Mailman 3 September 2010 - Mailman-Users

problem with emails
by kobi barnea 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

hi i installed mailman and i think it a good solution for me however, when i send emails to the default mail address none of subscribers gets the email. when i check the inbox of that mail i dont see the emails i sent there - i guess mailman pull them. please advice barnea

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 40
by kobi barnea 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

hi im starting with mailman - it looks like a good solution for me and my group however, i have it installed, subscribed myself to the list and my friend but i dont get emails from the system not a notification of subscription mail and not test mail i sent to the main mailman email address i configured please advice !!! barnea 2010/9/29 <mailman-users-request(a)python.org> > Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to > mailman-users(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mailman-users-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mailman-users-owner(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather than sender? > (Stephen J. Turnbull) > 2. Re: 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather > thansender? (Mark Sapiro) > > > ---------- הודעה שהועברה ---------- > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> > To: Christopher Adams <adamsca(a)gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:13:20 +0900 > Subject: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather > than sender? > Christopher Adams writes: > > I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with > > 'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list > > name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if > > the list is set up this way? > > I believe that the list can be set to acknowledge receipt to the > poster. > > If you want the poster to get acks from each recipient individually, > it can be done, but AFAIK (a) you have to modify the Mailman code and > (b) bounce processing becomes the responsibility of the poster, > because "sender" is where many (most) software will send error > notices, regardless of other settings. > > > > > ---------- הודעה שהועברה ---------- > From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> > To: Christopher Adams <adamsca(a)gmail.com>, mailman-users(a)python.org > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:57:51 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather > thansender? > Christopher Adams wrote: > > >I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with > >'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list > >name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if > >the list is set up this way? > > > By "sending as ... list name" I'm assuming you mean the list is > anonymous, i.e., General Options -> anonymous_list = Yes. > > The issue here is the CookHeaders.py handler saves the original From: > or other sender for use by the Acknowledge.py handler in sending the > 'ack', but for an anonymous lists, the Cleanse.py handler which > removes all the sender information comes ahead of CookHeaders in the > pipeline. > > I actually broke this inadvertently in Mailman 2.1.13, and now I'll > have to figure out what to do about that. The issue is that for > anonymous lists, Cleanse removes the From:, Reply-To: and Sender: > headers from the post. This causes the get_sender() method used by > CookHeaders to get the original sender to fall back to the Unix from > (envelope sender). The issue is that in 2.1.13, I "improved" > anonymizing by munging the Unix from in anonymized posts to the list > address, so now CookHeaders fets the list address as the sender when > saving the original sender, and since this is generally not a list > member with 'ack' true, no ack is sent. > > I suppose the easiest fix is to have Cleanse rather than CookHeaders > save the original sender. One could also reorder the pipeline to put > Cleanse after CookHeaders, but I'm not sure at this point if there > would be unintended consequences from that. > > I'll follow up with a patch when I work this out. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >

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recover mail archive
by Schwartz, Robert - IS 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

My website recently crashed and we are moving it to a new hosting site. Is the mail archive backed up on your server? I would like to rebuild the archive once our site is back up and running. The address is m-c-b.org ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.

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Problem building Mailmn 2 1 4
by lists.mailman-users＠duinheks.nl 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Hello, I'm trying to intake Mailman 2.1.4 on my SlackWare 13.0 system. I configure it with "./configure --prefix=/opt/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-gid=www" and see no messages there. But when I do a "make install" i see: "Creating architecture independent directories... ... Compiling /opt/mailman/Mailman/versions.py ... bin/update:37: DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead import md5 /opt/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py:32: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha Traceback (most recent call last): File "bin/update", line 48, in <module> from Mailman import MailList File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 49, in <module> from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py", line 17, in <module> from Archiver import * File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 31, in <module> from Mailman import Mailbox File "/opt/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 21, in <module> import mailbox File "/usr/lib/python2.6/mailbox.py", line 19, in <module> import email.message ImportError: No module named message make: *** [update] Error 1" What's happening? As I am no C programmer, I don't know what to do. Thanks for any useful help, Regards, Hans. J.D.H. Beekhuizen e-mail: jdh.beekhuizen(a)duinheks.nl tel: ++31(71)4015437 fax: ++31(71)4017198

