Mailman 3 March 2010 - Mailman-Users

Configuration Change Log for list owner actions?
by Uwe Baumbach 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, has mailman any log or other mechanism to store changes in list configuration by list owners? Are there suggestions how to achive this with add-ons? Our goal is to support admin group members to follow actions of the others... or at least (as an site admin) to respond to their questions in critical situations. THX. Uwe (Baumbach) U.Baumbach(a)web.de - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkujuvMACgkQFEbayCH8zXn0OwCeNrXG+uimbLYBwNchntHJd1JV mtUAoNlRhofWvLHng7dCxRWIkPLQRYhf =+Kik -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Real or Fake Mailman message?
by Drew Tenenholz 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Folks -- Is the following message a REAL mailman message? I'm leaning towards yes, but then I'm going to know what to do about it.... It seems to be coming from a testing list that I use only rarely, and haven't touched in a long time. The message is pretty much coming daily now. I'm the only subscriber/owner/moderator though, and there is nothing the moderation queue. I can't find anything with this subject line in the wiki. -- Drew Tenenholz At 3:15 PM -0500 3/12/10, mailman-owner(a)myserver.org wrote: >X-Original-To: mailman-bounces(a)myserver.org >Delivered-To: mailman-bounces(a)myserver.org >Subject: Last autoresponse notification for today >From: mailman-owner(a)myserver.org >To: mailman-bounces(a)myserver.org >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:37:52 -0500 >X-BeenThere: mailman(a)myserver.org >List-Id: ISID Mailman Testing List <mailman.myserver.org> >X-ProMED-Id: 20100311.110389 >Sender: mailman-loop(a)myserver.org > >We have received a message from your address >`mailman-bounces(a)promed.isid.org' requesting an automated response >from the Mailman(a)promed.isid.org mailing list. We have seen 10 such >messages from you today. In order to avoid problems such as mail >loops between email robots, we will not be sending you any further >email responses today. Please try again tomorrow. > >If you believe this message is in error, or if you have any questions, >please contact the list owner at mailman-owner(a)promed.isid.org.

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Fwd: help
by lyn0927＠aol.com 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Please see the below message. I need to figure out how to do this asap... Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Barry Warsaw <barry(a)list.org> To: lyn0927(a)aol.com Sent: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 8:34 am Subject: Re: help On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:51 PM, lyn0927(a)aol.com wrote: >I just signed up for mailman. When I use the "invite" section the following comes in the subject line. Below is a sample: > >confirm 913c4d195a2fe17b131f4bdc2a5ac5247904cea1 > >How can I change this to be something like "Makenzie is inviting you to her newsletter"??? > >I need to do this right away...thanks.I am afraid that something like is in the subject line now will just get ignored. This is a pretty standard confirmation message. It's format allows people to just hit "reply" in order to confirm their subscription. It's not easily changed without hacking the source code. If you're interested in pursuing that route, please contact mailman-users(a)python.org. Cheers, -Barry

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Mailman Archives page not updating
by LexIcon 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

In regards to previous list message http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-February/060593.html ... I am entering "arch" in the /bin directory (/usr/lib/mailman/bin on a CentOS server), but the archive does not rebuild, and I only get the message "i686" back. I tried using "cleanarch" but I get the error message "bash: cleanarch: command not found" I also get "bash: mailmanctl: command not found" Typing "ls", I can see all of the files are present, so I'm not sure what is going wrong. - Lex

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Discard notification problem
by Thomas Hartwig 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I am running some lists with mailman and I have made real good experience. The problem which occurs now occasionally is that sometimes messages become discarded silently. The "vette" log contains very small information once a message is discarded. The discarding seems to happen preferable with freemailer accounts like web.de or freenet located here in germany. My core problem is that the sender (which is subscribed or white listed) is not notified by the discarding. Ok - this is what discarding means actually, but I am wondering if there is a possibility to avoid discarding in general or to get known why it happened. I have investigated already some time in this issue but I am afraid I am a little bit confused and lost in the code. So I have following questions: 1. Is there a global option to prefer rejecting over discarding? 2. Is there some kind of extended logging available to see the reasons of discarding? 3. Is there a global option to get notified by discards? Thanks Thomas

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Delivery Error
by Kris Johnson 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

When a bounce occurs due to a bad email address, all my list members receive an email stating "Delivery Error, Your message was not delivered successfully." Then the original message is repeated. Can I configure mailman to only send this message to the administrator or not send the message at all? I am using version 2.14.12.cp3 inside cpanel.

