Mailman 3 December 2012 - Mailman-Users

New to Mailman (and Linux)
by Neil Carson 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Hello, I am very new to Linux and Mailman. I have openSUSE 12.2 running on a 'box' at home and I have Mailman 2.1.14 installed. I am able to create a test-list either with the web interface or via command line. Not certain if Postfix is configured correctly. My home ISP (Rogers.com) does not allow customers to run a 'mailserver' and prevents us from doing so by blocking (I believe) certain outgoing/incoming ports etc. Is there some way I can get around this restriction and actually send msgs to/from my test-list via my home set up (for now)? My ultimate goal is to replace a 'list server' (Windows based) at my place of work with Mailman running on SLES11. As stated I am very new to Linux but have many years of computing experience on `mainframe`, Netware, and Windows and I hope to come up to speed (so to speak) on Linux in a `timely` manner :) I have been reading up on Mailman on http://list.org/ and http://en.opensuse.org . Are there other good resources out on the web for Mailman? Any suggestions appreciated. I also apologize asking such `basic` questions. Thank you Neil.

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Unable to set defaults for header_filter_rules
by Mikael Jokela 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Dear Mailman-users! I would like to set a default value of header_filter_rules for new lists. It would be something like this DEFAULT_HEADER_FILTER_RULES = [('X-Spam-Flag: YES', 3, False)] The purpose would be to discard all messages that are marked as spam. I can't get this kind of default configuration working nor find any other way of doing this apart from doing this manually after creating the list. Any ideas? I'm using Mailman version 2.1.9 installed from CentOS5 RPM. Cheers, Mikael

