Mailman 3 April 2012 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell May 8, 2024

May 8, 2024

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli Feb. 27, 2024

Feb. 27, 2024

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann Nov. 17, 2023

Nov. 17, 2023

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal Feb. 17, 2021

Feb. 17, 2021

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y Sept. 10, 2020

Sept. 10, 2020

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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what constitutes spam?
by Anne Wainwright May 19, 2012

May 19, 2012

Hi, I recently sent an invite to an unknown third party. The invite came from my mailman list, we gave full particulars of who and where we are. We specifically advise that they are not at this stage subscribed to anything and will have to follow the detailed instructions (ie confirm) if they want to join the list. The third party is in the same trade as us, and deals with the same specialities, a third party customer had given me their address in good faith. This week my ISP contacts me with an upstream request from the national backbone provider to in effect desist from sending spam. Looking at the email returned, it was to an @yahoo address, spamcop seems to have detected spam on the basis of it being a mailman message, I am not certain that it was not initiated by the recipient but the official complaint originated from yahoo it seems (who should surely know better). Subject: [196.26.208.190] Yahoo Abuse Report - FW:confirm 3a35c56b531368da533112d96a9cb24c17cf6961 As I said in my reply, this is hardly spam, I did not send it out to half a million addresses purchased on a cd. This makes a mockery of genuine spam prevention efforts when one email from a genuine address can be allowed to cause this. It I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but what can I do about this. Is this a common occurence? Are invites from mailman now considered fair game for spam detection software and humans alike? bestest Anne

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Dumb Me Tried to Update Mandriva (Again)
by Dennis Putnam May 10, 2012

May 10, 2012

As usual my attempt to update Mandriva has destroyed Mailman. This time the update failed and rather than move forward, I reverted back to the working version (2010.2). However, I must have missed something because I am getting the following error when I try to access Mailman web: Apr 28 16:07:42 2012 admin(17726): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ pr 28 16:07:42 2012 admin(17726): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(17726): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.13 -----] admin(17726): [----- Traceback ------] admin(17726): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 97, in run_main admin(17726): pkg = __import__('Mailman.Cgi', globals(), locals(), [scriptname]) admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 35, in <module> admin(17726): from Mailman import MailList admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 64, in <module> admin(17726): from Mailman import Gui admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/__init__.py", line 25, in <module> admin(17726): from Privacy import Privacy admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Gui/Privacy.py", line 28, in <module> admin(17726): from Mailman import GPGUtils admin(17726): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/GPGUtils.py", line 32, in <module> admin(17726): import GnuPGInterface admin(17726): ImportError: No module named GnuPGInterface admin(17726): sys.version = 2.7.2 (default, Dec 19 2011, 09:56:13) [GCC 4.6.1 20110627 (Mandriva)] admin(17726): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(17726): sys.prefix = /usr admin(17726): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(17726): sys.path = /usr admin(17726): sys.platform = linux2 admin(17726): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(17726): SSL_VERSION_INTERFACE: mod_ssl/2.2.22 admin(17726): SSL_CIPHER_EXPORT: false admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_Email: xxxxxxx(a)xxxxxxxx.net admin(17726): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.22 (Mandriva Linux/PREFORK-0.1mdv2010.2) admin(17726): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_A_KEY: rsaEncryption admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_ST: Georgia admin(17726): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.2.22 (Mandriva Linux/PREFORK-0.1mdv2010.2) Server at xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.com Port 443</address> admin(17726): admin(17726): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(17726): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN: /C=US/ST=xxxxxxxx/L=xxxxxxxxx/O=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/CN=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.com/emailAddress=xxxxxxx(a)xxxxxxxx.net admin(17726): SSL_CIPHER: DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_V_START: Mar 18 13:32:36 2011 GMT admin(17726): SSL_SESSION_ID: 66E6AC1408845A20EC6F56C140D2BED471A632BD7C03FC89503B0B611F1B2A18 admin(17726): SSL_CLIENT_VERIFY: NONE admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_ST: xxxxxxxxxxx admin(17726): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(17726): SERVER_NAME: xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.com admin(17726): REMOTE_ADDR: 74.176.153.13 admin(17726): SSL_CIPHER_ALGKEYSIZE: 256 admin(17726): SSL_SECURE_RENEG: true admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN: /C=US/ST=xxxxxxxx/L=xxxxxxxxx/O=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/CN=localhost/emailAddress=xxxxxxx(a)xxxxxxxx.net admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_C: US admin(17726): SSL_COMPRESS_METHOD: NULL admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_L: Loganville admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_O: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_M_SERIAL: 01 admin(17726): SERVER_ADDR: 192.168.0.3 admin(17726): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(17726): SERVER_PORT: 443 admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_Email: xxxxxxx(a)xxxxxxxx.net admin(17726): SSL_VERSION_LIBRARY: OpenSSL/1.0.0a admin(17726): PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(17726): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin.cgi admin(17726): SERVER_ADMIN: mailman-owner(a)xxxxxxxxxxx.net admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_O: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_A_SIG: sha1WithRSAEncryption admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_L: Loganville admin(17726): SCRIPT_URI: https://xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.com/mailman/admin admin(17726): SCRIPT_URL: /mailman/admin admin(17726): HTTPS: on admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_M_VERSION: 1 admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_C: US admin(17726): QUERY_STRING: admin(17726): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin admin(17726): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(17726): PERL5LIB: /usr/share/awstats/lib:/usr/share/awstats/plugins admin(17726): SSL_CIPHER_USEKEYSIZE: 256 admin(17726): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0 admin(17726): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_I_DN_CN: localhost admin(17726): REMOTE_PORT: 4811 admin(17726): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(17726): HTTP_DNT: 1 admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_V_END: Mar 17 13:32:36 2012 GMT admin(17726): SSL_PROTOCOL: SSLv3 admin(17726): HTTP_HOST: xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.com admin(17726): SSL_SERVER_S_DN_CN: xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.com admin(17726): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate admin(17726): UNIQUE_ID: T5xOCn8AAAEAAE-BQyUAAAAN I don't have a clue what needs to be restored as I didn't even know this was using GPG.

