Mailman 3 July 2011 - Mailman-Users

mails go missing
by Kari Laine 16 Jul '11

16 Jul '11

Hi, this is my first post to this list. I am GoDaddy customer. I am setting site at http://opensourceug.net where you can test the lists. Problem is that when I register to a list I don't always get a confirmation mail. Sometimes I get it sometimes not. If I try to register several times it some times like wakes up and I get several at the same time. I am at the hold to godaddy support at this time. Any ideas? Is is just GoDaddy .... Best RegardsKari Laine

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Message approval by mail
by Rob 15 Jul '11

15 Jul '11

I am trying to use the option to approve moderated messages using the 'reply' feature but it doesn't seem to work for me. I add the Approved:<password> header to my reply as the first line in the body, but the message simply arrives back in my inbox unmodified, and the moderated message stays in the queue until I approve it with the web interface. Running v2.1.14 Thanks, -Rob An example of an outgoing 'approval' message is below: Return-Path: <mailman-bounces(a)acvr.org> Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by acvr.org (Cyrus v2.3.8-OS X Server 10.5: 9G7013y) with LMTPA; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 Received: from xserve.petrad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73783962E for <treasurer(a)acvr.org>; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: xservetestlist-owner(a)acvr.org Delivered-To: xservetestlist-owner(a)acvr.org Received: from [192.168.42.17] (office.petrad.com [173.12.22.82]) by acvr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE7839623 for <xservetestlist-owner(a)acvr.org>; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Xservetestlist post from mclear(a)petrad.com requires approval From: "Robert C. McLear, ACVR Treasurer" <treasurer(a)acvr.org> In-Reply-To: <mailman.136.1310738529.140.xservetestlist(a)acvr.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:03:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <A185C472-B229-458B-B579-A001168A12C0(a)acvr.org> References: <mailman.136.1310738529.140.xservetestlist(a)acvr.org> To: xservetestlist-owner(a)acvr.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Errors-To: mailman-bounces(a)acvr.org Sender: mailman-bounces(a)acvr.org Approved:******** On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:02 AM, xservetestlist-owner(a)acvr.org wrote: > As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the > following mailing list posting: > > List: Xservetestlist(a)acvr.org > From: mclear(a)petrad.com > Subject: test > Reason: Post to moderated list > > At your convenience, visit: > > http://www.acvr.org/mailman/admindb/xservetestlist > > to approve or deny the request. > > From: Robert McLear <mclear(a)petrad.com> > Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:02 AM EDT > To: xservetestlist(a)acvr.org > Subject: test > > > test > > > > From: xservetestlist-request(a)acvr.org > Date: July 15, 2011 10:02:09 AM EDT > Subject: confirm dda15190a0e5ffa59d0894b92f7a9efface6b70b > > > If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact, > Mailman will discard the held message. Do this if the message is > spam. If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header > with the list password in it, the message will be approved for posting > to the list. The Approved: header can also appear in the first line > of the body of the reply.

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Mail to some lists works, bounces for others
by Luke Tymowski 13 Jul '11

13 Jul '11

Hello, We have a number of mailing lists that are member-only. On most of the lists, users can post successfully. But on others, even though people attempting to post are members, or in one case the list owner, their mail is rejected. "550 5.1.1 Recipient address rejected: User unknown" There are no lock files for a particular list. The only files in /var/lib/mailman/locks are master-qrunner and master-qrunner.mailman.2502 (The dates on those two files are more than 24 hours into the future - is that normal?) The /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases shows the relevant aliases for that particular list. Mailman version: 2.1.13 OS: Ubuntu 10.04.2 MTA: Postfix 2.7.0 thanks, Luke

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Is there a Command to extract the lists owners?
by Steven Jones 12 Jul '11

12 Jul '11

I need to email each list owner to let them know the server will be off line while I upgrade it, so I need their email addresses. regards

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Moderator forwarding from "announce" list to "talk" list
by Ken Winter 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