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Delivery to SMTP server very slow
by Stefan Foerster 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hello world, I have a very strange performance problem which only affects one small announce-only list with approximately 11000 recipients: The smtp logfile shows that it takes Mailman about 8400 seconds to deliver the mails, which just doesn't make sense. Setup: Mailman is configured to deliver outgoing mails to a dedicated Postfix smtpd(8) daemon listening on port 10031. That daemon is configured with all the usual stuff, no DNS lookups, no recipient verification, no pre-queue filters, dedicated DNS caches and so on (if it really matters, I can post the complete configuration to this list). VERP and personalization are turned off on the Mailman side. Postfix version is 2.8-20100213, but I ran a quick test with 2.6.5 just to be safe, and it doesn't change anything. Mailman version is 2.1.11 from Debian/stable. After I first noticed the problem, I checked the logs - nothing suspicious there. So I decided to to take some TCP captures. For all other lists on this server, the conversation between Postfix and Mailman is very fast paced, but for that one list, it takes almost one second for a recipient to be specified (which is then acknowledged immediately by Postfix). I really don't have any idea where I coul start debugging, or how. Normally it is the MTAs performance that people need to worry about, but that particular mailserver isn't busy at all, not even handling 550k messages per day. Posting to all other lists only takes a fraction of time, even ones that are much larger. There are no old queue files around, no exceptions being thrown, no process running at 100% CPU load during delivery, nothing shunted - it's just slow. As a quick workaround, I've increased the overall parallelism, as Ian Eiloart pointed out in [1], to ensure that the one slow list doesn't block anything, so the issue isn't really "top priority" - I'd be very grateful for any hints, though. Stefan [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2009-June/020643.html

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Mailman chewing up resources
by Geoff Shang 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Hello, We run a VPS running Debian with Mailman 2.1.11 and Postfix. Python is 2.5.2. Up until a couple of weeks ago, we were running a number of quite small mailing lists (max 200 members) with no problems. But then we imported the subscriber list of a list that we'd moved from Yahoogroups that contained 800+ members, and that's when the trouble started. This list not only has 800 or so members, but it's a fairly active list. We also have quite a number of deferred messages from Yahoo in the queue, but that's a different story. We've just implemented DKIM, hopefully that will help sort that one out. The problem we're seeing is that if the list gets any way busy, the memory usage of the python process that runs Mailman skyrockets, dragging the system to a crawl. We're a little clueless as to how to debug this further, so any help would be appreciated. Geoff.

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unclaimed action of mailman
by Masaharu Kawada 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

Dear list, I have a question about what mailman does when the following log appears into /var/log/maillog. ---/var/log/maillog--- Feb 15 12:00:04 xxx postfix/pickup[6279]: 244811C805C: uid=41 from=<mailman> Feb 15 12:00:04 xxx postfix/cleanup[21529]: 244811C805C: message-id=<20100215030004.244811C805C(a)example.com> Feb 15 12:00:04 xxx postfix/qmgr[20068]: 244811C805C: from=<mailman(a)example.com>, size=1728, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 15 12:00:04 xxx postfix/local[21232]: 244811C805C: to=<mailman(a)example.com>, orig_to=<mailman>, relay=local, delay=0.17, delays=0.05/0/0/0.12, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman) At the moment the above messages logged, nothing is operated (no mail send to mailman(a)example.com from mailman(a)example.com manually), however, this message happens at the almost same time every noon as follows. ---/var/log/mailman/vette--- Feb 15 12:00:04 2010 (2129) Mailman post from root(a)rexample.com held, message-id=<20100215030004.244811C805C(a)example.com>: Post by non-member to a members-only list Feb 16 12:00:05 2010 (2129) Mailman post from root(a)example.com held, message-id=<20100216030004.69E7A1C8064(a)example.com>: Post by non-member to a members-only list Feb 17 12:00:04 2010 (2129) Mailman post from root(a)example.com held, message-id=<20100217030004.50F4C1C806A(a)example.com>: Post by non-member to a members-only list Feb 18 12:00:05 2010 (2129) Mailman post from root(a)example.com held, message-id=<20100218030004.723801C806A(a)example.com>: Post by non-member to a members-only list ---</etc/cron.d/mailman>--- 0 12 * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cron/gate_news ---</etc/mailman/aliease>--- # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Mon Jan 25 16:48:18 2010 mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" According to the time of the log, it seems that this is related to either of the cron jobs specified in /etc/cron.d/mailman(senddigests of ate_news). But I dont get what is exactly going on nor what kind of mail send to the mailman(a)example.com(how can I verify it?). Could anyone in this list provide comments/suggestions please? -Environment OS:RHEL5 postfix-2.3.3-2.1.el5_2 mailman-2.1.9-4.el5 Sincerely, -- ------------------- Masaharu Kawada

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mailman
by Michael 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

Hi There Please help with the following problem. with mailman I need to send a mail to the name of the mailing list, but its not going to the email on the list, I sent a mail to the list name for example, testlist(a)canit.co.za but im not getting the mail, do i need to send it from a specifiv account? what must i do? thanks chanan

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