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The mailman has "log" of moderated messages?
by madsonra＠dcc.ufba.br May 1, 2012

May 1, 2012

Dear, excuse me I'm not very good with English. I wonder if the mailman stores "log" about moderation. Exactly I want to find out which moderator approved some messages that were sent to the list.

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Mailman stuck : mailmanctl dead with messages in /qfiles/in
by Jérôme May 1, 2012

May 1, 2012

Hi. Mailman somtimes gets stuck on my installation. By stuck, I mean I get no mail and no subscription notification. Until I relaunch it. I generally does not happen for a few months, but it is the second time this month. Troubleshooting --------------- http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.78+Troubleshooting-+No+mail+going+out+to… 2/ Cron/mailmanctl ps auxww| grep mailmanctl |grep -v grep -> Nothing. 7/ Locks /var/lib/mailman/locks -> /var/lock/mailman ll /var/lock/mailman total 0 8/ Logs /var/log/mailman/error : Apr 30 03:16:21 2012 mailmanctl(11685): No child with pid: 17093 Apr 30 03:16:21 2012 mailmanctl(11685): [Errno 3] No such process Apr 30 03:16:21 2012 mailmanctl(11685): Stale pid file removed. 9/ Qfiles All queues are empty, except for "virgin" and "in". /var/lib/mailman/qfiles/in: total 168 -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 7080 Apr 29 08:12 1335679972.4044311+fe0d8677ff8b10bdf54bbe785264c433c40927a2.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 19014 Apr 29 09:41 1335685311.8046031+26be5e0c4630e8401808bdf46c701a1975950cec.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 13435 Apr 29 10:20 1335687645.366998+ceda98fd4ccfb8a3cc6e8bb9d41e943e0ef8ec3f.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 14010 Apr 29 12:17 1335694670.941314+ab4263a19afa990cc933e18ccf1ab3a86ef02b84.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 26875 Apr 29 14:00 1335700832.115989+38cf9b0c8d1015392d44ec8047287b9c2da44260.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 25951 Apr 29 14:02 1335700966.2184939+cf9d490300e3064c49a587a5efc0d2678e8c0b0a.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 33409 Apr 29 21:13 1335726794.7660511+a3e33986aa07f3c56214159c2644714ebecbb1ff.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 1660 Apr 29 23:25 1335734733.107975+629b7c7b1e0fab72b5b60556c4a9590971461f3d.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 1420 Apr 30 11:43 1335778989.361089+5a2c8db1b2e83fb4c56900018fd315fce62c9aa0.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 2341 Apr 30 15:20 1335792010.1874161+1e1d6b7aff6b91871fc0253416f32f040bb3b8b3.pck -rw-rw---- 1 nobody list 3225 Apr 30 20:25 1335810323.462666+60026e952d7f0bfe526ae95fe4cb2562051c93c0.pck Debug info ---------- Last time it got stuck, I did the modification suggested here : http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/4.73+How+do+I+debug+smtp-failure+problems+… modified /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py to add self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1) Configuration ------------- Not sure this is useful, but /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py contains MTA='LocalPostfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['domain1.tld', 'domain2.tld'] I would like to figure out what is happening, therefore I don't relaunch, in case there would be some more information I could get. Any advice ? Thanks. -- Jérôme

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options to change URL structure?
by David May 1, 2012

May 1, 2012

URL architecture is a concern to me because the URL should be a permanent address and it should not be overly complex or "ugly". In a standard Mailman implementation, we see URLs similar to this: http://server.example.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/ourlist/ In a cpanel installation we see URLs similar to this: http://server.example.com/mailman/options/ourlist_server.example.com/ I'm on a cpanel implementation. We are the only domain on the VPS. It is not a shared server. Is it possible to achieve a URL structure like this (with simple list name and no cgi-bin segment)? http://ourlist.example.com/mailman/options/ourlist/

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