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'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather than sender?
by Christopher Adams 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with 'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if the list is set up this way? -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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Preventing from getting on spam list
by Hung Phan 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hello, We are a school district which sends out legitimate messages about school information to parents but last week, we were tagged by spamrats as spammer. An important message did not reach all the subscribers because the local ISP which hosts many of our parents' emails, subscribes to spamrats as one of the anti-spam source. What measures can we take to prevent us from being tagged as spammer again? All our lists are always set to not allow non-members post. Is it even worth $102 annually to be on whitelisted.org? I believe whitelisted.org will drop us immediately out of the whitelist as soon as we somehow trigger the spamrats again. Thank you very much for advice on this matter :-)

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Mailman 2.1.14 Multiple Owner(s) Patch - Problem
by b19141＠anl.gov 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

I am testing Mailman 2.1.14 via a Debian/Ubuntu package I built from the SourceForge source. I included the "multiple list owner" patch from Mark Sapiro (Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:11:06 -0700). I created a new list, and I specified two addresses in response to the Enter the email(s) of the person running the list: prompt: user1@example.com,user2@example2.com The list-creation mail was sent to both addresses, but the admin web page shows only the first address as the owner. When I compare the 2.1.13 patched newlist with the 2.1.14 patched newlist installed by the package: vm20% diff build_mailman_2.1.13/mailman-2.1.13/bin/newlist \ /usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist 1c1 < #! @PYTHON@ --- > #! /usr/bin/python 3c3 < # Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. --- > # Copyright (C) 1998-2010 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. 205c205 < emailhost=host_name) --- > emailhost=host_name, urlhost=urlhost) vm20% and comparing the original source in my two package-build directories: vm20% diff build_mailman_2.1.13/mailman-2.1.13/bin/newlist.original \ build_mailman_2.1.14/mailman-2.1.14/bin/newlist.original 3c3 < # Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. --- > # Copyright (C) 1998-2010 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. 201c201 < emailhost=host_name) --- > emailhost=host_name, urlhost=urlhost) vm20% and comparing the patched source in my two package-build directories: vm20% diff build_mailman_2.1.13/mailman-2.1.13/bin/newlist \ build_mailman_2.1.14/mailman-2.1.14/bin/newlist 3c3 < # Copyright (C) 1998-2009 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. --- > # Copyright (C) 1998-2010 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. 205c205 < emailhost=host_name) --- > emailhost=host_name, urlhost=urlhost) vm20% I tried creating two other test lists with two owners to see if the e-mail address domain had any effect: list 2: user2@example2.com,user@example.com list 3: user@example.com,user2@example.com The single owner in each case: list 2: the second address list 3: the first address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry S. Finkel Computing and Information Systems Division Argonne National Laboratory Phone: +1 (630) 252-7277 9700 South Cass Avenue Facsimile:+1 (630) 252-4601 Building 240, Room 5.B.8 Internet: BSFinkel(a)anl.gov Argonne, IL 60439-4828 IBMMAIL: I1004994

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BATV and Mailman
by Christopher Adams 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hello all, I have had a couple of list subscribers fail to post message to their lists. I tracked down the logs and this seems to be the common theme. I Googled prvs= and found info on BATV. Does Mailman not play well with this or am I not quite understanding what this means? <prvs=288122D8EB=email(a)anywhere.com>: Sender address rejected: undeliverable address: host senders.mailserver.com[xxx.xx.xxx.xx] said: 550 5.1.1 -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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Auto-unsubscribe from other lists
by Hung Phan 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hello, We have multiple lists that users can subscribe to and one big list that we manually update periodically. Is there a solution for users to subscribe to one list and automatically subscribe to the big list? For the unsubscribe, can the users see all the lists that they subscribe to and choose multiple lists at once? Thank you very much,

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security implications for adding apache to mailman group
by Syn, Joonho 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

I'm writing a mailman dashboard page for my company using cgi/perl but in order to get the necessary info I'll need to give apache read access to all the current .pck files as well as any made in the future. What are the security implications of adding apache to the mailman group or just using sudo in my script?

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