Here's a second question about how to set up "announce" and "talk" lists for a neighborhood group. (For the first question and answer, see http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg59493.html.) Let's say the addresses of these are announce(a)my.group and talk(a)my.group. The "announce" list is moderated. Frequently, the moderator's reason for rejecting a post is that it is an expression of opinions rather than factual information, and as such is appropriate to the "talk" list rather than the "announce" list. So the goal here is to enable the moderator to reroute the message from "announce" to "talk". Many of my users - and those who send the most inappropriate posts - are not technically savvy and not easily educated, and I have no control over their email clients or how they are configured, so a scheme that minimizes the demands on them is essential here. Here is the only way I have found to forward messages within Mailman: On the "Posting Held for Approval" form, enter: * Action: Reject * Additionally, forward this message to: talk(a)my.group (check the check-box) * If you reject this post, please explain (optional): <A custom message telling the sender where her post has been forwarded> This method presents these problems: 1. The "From:" address of the forwarded message, when it arrives at talk(a)my.group, is announce-bounces(a)my.group, rather than the original sender. So replies to the "talk" message will go back to announce-bounces(a)my.group (which sends a useless "Uncaught bounce notification" message back to the moderator), whereas the need to go back to the sender. So the question here is: How to set the "From:" (or "Reply-To:") address of the forwarded message to the address of the original sender? 2. When the forwarded message shows up in a "talk" member's mailbox, its Subject: line is always "Forward of moderated message". Every word of that headline is going to be meaningless to my non-techy users! The need here is to put the original sender's original headline in the "Subject:" line of the forwarded message. 3. In Outlook (2002), the body shows up as an attachment; either the header or the footer shows up as the message body. My non-techy users have barely mastered opening attachments, even when the body of the message refers to them; they're never going to find the body if it's hidden in an attachment. Gmail presents the message OK. These are the only two clients I've tried. 4. If the first three problems can't be solved, a fallback possibility would be just to reject the message from announce, and put into the rejection message the suggestion that the user resend the message to talk(a)my.group. This would work much better for my non-tech users if their original message were attached to the rejection message, so they could just open the attachment and forward it to the suggested address. This would at least spare them from having to search in their "sent items" folder for the message to resend. In short: The requirement here is to get inappropriate messages to "announce" forwarded to "talk" in such a way that the original sender's address and subject line appear in the "From:" and "Subject:" fields, respectively - and to do this in a way that minimizes the skills required of my user community. ~ Thanks in advance ~ Ken

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Rerouting "announce" replies to "talk" automatically
by Ken Winter 10 Jul '11

10 Jul '11

I'm trying to set up "announce" and "talk" lists for a neighborhood group. Let's say the addresses of these are announce(a)my.group and talk(a)my.group. As usual, "announce" is to be a one-way, no-reply list. I want replies addressed to "announce" to be automatically rerouted to "talk". Following the advice at http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030685, I have set these under the announce(a)my.group General Options: 1. "first_strip_reply_to": Yes 2. "reply_goes_to_list": Explicit address 3. "reply_to_address": talk(a)my.group 4. "include_list_post_header": No Everything works fine, except when the recipient of an announce message hits reply-to-all. Then the "To:" line of the mail client is populated as talk(a)my.group; announce(a)my.group. So the reply goes back to the "announce" list as well as to "talk". Is there any way to set up the "announce" list so that reply-to-all does not include announce(a)my.group, or is that purely controlled by the mail client? (List members are not techies, and I have no control over the type and settings of the email clients they use.) If I can't stop the reply-to-all from going back to "announce", is there any way to set up "announce" so it recognizes these replies and automatically discards them? (It will not work to just reject emails from list members, since all of them are authorized to send messages to the list.) ~ Thanks in advance ~ Ken

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Monthly mailing of password hints
by Jack G F Hill 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

