Mailman 3 August 2011 - Mailman-Users

exim says 'unrouteable' on new list
by Rich Lott 10 Aug '11

10 Aug '11

Hi I have exim4 and mailman running successfully on my server. I have a working list that runs at somelistname(a)artfulrobot.com and a working web admin iface. All good. But now I want to set up a new list under a subdomain for another client. This list name does not clash with my other list, and it is does not clash with a username on the server. I set it up with this command $ newlist -e maybe.artfulrobot.com -u artfulrobot.com community I used the web iface to mass subscribe my own email address, and I got a "welcome" message. But when I try to send to the list, it bounces back. Nb. I can email someotheruser(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com and receive it at someotheruser's normal user account. I looked at the output from this command: $ exim4 -d -bt community(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com to see why it was failing. Output below. Basically, it seems that mm has not registered community(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com in data/virtual-mailman. I've read lots of postings, docs etc. but gotten nowhere. I've tried fiddling with /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py, adding things like: MTA=None (and MTA='None') add_virtualhost('maybe.artfulrobot.com','maybe.artfulrobot.com' ) POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = [ 'artfulrobot.com', 'maybe.artfulrobot.com'] Each change I've restarted MM. Tried and got the unrouteable error again. Can anyone help?! thanks... Rich --------> mailman_router router <-------- local_part=community domain=maybe.artfulrobot.com checking domains cached yes match for +local_domains cached lookup data = NULL maybe.artfulrobot.com in "+local_domains"? yes (matched "+local_domains" - cached) checking require_files file check: /var/lib/mailman/lists/$local_part/config.pck expanded file: /var/lib/mailman/lists/community/config.pck stat() yielded 0 checking "condition" search_open: lsearch "/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman" search_find: file="/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman" key="community(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com" partial=-1 affix=NULL starflags=0 LRU list: :/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman :/etc/aliases End internal_search_find: file="/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman" type=lsearch key="community(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com" file lookup required for community(a)maybe.artfulrobot.com in /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman lookup failed mailman_router router skipped: condition failure no more routers search_tidyup called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exim pid=2959 terminating with rc=2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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"No subject" archive entries found after arch
by Chad Rebuck 09 Aug '11

09 Aug '11

I'm moving my list to a new server. Generating the archive html pages from the mbox file caused 26 messages with "No subject" to show up on the Aug 2011 archive page. Most of the posts that make up these entries are in the mbox file with a date of 2002 or 2003. The html files are incomplete and contain only fragments of the original message. I didn't notice anything obviously wrong with the mbox content in the few messages I tracked down. Any suggestions on what to look for? /usr/lib/mailman/bin/arch a2-16v-list here is the output of the Aug 2011 html page : Messages sorted by: [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More info on this list... Starting: Mon Aug 1 07:08:50 CDT 2011 Ending: Sun Aug 7 13:52:35 CDT 2011 Messages: 29 [a2-16v-list] initial start problems Eric Gambon [a2-16v-list] initial start problems Steven Arguello [a2-16v-list] initial start problems Eric Gambon No subject No subject No subject No subject No subject No subject

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How is the subscriber's name used?
by Tom Browder 06 Aug '11

06 Aug '11

I think I have a working mailing list, and I just "mass" subscribed a dozen of my friends to take a spin. When I subscribed them I put their real names in the mass subscription list like this: blitz12345@gmailcom (Real Name) The Real Name shows on the admin's subscriber list, but not in the subscribers list available to the subscribers. Two questions: 1. What is the Real Name used for? 2. Can it be shown on the public subscribers list? Thanks, -Tom USAFA, CS-24, Class of 1965 Niceville, Florida, USA

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman [SOLVED (so far)]
by Tom Browder 06 Aug '11

06 Aug '11

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 14:55, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > On 8/5/2011 8:07 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > >> In my /etc/postfix/main.cf I have this: >> relay_domains = virtual-1.org, virtual-2.org > > > I am not a Postfix expert, but I'll tell you what I think. If that > doesn't solve the problem, you may need to go to a Postfix list. > > I know the postfix-to-mailman.py documentation says to put your list > domains in relay_domains, but I think that's wrong. I don't think it > normally hurts as long as you haven't specified relay_recipient_maps in > main.cf, but if you have, then if your list domains are in > relay_domains, all your list addresses need to be in > relay_recipient_maps tables. That appears to be the source of your > current problem. > > Bottom line: remove the above relay_domains entry. Thanks, Mark, I'll try that--I have to say that the docs are somewhat confusing--especially postfix... Hm, didn't work--uncommented the change and experimenting a little... Aha, I think all works now. What I did was comment out this line in /etc/postfix/main.cf: #relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman After a postfix reload I'm reading foreing subscribers on the list...and no errors noticed yet on the real host. Best regards, and thanks again for your help. Happy mailing all! -Tom

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how to include https on approval notification email
by Danny Hendrawan 04 Aug '11

04 Aug '11

Hello, I have a moderated list and on the approval notification email (see below) I'd like to access my mailman admin interface by using a secured /ssl connection ; how or where to change http://mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/list_mydomain.com to become https://mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/list_mydomain.com Thanks, Danny ===================== as list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List:list@mydomain.com From:member@gmail.com Subject: Re: [mylist] bla bla bla Reason: Post to moderated list At your convenience, visit: http://mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/list_mydomain.com to approve or deny the request. ======================

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mailman on freeBSD 8.2: getgrgid error
by Rekhesh Mohan 04 Aug '11

