Mailman 3 February 2010 - Mailman-Users

Help?
by Scott Steinhart Feb. 7, 2010

Feb. 7, 2010

Hello... I was wondering if you would be so kind as to help me, I've been trying for 2 weeks straight to get Mailman working on my system. The only thing I've accomplished is headaches. I know the system works, as I have seen it in use. But no matter how I try, I am unable to get it to work. I'm running CentOS 5.2, Postfix, and Apache 2, and the current version of Python. I've followed the installation instructions. On some instances, I've gotten Mailman to go so far as to send me … [View More]

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Virtual host with "manual" MTA?
by Tim Bingham Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Greetings all, First-time poster here. I have Mailman 2.1.5 that has been running great for years on an older Solaris 8 server. I received a request to create a list using a host name that's not the actual host name of the server. Let's say the server is "lists.university.edu" and the requested list name is "listname(a)lists.project.org". I read up what I could find (and understand) about virtual hosts and I was able to successfully create the list with the alternate host name, … [View More]

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Message with the attachment!
by Marie-Yvette INGABIRE Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hello, I tried to send a message, which has to be approved by a moderator, with an attachment. I have just noticed that when the message is approved, it is sent but arrives at the addressees without that attachment. I consulted various discussions about subject but I found nothing that can inquire. Can you help me? Thank you -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu

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Message with the attachment!
by Marie-Yvette INGABIRE Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

Hello, I tried to send a message, which has to be approved by a moderator, with an attachment. I have just noticed that when the message is approved, it is sent but arrives at the addressees without that attachment. I consulted various discussions about subject but I found nothing that can inquire. Can you help me? Thank you -- Marie Yvette Leguojeu

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Possible Bug in 2.1.13 sync_members
by b19141＠anl.gov Feb. 4, 2010

Feb. 4, 2010

>Barry Finkel wrote: >> >>I ran a test with a test list on my test virtual machine, and this is >>what is happening. The line in the "-f" file for sync_members >> >> bsf-crane(a)example.com (New 1 (zzz)) >> >>is causing all of the succeeding lines in that file to be treated as >>part of the parenthesized "name-comments" field for this new >>bsf-crane entry. The command Mark Sapiro replied: >Yes, I am able to duplicate … [View More]this issue with email 3.0.1 >Utils.getaddresses(), but only if the input file is 'unix format' >(<LF> line terminators and only if the succeeding lines also have the >'name' in a comment. If the file is 'dos format' - i.e. <CRLF> line >terminators, the problem does not occur. Also, I don't think it occurs >with email 4.0.1 with either input format. And if there are lines of >the form "Display Name <user(a)example.com>", the first of those and the >subsequent lines will be OK. > >The underlying problem is in the _parseaddr module in the email package >which misses the second paren when a nested comment and the outer >comment terminate together > >As a workaround, for sync_members, you could try the following. Find >this section > > # strip out lines we don't care about, they are comments (# in first > # non-whitespace) or are blank > for i in range(len(filemembers)-1, -1, -1): > addr = filemembers[i].strip() > if addr == '' or addr[:1] == '#': > del filemembers[i] > print _('Ignore : %(addr)30s') > >add three lines so it becomes > > # strip out lines we don't care about, they are comments (# in first > # non-whitespace) or are blank > for i in range(len(filemembers)-1, -1, -1): > addr = filemembers[i].strip() > if addr == '' or addr[:1] == '#': > del filemembers[i] > print _('Ignore : %(addr)30s') > else: > # work around bug in email 3.0.1 Utils.getaddresses() > filemembers[i] = addr + '\r\n' > >The better fix is the attached _parseaddr.patch.txt for the 3.0.1 >email/_parseaddr.py I applied the patch to /usr/lib/python2.4/email/_parseaddr.py on my test Mailman system, and I reset the subscriber list back to its original. I then ran the same /usr/lib/mailman/bin/sync_members command, and there were no problems: the one subscriber was added, and the subsequent address lines were not unsubscribed. I did some RFC research, and RFC 2822 "Internet Message Format" in section 3.4.1 states: Note: Some legacy implementations used the simple form where the addr-spec appears without the angle brackets, but included the name of the recipient in parentheses as a comment following the addr-spec. Since the meaning of the information in a comment is unspecified, implementations SHOULD use the full name-addr form of the mailbox, instead of the legacy form, to specify the display name associated with a mailbox. Also, because some legacy implementations interpret the comment, comments generally SHOULD NOT be used in address fields to avoid confusing such implementations. The same text is in the newer RFC 5322, which obsoletes 2822. So the format I am using user(a)example.com (comments) SHOULD not be used; the accepted format is "comments" <user(a)example.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Possible Bug in 2.1.13 sync_members
by b19141＠anl.gov Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

