Mailman 3 October 2012 - Mailman-Users

Help with Mailman
by Gotham Webmaster 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

I manage a website http://www.gothamnetworking.com that uses Mailman as it's listserv We have over 775 members, 40 groups and run about 146 separate mailing lists Once list in particular is not working and I don't know why. I could use some help. Thanks, Mitch Tobol Gotham Webmaster webmaster(a)gothamnetworking.com 631-842-4600

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Upgrade from 2.1.14-1 to 2.1.15 - Authorization failed.
by Patrick 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

Hello, I’m in the process of upgrading a mailman 2.1.14-1 installation to a 2.1.15 installation. Basically I have a 2.1.14 and 2.1.15 in their own folders and created a symbolic link to name ‘mailman’ when switching between the two. In addition I’ve centralized my ‘archives’ and ‘lists’ folders and have symbolic links in the 2.1.14 and 2.1.15 folders to share these folders. When I attempt to login to a private list using 2.1.14 I’m able to get to the list with my password. However, if I switch over to 2.1.15 I get an “Authorization failed.” error. Interestingly on my test machine I have an identical configuration, just the host name is different. And switch between 2.1.14 & 2.1.15 do not get the “Authorization failed.” error. Anyone have any idea in what I might check to resolve this error with the password? thanks, Patrick

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Archives stopped being created
by Walter Logeman 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi All I looked at the archives for an active group we have and they stopped in Julyou. The archives were set to yearly but appear to now show a monthly view. Any ideas? Cheers, Walter

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GNU Mailman, admins and passwords
by shirish शिरीष 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi all, Newbie on the list. First of all thank you for making GNU Mailman and making prospective mods. and admins life easier. Secondly, please CC me if somebody answers to this query as I have stopped mail delivery from the list (Mailman can simply deluge my inbox as it has quite some activity) as well as I am subscribed to too many lists (where also I have done the above), the idea being to limit intake wherever I can. I am also not a python geek but have played a bit with python. Am comfortable on console/terminal. Anyways, onto the query/issue. Recently on one of the mailing lists I have been upgraded to adminship on one of the mailing lists . While I understand that being an administrator means you have earned the trust of fellow admins. I also saw that all the admins share a common password for admin purposes. If one of the admins. does something naughty/mischievous thing I assume it could be found out by the IP Address and if some event escalates then do tracing of of as to who had the IP Address at that point in time. Internally I feel it *probably* uses either a cookie/token or something like that but have no idea what it does. What I want to know if administrators can have some sort of own unique passwords which Mailman can authenticate as to who took what steps ? I looked up both the archives and the wiki to see if something similar was asked before but somehow wasn't able to get any clear answers. I got the following results but they seem to be different and unsatisfactory :- https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg50419.html I also looked up the wiki but ended up none the wiser . Looking forward to help or/and direction in this regard. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

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include eml files in archive
by jdanield 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

Hello, Due to my error, I lost several month of mailing list archives. One of my subscribers sent me the hole lost files in eml format (individual mails). Is there a way to add this to the mailman archives? (at least as html pages, I could insert manually)? thanks jdd -- http://dodin.org

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Using Google Search Appliance With Mailman Archives?
by Jon Forrest 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

I'm in the process of migrating from ezmlm to mailman. So far everything is working great. I've even been able to migrate ezmlm list archives to mailman so that I can see the messages via the mailman web interface. One of the goals of this migration is to be able to use a Google Search Appliance to search the list archives. What I've found is that the archive for each list is in /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname, and in this directory are 1) a directory for each month containing the messages submitted during the month in HTML format. 2) a file for each month containing all the messages for the month in text format concatenated together. I'm trying to figure out the best way to search the archive with a GSA. I'm worried that if I search #1 I'll find what I want but it will be in HTML format which won't be very easy to read. If I search #2 I'll find what I want but I'll see the whole file, which will also contain a bunch of stuff I'm not looking for. Has anybody worked through these issues with a GSA? I'd be interested in hearing how you did it. Cordially, Jon Forrest

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List moving and renaming
by Lindsay Haisley 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