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Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email
by Karsten Becker 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Hi there, I'm running an Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) with the repository mailman in version > ii mailman 1:2.1.13-1ubuntu0.2 Powerful, web-based mailing list manager Everything is running fine, so emails arriving at postfix get transfered nearby immediate towards mailman and vice-versa. I'm running Mailman in a multi-domain-MySQL-based setup, as we have to run a lot of different domains in our company. But as said above, this all works. The problem is, that if Mailman gets an email from Postfix, it sits down and does "something" for roundabout 20 seconds. Then it sends out the emails towards Postfix, and Postfix delivers. For normal mailing list operation this is not a problem as it sends out one bulk email out to Postfix - but when I do a mass subscription of for example 100 people, Mailman will start to send out the personalized welcome emails one after another - and will also need 20 seconds per email. So it takes 100x 20 seconds = 2000 seconds = 33 minutes till everybody gets his/her welcome email. Is this usual behaviour of Mailman to do "something" that long? The server is a powerful one with plenty of GHz and RAM. What the hell could this "something" be? :-) Following you will find my configuration file and the smtp log of mailman: /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py: > from Defaults import * > MAILMAN_SITE_LIST = 'mailman' > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' > PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private' > IMAGE_LOGOS = '/mailman/images/mailman/' > SHORTCUT_ICON = 'favicon.ico' > DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.mycompany.eu' > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.mycompany.eu' > add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) > DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en' > USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0 # Still used? > DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0 > MTA='Postfix' > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' > SMTPPORT = 10030 > POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.mycompany.eu', 'lists.myothercompany.org', 'lists.mythirdcompany.eu'] > add_virtualhost('lists.myothercompany.org', 'lists.myothercompany.org') > add_virtualhost('lists.mythirdcompany.eu', 'lists.mythirdcompany.eu') > DEB_LISTMASTER = 'postmaster(a)mycompany.eu' > DEFAULT_ARCHIVE_PRIVATE = 1 > MEMBER_PASSWORD_LENGTH = 15 > ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH = 20 > DEFAULT_LIST_ADVERTISED = No > DEFAULT_MAX_NUM_RECIPIENTS = 10 > DEFAULT_MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE = 250 # KB > DEFAULT_MAX_DAYS_TO_HOLD = 7 > DEFAULT_GENERIC_NONMEMBER_ACTION = 2 > DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 3 /var/log/mailman/smtp > Nov 27 08:00:22 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1353999601.22399.carbonmarkets(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to carbonmarkets for 1 recips, completed in 21.021 seconds > Nov 27 08:00:43 2012 (10393) <mailman.1.1353999601.22399.agriculture(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to agriculture for 1 recips, completed in 21.013 seconds > Nov 27 08:01:04 2012 (10393) <mailman.2.1353999601.22399.wimix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to wimix for 1 recips, completed in 21.007 seconds > Nov 27 08:01:25 2012 (10393) <mailman.3.1353999601.22399.out-of-pfalzburger(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to out-of-pfalzburger for 1 recips, completed in 21.006 seconds > Nov 27 08:01:46 2012 (10393) <mailman.4.1353999601.22399.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 1 recips, completed in 21.018 seconds > Nov 27 08:02:07 2012 (10393) <mailman.5.1353999601.22399.energy(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to energy for 1 recips, completed in 21.006 seconds > Nov 27 08:02:28 2012 (10393) <mailman.6.1353999601.22399.china(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to china for 1 recips, completed in 21.008 seconds > Nov 27 08:02:49 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1353999601.22399.carbonmarkets(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to carbonmarkets for 2 recips, completed in 21.007 seconds > Nov 27 08:03:10 2012 (10393) <mailman.1.1353999601.22399.agriculture(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to agriculture for 3 recips, completed in 21.005 seconds > Nov 27 08:03:31 2012 (10393) <mailman.2.1353999601.22399.wimix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to wimix for 2 recips, completed in 21.007 seconds > Nov 27 08:04:13 2012 (10393) <mailman.4.1353999601.22399.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 2 recips, completed in 21.011 seconds > Nov 27 08:04:34 2012 (10393) <mailman.5.1353999601.22399.energy(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to energy for 2 recips, completed in 21.007 seconds > Nov 27 08:04:55 2012 (10393) <mailman.6.1353999601.22399.china(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to china for 2 recips, completed in 21.006 seconds > Nov 27 09:01:20 2012 (10393) <50B47339.6040405(a)mycompany.eu> smtp to energy for 61 recips, completed in 21.124 seconds > Nov 27 09:18:43 2012 (10393) <50B4774C.1030707(a)mycompany.eu> smtp to berlinix for 101 recips, completed in 21.126 seconds > Nov 27 09:51:29 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354006267.31674.china(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to china for 1 recips, completed in 21.022 seconds > Nov 27 10:27:04 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354008402.6430.carbonmarkets(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to carbonmarkets for 1 recips, completed in 21.029 seconds > Nov 27 10:27:25 2012 (10393) <mailman.1.1354008402.6430.carbonmarkets(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to carbonmarkets for 1 recips, completed in 21.004 seconds > Nov 27 10:33:09 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354008767.9391.energy(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to energy for 1 recips, completed in 21.022 seconds > Nov 27 11:45:19 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354013097.25318.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 1 recips, completed in 21.023 seconds > Nov 27 11:49:32 2012 (10393) <mailman.14.1354013350.10391.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 1 recips, completed in 21.018 seconds > Nov 27 11:49:54 2012 (10393) <mailman.16.1354013350.10391.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 1 recips, completed in 21.815 seconds > Nov 27 11:50:18 2012 (10393) <mailman.16.1354013350.10391.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 2 recips, completed in 21.391 seconds > Nov 27 12:20:17 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354015196.1021.confix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to confix for 1 recips, completed in 21.015 seconds > Nov 27 12:21:05 2012 (10393) <mailman.0.1354015243.1152.wimix(a)lists.mycompany.eu> smtp to wimix for 1 recips, completed in 21.001 seconds > Nov 27 12:40:52 2012 (10393) <50B4A6AD.40705(a)mycompany.eu> smtp to ecologix for 123 recips, completed in 21.235 seconds Regards Karsten

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email
by Gary R. Schmidt 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

> Dec 04 09:25:15 2012 qrunner(8680): connect: ('localhost', 10030) > Dec 04 09:25:15 2012 qrunner(8680): connect: (10030, 'localhost') > Dec 04 09:25:36 2012 qrunner(8680): reply: '220 mail01.foodmz.local ESMTP Ecologic Institute ready\r\n' It looks like "localhost" is being gray-listed, or something. Cheers, Gary B-)

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OT - Mailman and Back to the Future
by Max Pyziur 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Greetings, I noticed that Mailman-users has emails archived from June 2013 and April 2024; is this a bug or a feature? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ ;-) Max Pyziur pyz(a)brama.com

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Global vs list-specific settings
by Max Pyziur 01 Dec '12

01 Dec '12

Greetings, I'm writing to verify the setting of send_reminders. For some of my disabled lists I have send_reminders yet today (the 1st of the month) I see notifications being sent out. I checked the setting for mailman, mailman's superuser, and see that send_reminders is set to 'Yes' Does the mailman send_reminders setting override individual lists' send_reminders settings. It seems that it does, but I am writing to verify this. Much thanks, Max Pyziur pyz(a)brama.com

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