this case, you should not print, re-transmit to another party, store or act in reliance on this e-mail or any attachments, and should destroy all copies of them. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged information and/or copyright material of the sender or third parties. You should only re-transmit, distribute or commercialise the material if you are authorised to do so.

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monthly password reminders
by Con Wieland 03 Aug '09

03 Aug '09

I run a server with a few hundred lists. When the monthly password reminders are sent they are sent from mailman-owner and so the bounces come back to the main mailman-bounces address. Is there a way to have them come from the list so they are returned to the individual list owners? Con Wieland University of California at Irvine

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