Mailman 3 January 2011 - Mailman-Users

Rr: Recovering from Server Fail
by McNutt Jr, William R Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

If I continue to "make install" I get the following error: .././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts .././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done /usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman-2.1.9/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Recovering from Server Fail, was FW: Make Install Fails
by McNutt Jr, William R Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

Here's some more information: At step 3.1 of the installation instructions, the ./configure step appears to run to completion, but then ends with a warning: can't change build. I don't get this when I run as root, but the instructions pretty clearly say that I should not be "root" when I run it. Is this the core of my problem? -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+mcnutt=utk.edu(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+mcnutt=utk.edu@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:03 PM To: C Nulk Cc: MailMan Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about reg expr matches in matches_p (in Moderate.py) On 1/19/2011 3:35 PM, C Nulk wrote: > > So the question is, should the listnames in the *_these_nonmembers > fields be all lowercase, all uppercase, or mixed case? So far, mixed > case does not appear to be working. The list name in @listname entries in *_these_nonmembers must be the internal name of the list, i.e. it is all lower case, and in distros such as cPanel that have munged listnames, it must be the name that's used in the web interface which may be different from the name in the posting address. Again, in cPanel for example, this is the listname_domain name, not simply listname. These are the only case sensitive entries in *_these_nonmembers. regexps and literal addresses are matched case insensitively. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mcnutt%40utk.edu

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Question about reg expr matches in matches_p (in Moderate.py)
by C Nulk Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

Hello all, I am getting in my error log frequent entries like the following: Jan 19 14:51:32 2011 (31592) *_these_nonmembers in scu-<list name> references non-existent list SCU-<other list name> To allow list members in several lists to cross post, I have added the appropriate @listname in the accept_these_nonmembers field. For example, there are two lists, ListA and ListB. ListA is in ListB's accept_these_nonmembers (as @ListA) and ListB is in ListA's accept_these_nonmembers (@ListB). The two lists are exclusive of one another (no member is in both lists). To my knowledge, this should work unless the regular expression and/or the listname are case-sensitive. So the question is, should the listnames in the *_these_nonmembers fields be all lowercase, all uppercase, or mixed case? So far, mixed case does not appear to be working. Thanks, Chris

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Recovering from Server Fail, was FW: Make Install Fails
by McNutt Jr, William R Jan. 20, 2011

Jan. 20, 2011

I've continued to fiddle with this and now have different errors, so I thought I would back up and give ya'll the big picture in case I'm approaching this from the wrong direction. Tuesday morning I had a hardware failure on my old Solaris 10 box. In 25 years in the business, I don't think I've seen a hardware failure as thorough as this that didn't involve smoke. The machine is utterly unrecoverable. So to get back into service, I decided to move the service to a different box. It's also a Solaris box, but is a Sun X4100. I have restored the directory tree from tape, but presume that the executables can't be run on the new platform. What is the quickest way to get mailman back in service? Bill McNutt -----Original Message----- From: mailman-users-bounces+mcnutt=utk.edu(a)python.org [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+mcnutt=utk.edu@python.org] On Behalf Of McNutt Jr, William R Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:44 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] Make Install Fails I'm attempting to install Mailman on a Solaris 10 box and I am unable to get past "make install." Sorry - not a unix guy, please use small words and explicit direction. Attached is the results of make install: Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix reset_pw.py; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /usr/local/mailman/bin; \ done for f in crontab.in; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $i /usr/local/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/usr/local/mailman/$d; \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done .././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts .././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done /usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall' ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mcnutt%40utk.edu

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Make Install Fails
by McNutt Jr, William R Jan. 19, 2011

Jan. 19, 2011

I'm attempting to install Mailman on a Solaris 10 box and I am unable to get past "make install." Sorry - not a unix guy, please use small words and explicit direction. Attached is the results of make install: Creating architecture independent directories... chmod o-r /usr/local/mailman/archives/private Creating architecture dependent directories... for f in mmsitepass newlist rmlist add_members list_members remove_members clone_member update arch sync_members check_db withlist check_perms find_member version config_list list_lists dumpdb cleanarch list_admins genaliases change_pw mailmanctl qrunner inject unshunt fix_url.py convert.py transcheck b4b5-archfix list_owners msgfmt.py show_qfiles discard rb-archfix reset_pw.py; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/bin/$f /usr/local/mailman/bin; \ done for f in crontab.in; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for f in checkdbs mailpasswds senddigests gate_news nightly_gzip bumpdigests disabled; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 755 ../build/cron/$f /usr/local/mailman/cron; \ done for i in ./*.jpg ./*.png; \ do \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 $i /usr/local/mailman/icons; \ done for d in bin cron scripts tests; \ do \ dir=/usr/local/mailman/$d; \ .././install-sh -c -m 644 paths.py $dir; \ done .././install-sh -c -m 755 mailman /usr/local/mailman/scripts .././install-sh -c -m 644 sitelist.cfg /usr/local/mailman/data for p in email-2.5.8 JapaneseCodecs-1.4.11 KoreanCodecs-2.0.5; \ do \ gunzip -c ./$p.tar.gz | (cd . ; tar xf -); \ (cd ./$p ; umask 02 ; PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib /usr/local/bin/python setup.py --quiet install --install-lib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-purelib /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib --install-data /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib); \ done /usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/dist.py:250: UserWarning: 'licence' distribution option is deprecated; use 'license' warnings.warn(msg) src/hangul.c:33: error: syntax error before numeric constant src/hangul.c:34: error: syntax error before numeric constant error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-packages' Current working directory /export/home/local/mailman/mailman-2.1.9/misc *** Error code 1 The following command caused the error: for d in bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests; \ do \ (cd $d; make DESTDIR= install); \ done make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `doinstall'