I wrote: >>I think I may have uncovered a bug in Mailman 2.1.13. I have not >>completed my research. I have a script that refreshes the subscriber >>list via: >> >>/usr/lib/mailman/bin/sync_members -w=no -g=no -d=no -a=no \ >> -f /e tc/mailman/generated_lists/LISTNAME LISTNAME >> >>where >> >> /etc/mailman/generated_lists/LISTNAME >> >>is a file that contains a possibly updated mailing list. In that file >… [View More]>there is a line: >> >> ssmith(a)example.com (XYZ, 012345, Smith, S.A. (Sam)) >> >>and after I run the sync_members, every line below this one is >>ignored; the e-mail addresses in those lines are unsubscribed from >>the list. This has happened with two lists since I installed >>Mailman 2.1.13 (replacing 2.1.11 - I never installed 2.1.12 in >>production). The third list that contains this e-mail address has >>a different format: >> >> ssmith(a)example.com (Smith, S.A. (Sam) :012345) >> >>and that list has no problems. I have not yet checked for changes in >>the sync_members source from 2.1.11 to 2.1.12 to 2.1.13. And Mark Sapiro replied: >There are no changes in sync_members. What has changed is in 2.1.11, >Mailman used its own email package (version 2.5.8) installed in >Mailman's pythonlib directory. Beginning with 2.1.12, Mailman uses the >email package of the installed Python which depends on version. > >The difference is almost certainly in email.Utils.getaddresses() which >is used to parse the lines of the input into 'address' and 'display >name + comment' parts. > >I think the problem is that the addresses > >ssmith(a)example.com (XYZ, 012345, Smith, S.A. (Sam)) > >and > >ssmith(a)example.com (Smith, S.A. (Sam) :012345) > >contain comments within comments and email.Utils.parseaddr() used by >email.Utils.getaddresses() can be confused by this. However, email >4.0.1 which is in most recent Python versions parses those into > >name: 'XYZ, 012345, Smith, S.A. Sam', address: 'ssmith(a)example.com' > >and > >name: 'Smith, S.A. Sam :012345', address: 'ssmith(a)example.com' > >respectively, so that should be OK. Also email 3.0+ from python 2.4.2 >gives the same result. > >In any case, I am surprised at the result. If sync_members finds any >member addresses in the input file that appear invalid, it reports >these and quits before doing anything to the list, and if it throws an >exception while updating the list, it quits without saving the updated >list. > >What's in Mailman's error log? What's in the output from sync_members? I ran a test with a test list on my test virtual machine, and this is what is happening. The line in the "-f" file for sync_members bsf-crane(a)example.com (New 1 (zzz)) is causing all of the succeeding lines in that file to be treated as part of the parenthesized "name-comments" field for this new bsf-crane entry. The command python -v produces, in part, Python 2.4.3 (#2, Jul 31 2008, 21:53:26) The Python packages installed on this Ubuntu dapper system are python python-dev python-minimal python2.4 python2.4-dev python2.4-minimal and the e-mail piece is found in /usr/lib/python2.4/email and __init__.py has __version__ = '3.0.1' I will have to check if there is a newer Python package for dapper. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994 [View Less]

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Mailman 2.1.13 + vhost patches on multiple hosts
by Guy Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

Hi, I've patched 2.1.13 source with http://www.msapiro.net/mm/2.1.13_vhost.patch, vhost_extra_patch.txt and a patch for qrunner-slicing. I'm trying to run mailman across multiple mail servers and web servers. /var/lib/mailman is on a shared ISCSI mount. Starting mailman on any given server creates: /var/lib/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid /var/lib/mailman/locks/master-qrunner /var/lib/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.<FQDN>.<numeric string> Looking at the code I can find where the … [View More]

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alias not updating
by Dan Brita Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

I have a new installation of Mailman 2.1.12 running on Ubuntu with Postfix. When I create a list, it does not update my /etc/aliases file. It does update the /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases file. This causes Postfix to reject any email sent to the list. What have I done wrong in configuring this server? Any help is appreciated.

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where to edit html for /mailman/listinfo
by ed Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

OK, I still feel dumb and have drank all the available coffee, so now I will ask. Can someone point me to where to find the info on how/where to edit the "umbrella" listinfo page? (http://forktechs.com/mailman/listinfo) Thanks in advance Edward Tharp

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New Logo!
by Barry Warsaw Feb. 3, 2010

Feb. 3, 2010

Hello graphic designers, we have our first logo submission! http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/LogoSubmissions Thanks Andrija for kicking us off. Everyone else: sharpen up those inkscapes, gimps, or whatever other tool you use and submit some logos. If you have any problems adding your logos to the above page, please do let me know. Happy drawing, -Barry

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