I'm both moving and renaming a customer's list. The list's current name resembles frobniz(a)lists.fmp.com. After the move, on the new Mailman installation, it will be called something like fblist(a)frobniz.com. Forwarding mail addressed to the old list to the new list address is no problem. The list administrator will announce to the subscribers that the list's name will change, but there will inevitably be subscribers who will miss the announcement and send mail to the old list address. Will Mailman on the new server reject redirected email if addressed to the old list name, even if the sender's address is in the subscriber list? If so, is there any way to get around this? -- Lindsay Haisley | "We have met the enemy and he is us." FMP Computer Services | 512-259-1190 | -- Pogo http://www.fmp.com |

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Suspend a Subscriber
by Dennis Putnam 05 Oct '12

05 Oct '12

Is there a way to suspend or otherwise prevent a subscriber from posting to a list and send a notice of same, without actually unsubscribing and officially banning them? Suppose I have a user that is abusing a list rule. I don't want to ban them yet but I want them to be forced to contact the list owner in order to be reinstated. I know I can add them to the ban list, but what happens to their subscription settings? Are they also automatically unsubscribed or do they just get a banned message when they post while the subscription information remains in tact? TIA.

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Unable to create new list
by Andreas Nitsche 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

Hello list, I have setup a mailman environment to be able to manage multiple domains. For each domain there's running a seperate mailman instance. I'm compiling mailman with the following parameters: DOMAIN=$1 MAILMANROOT="/usr/local/mailman/${DOMAIN}" USERNAME="mailman-${DOMAIN}" ./configure --prefix=${MAILMANROOT} --with-var-prefix=${MAILMANROOT} --with-mailhost=${DOMAIN} --with-urlhost=lists.${DOMAIN} --with-username="${USERNAME}" --with-groupname="${USERNAME}" --with-mail-gid=${USERNAME} There are some scripts around each mailman instance which are generated to fit on each several instance, i.e. the init script /etc/init.d/mailman-${DOMAIN} ${MAILMANROOT} is owned by mailman-${DOMAIN}:nobody and user and group writable. The webserver (httpd.itk) is running with user mailman-${DOMAIN} and group nobody, so this should fit. When I try to create a new mailinglist I hit the page which says: "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.14". When I have a look at the error log of this mailman instance I can see this error: Sep 30 12:10:36 2012 (8424) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) Sep 30 12:10:36 2012 admin(8424): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(8424): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.14 -----] admin(8424): [----- Traceback ------] admin(8424): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin(8424): main() admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(8424): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 239, in process_request admin(8424): sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 238, in create admin(8424): _update_maps() admin(8424): File "/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps admin(8424): raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(8424): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) admin(8424): [----- Python Information -----] admin(8424): sys.version = 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Sep 11 2012, 08:34:23) [GCC 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4)] admin(8424): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(8424): sys.prefix = /usr admin(8424): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(8424): sys.path = ['/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/pythonlib', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/scripts', '/usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net', '/usr/lib64/python26.zip', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/lib64/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages'] admin(8424): sys.platform = linux2 Can you tell me with which user this command gets executed? I had a look at the aliases file: -rw-rw----. 1 mailman-zaubert.net nobody 2159 30. Sep 13:33 aliases -rw-r-----. 1 mailman-zaubert.net nobody 49152 30. Sep 13:33 aliases.db I looked at the audit.log, because SELinux is enabled, but it's empty. When I try to execute the command on the command line this works perfectly without errors: su mailman-zaubert.net -c "/usr/sbin/postalias /usr/local/mailman/zaubert.net/data/aliases" --shell=/bin/bash It would be great to get any help on that. cheers Andi

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Automate Moderator Functions
by Dennis Putnam 03 Oct '12

03 Oct '12

I've seen various queries on this but nothing definitive about it being added as a feature or even a customizable mod. There are certain moderator actions that potentially could be automated. For example, I would never approve a posting from a non-member of a restricted list. It would make my moderator duties much easier if I could have mailman automatically reject or discard such posts. The same might be true for exceeding the size limit. Is this something that has been considered and rejected as a feature or is it something that is doable now that I have just not been able to find? TIA.

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