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TypeError: list objects are unhashable
by Alain Williams Jan. 19, 2011

Jan. 19, 2011

I am running Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -- that cannot change since the machine is running CentOS 4 and so has python 2.3.4 (the box will be upraded/rebuilt in a few months). The traceback is below, since I don't speak python it doesn't mean much to me. The list works, but the error below appears when anyone enters their email address and tries to see their subscrition options. I would be grateful if someone could give me some pointers as to what I have done wrong. Many thanks. admin(21868): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -----] admin(21868): [----- Traceback ------] admin(21868): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(21868): File "/usr/local/mailman/fridayfolk/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(21868): main() admin(21868): File "/usr/local/mailman/fridayfolk/Mailman/Cgi/options.py", line 93, in main admin(21868): if not Utils.IsLanguage(language): admin(21868): File "/usr/local/mailman/fridayfolk/Mailman/Utils.py", line 678, in IsLanguage admin(21868): return mm_cfg.LC_DESCRIPTIONS.has_key(lang) admin(21868): TypeError: list objects are unhashable admin(21868): [----- Python Information -----] admin(21868): sys.version = 2.3.4 (#1, Aug 8 2009, 09:59:27) -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include <std_disclaimer.h>

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Wiki downtime
by Barry Warsaw Jan. 19, 2011

Jan. 19, 2011

Our hosting provider is going to upgrade our wiki instance. There may be a short amount of downtime. Apologies for any inconvenience. -Barry

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Are any attachments ok to allow on a listserv?
by Ruth Indeck Jan. 18, 2011

Jan. 18, 2011

Many people say that the best thing is not to allow attachments at all on a listserv. Other people think pdfs are ok (except some are too big for old machines to donwload). I also heard that a virus file could take on a fake extention, like .pdf, and fool people. What do Users think about this? Thanks!

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Content Filtering
by Ruth Indeck Jan. 17, 2011

Jan. 17, 2011

I don't know a lot about scripts, so the most useful answers would involve just telling me what settings to use. I would like to have content filtering turned on, because I would like to make sure that attachments don't go out on the list, and especially the dangerous ones. Here are my problems (I have not yet added a lot of names, and am still in the testing stage): 1. When I try to turn Content Filtering on, my email (an announcement of shows at a folk club, with links and some html) comes through with the html intact and a message at the top saying: "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed" When I turn CF off, there is no strange message and the email comes through ok, but I worry that someone else might send an email with a bad attachment. 2. When I tried to send the same message with a pdf and a Word doc, just to test it, the message went through without any content at all -- neither the attachments nor the actual email message came through. Here are the settings I am using: Yes Blank multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain message/rfc822 exe bat cmd com pif scr vbs cpl Blank Yes Yes Reject

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PHP API? or indiv. subscriber utilities?
by David Barr Jan. 15, 2011

Jan. 15, 2011

Good Morning! I have a volunteer database written in LAMP. I'd love to be able to automagically add new volunteers to the appropriate lists when they register. This would be a single email address & password getting added to one or more lists at registration. For bonus points, if a user modifies his or her address, I'd like to remember the old address long enough to delete it, and add the new one. I've found documentation about large-scale membership manipulation, but I haven't found how to automate the act of subscribing a new individual. If documentation or examples exist, I'd love links! Thanks! David -- David - Offbeat http://dafydd.livejournal.com dafydd - Online http://pgp.mit.edu/ Battalion 4 - Black Rock City Emergency Services Department Integrity*Commitment*Communication*Support ----5----1----5----2----5----3----5----4----5----5----5----6----5----7-- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone. The political problem of mankind is to combine three things: economic efficiency, social justice and individual liberty. -- John Maynard Keynes

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