We encountered a situation that felt like an error, but probably is not... User is set to NoMail while he moves from one place (and one ISP) to another... no current (working) email address... The system continues to try sending password reminders, which bounce and cause the hosting owner to be concerned about mail errors... Ought mailman (2.1.14) continue sending out password reminders to a "NoMail" subscriber? Is there a setting I can get to to stop the reminders until he returns? I couldn't find it if such a switch exists for list admins... -- Jack Hill, W4KH - BoatAnchors Listowner/Archiver listown(a)nanniandjack.com "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" "Il n'y a que les idiots qui ne changent jamais d'idee"

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailpasswds error
by Dennis Putnam 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

Thanks for the reply. I ran the test message and what I got back was nothing like what you suggested. It was simply the message, in tact, as if it was a simple relay. There was nothing in the bounce log either. Obviously there is still something wrong but where do I go from here? On 7/6/2011 8:28 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Dennis Putnam wrote: >> Thanks for the reply, however I'm a little confused by it. I did indeed >> run 'config_list -o file mailman' first. Are you saying that the import >> was already done and the '-i' command is unnecessary? > > No. I'm saying that when you ran 'bin/config_list -i file dapmm' all > the settings in 'file' were successfully applied except for the one > > real_name = ' Mailman' > > setting which you didn't want anyway. > > >> There is nothing >> in the Wiki article that indicated that your suggested edit is necessary. > > I'll update the wiki as soon as the licensing innue that prevents me > from doing so at the moment is resolved. > > >> In any case I've sent the password reminder messages and they were all >> processed by Postfix as before. I guess now I have to see if anything >> comes back although I know already that the message to my own address >> should have arrived by now. I did verify that 'dapmm-bounces' was the >> 'From:' address on the outgoing messages. > > Did you verify the the outgoing MTA relayed the message(s)? > > >> Will I screw anything up if I send a test message to 'dapmm-bounces' and >> what should I expect as result? > > No. Assuming Bounce processing -> > bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner is Yes, an ordinary email test > message to dapmm-bounces that doesn't look like a DSN should be > forwarded to the owner address(es) of the dapmm list. In any case, > there should be a message like > > Jul 05 10:46:31 2011 (23530) dapmm: bounce message w/no discernable > addresses: <message-id> > > and if forwarding, one like > > Jul 05 10:46:31 2011 (23530) dapmm: forwarding unrecognized, > message-id: <message-id> > > in Mailman's bounce log. >

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Mailman MySQL backend migration question
by kphamilton 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

Hello, I am attempting to migrate from using Mailman's flat file to store information about members towards a MySQL database backend instead. I have successfully configured it so that when I add a new member or change a member, it changes appropriately with the database table. The problem is that I have 1500+ people who already exist within the flat file and have preferences stored in that file. I need to migrate the data from the flat file to the mySQL database so that all of the preferences are preserved. I have looked a little bit into .json files and importing the information in that manner, but I have not found a solution that works for me. Does anyone have any advice for me on this one? Thanks in advance! -Kevin -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mailman-MySQL-backend-migration-question-tp32000121p3… Sent from the Mailman - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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mails to lists are passed erroneously to cyrus
by Egon Frerich 07 Jul '11

07 Jul '11

My Postfix is on an host without a real Internet hostname. So the domain name in my main.cf is a fake: myhostname = Cup.freu.ih mydestination = Cup, $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain, localhost Mailman-lists are managed with a real domain name. In main.cf I say: virtual_alias_domains = schwach.de virtual_alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1 transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport I put 'virtual-mailman' into alias_maps too: alias_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman, hash:/etc/aliases transport contains: schwach.de mailman: In master.cf there is an entry: mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} The list is called 'v'. If I send a mail to v(a)schwach.de via my local email account mailman delivers the mail to the list members. But if I send this mail via an external email account then the mail is handled by cyrus and I get this message: verify_user(user.fetchmail) failed: Mailbox does not exist Why is the email handled by cyrus? Thanks for any help. Egon Frerich

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