04 Aug '11

Hi folks, I've been fiddling with mailman 2.1.14 (from freebsd ports) on free BSD 8.2. Everything seems to be fine so far except for the web based stuff. I get the following error when I try to access the page: http://this.great.site/mailman/listinfo -------<error>-------- Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Failure to find group name for GID 80. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper to be executed as group "www", but the system's web server executed the wrapper as GID 80 for which the name could not be found. Try adding GID 80 to your system as "www", or tweak your web server to run the wrapper as group "www". -------</error>--------- This system has a www user and gid is 80 (group = www). In the first attempt, I let freebsd choose its own configure-arguments and later I tried it myself. Error remained the same. AFAIK, src/common.c is checking the GID with getgid() followed by getgrgid(). Now, my machine uses blowfish instead of md5 for passwd. getgid() is returning 80 - which is fine since i have gid(www) = 80 on my system. However, getgrgid(gid) returns null :-| I gave up my fight at that point and decided to ask for help :) I tried to figure out the behaviour of these functions with a small test code: getgrgid() returns gr_passwd = * for blowfish, and gr_passwd = x for md5. Is that an issue with mailman or am I making mistakes somewhere else in the installation? My apache config is given below (I followed the steps in installation doc.) Thanks in advance..! ---------<apache-config4mailman>---------------- ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/" Alias /pipermail/ "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public/" <Directory "/usr/local/mailman"> Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> RedirectMatch ^/mailman[/]*$ http://this.great.site/mailman/listinfo/ ---------</apache-config4mailman>----------------

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Question about moderation
by Eduardo Costa 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, It is possible and how, in a list with multiple moderators to check which of the moderators moderated message? Best Regards - -- ...................................... Eduardo Costa ...................................... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOOH/zAAoJEM0PA7cQuGW6SQUIAKHzPTFhdVQK/os3VH1nm9lJ /i0u8h0p+0/fivJDbnp1duAtTEwWmKV0ACchQ7/E8p2pbO02OR/gO/F/q0V7UGW7 jbd3j4Wiu3fO4DnzyJNh6bpjP02s0gxfkTbabCjEYBfUm4z5PgTkm93U188OmZPI 17sqYdEpKtHeEKSzOPObpaQoRGJH9w24XWI4WYiN6aRNh8ncRfmhWGnQ03Eb+36N hXGodrljNiVcsaxxVoetcxp3UK27IWlCs2cDiBij37xCTA1GMNk1L+bOMJvbuAik R6zvPHQ6zBOfQGB9JTzd75xdJ/u8QFxEf2FztZJvpz6ol1lLCQKncyp1P4I10x0= =sw+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman
by Tom Browder 03 Aug '11

03 Aug '11

Question 1: ========= Current situation: ------------------------ I have now pretty much a working solution for this situation (postfix and mailman installed with Ubuntu packages on 64-bit 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) : 1 server 1 "real" domain: realdomain.com 2 virtual domains: virtual-1.org virtual-2.org All are accessed successfully through SSL/TLS (https). Desired situation: ------------------------ I can get new lists at the virtual domains okay, but here's what I would like to do: change the mailing list virtual domains to: 2 virtual domains: lists.virtual-1.org # this is my default domain for mailman lists.virtual-2.org BUT present the lists to the users as, say, info(a)virtual-1.org I had some mixed success early on, but other problems intervened. Now that the other problems have been solved, I want to blow everything away and start over but only if the "Desired situation" is feasible: Question 2: ========= Can I also do this on the real domain: Create a new subdomain and mailing lists: lists.realdomain.com <= let postfix and mailman handle this as a virtual domain And also as desired for "Question 1," BUT present the lists to the users as, say, news(a)realdomain.com Best regards, -Tom Thomas M. Browder, Jr. Niceville, Florida USA

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Can I use /usr/sbin/postmap myself to update virtual-mailman.db?
by Ulf Dunkel 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

Hi Mark, I have moved my domains to a new server and have copied many mailing lists from the old server to the new one instead of creating them on the new server one by one. Now I see that the virtual-mailman file isn't updated for these simply copied mailing lists, but only for newly created ones. The file warns me to edit it myself, but rather have it auto-updated from the virtual-mailman.db file. If I have understood the process correctly, every time when I create a new mailing list, Mailman will add the relevant data to the virtual-mailman.db and run /usr/sbin/postmap to have the virtual-mailman file updated for Postfix. Can I do this myself on the Server console? I would really like to avoid having to create all these mailing lists again ... And - yes, they are all properly shown by list_lists and can be used in either way, but still not via the email interface. Any help is appreciated, as always. ---Ulf Dunkel

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error: Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /pipermail/grads/ on this server [SOLVED]
by Tom Browder 02 Aug '11

02 Aug '11

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 13:08, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: ... >>However, I, as a list user, cannot get access to the archives for a >>list. When I try to look at the archives through the link on the >>Welcome message I get the following: >> >> Forbidden >> >> You don't have permission to access /pipermail/grads/ on this server. >> >>I tried changing the example line in the mailman.conf file from: >> >> Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ ... >>I have searched this list for "pipermail" but see no similar problem. >> >>I'm sure I've missed a note somewhere but I'm not sure how to proceed. >> The mailman docs talk about permissions and the mailman user but >>Ubuntu installs all mailman files with root:list ownership which seems >>to work for all else. All the directories under /var/lib/mailman have >>these permissions: >> >> drwxrwsr-x 4 root list > > If that includes /var/lib/mailman/archives/private, then that's OK. > Otherwise note that /var/lib/mailman/archives/private must be o+x or > must have user:group xxx:list where xxx is the user that the web > server uses to access files. Aha, I missed the fine details of one important directory: the archives/private directory did not have these permissions: drwxrwsr-x 4 root list Instead it had these: drwxrws--- 4 root list As root I excuted chmod o+xr private and now all works as advertised! Thanks a heap, Mark. I shall file a bug with Ubuntu. Best regards. -Tom Thomas M. Browder, Jr. Niceville, Florida USA

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