Mailman 3 April 2012 - Mailman-Users

Exporting archives to a text file
by Patricia A Moss 25 Apr '12

25 Apr '12

Good morning, I am using Mailman version 2.1.9; with Namazu, version 2.0.15, as my search engine. It is running on a Linux server, running RedHat 4.0 This system has been in place for quite a number of years. I am running out of space and don't have the option to upgrade my hardware. I would like to move the very old archives off of the server and into a text file, or perhaps a pdf, to clear space on my server. I can not just delete the older archives. The clients that use the mailman lists want to be able to see/read the older archives, for reference purposes; hence the need for a text or pdf file. I have been through the FAQ and searchable archives. I saw a lot of help for exporting the member/subscriber lists to a text file, but not much about the older archives themselves. Can someone tell me if this is possible and if so how. Thanks much. PATI MOSS CSC

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mailman postfix admins for hire?
by David 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Where would we be most likely to find a really good mailman/postfix Ubuntu or Debian sysadmin to do some regular part time (or full time) work? I could try Jobs on StackExchange or Reddit job postings. Are there better suggestions given our required focus on mailman and postfix? Thanks

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Mollom content filtering service?
by David 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Is anyone using the Mollom service <http://mollom.com/> with Mailman? Or does anyone know of a similar content filtering/spam service that is easy to integrate with Mailman and Postfix?

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Hotmail - Sender appears as (Unknown) and (No Subject) line
by Pearl & Dean Newsletter 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Having a problem with Mailman and Hotmail. The sender appears as (Unknown) and the subject line simply says (No Subject). All other e-mail providers are fine and show the correct Sender and Subject line. We are sending out a HTML Newsletter to a database of 15,000 people. Here is the Message Header from the Hotmail recieved e-mail (I've removed our email details, IP etc to hide our privacy): x-store-info:sbevkl2QZR7OXo7WID5ZcaZ0jeT0hTF67wC3GlgJLKuNX2JLoVmz6SozALo6vOlfS+MPHBYgjfNdgHNtL6Oj1VzhHVVE6jS52YXoHY6PIlfBFuk8eyRTUDPdrbApHJX+8v6Mqf+6hTU= Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=none (sender IP is 46.17.90.138) header.sender=E-MAIL REMOVED; dkim=none; x-hmca=none X-SID-PRA: E-MAIL REMOVED X-DKIM-Result: None X-Message-Status: n:0:n X-SID-Result: None X-AUTH-Result: NONE X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MTtHRD0xO1NDTD0w X-Message-Info: J97kXdVaP39U+I3F4qoyky3fsu0kb0eo4+2S6uZvFiMMmAPn3sBWpjtm43bSEx8uJBfBauawku0M8ahba85gims9RAWiQ1Se5C0/TaFlGEW9YMu3mTiiNr1NdRT7k/UfHBCkzx4TC2wJ2my7h3/MLA== Received: from E-MAIL REMOVED ([46.17.90.138]) by SNT0-MC2-F29.Snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900); Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:03:35 -0700 X-No-Auth: unauthenticated sender X-No-Auth: unauthenticated sender X-No-Auth: unauthenticated sender X-No-Auth: unauthenticated sender X-No-Auth: unauthenticated sender Received: from E-MAIL REMOVED (mail.pearlanddean.com [IPv6:::1]) by E-MAIL REMOVED (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0BDC22AE; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:04:43 +0100 (BST) X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from P0010101 (83-244-245-26.cust-83.exponential-e.net [83.244.245.26]) by E-MAIL REMOVED (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 67DA8BFE58 for <E-MAIL REMOVED>; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:04:31 +0100 (BST) From: <E-MAIL REMOVED> To: <E-MAIL REMOVED> Subject: Lockout, Salmon Fishing In The Yemen & more! Competition & Picture Quiz! Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <F00845961A5C487C894477B1B2CA384A(a)pd.int> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CD1F18.82B887A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0fECC4kM+iNJZaSzuBDMDrAJjp1g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-BeenThere: E-MAIL REMOVED X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: E-MAIL REMOVED List-Id: <E-MAIL REMOVED> List-Unsubscribe: <http://URL REMOVED>, <mailto:E-MAIL REMOVED?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <URL REMOVED> List-Help: <mailto:E-MAIL REMOVED> List-Subscribe: <URL REMOVED, <mailto:E-MAIL REMOVED> Sender: E-MAIL REMOVED Errors-To: E-MAIL REMOVED Return-Path: E-MAIL REMOVED X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2012 16:03:37.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[2522A390:01CD1F0F] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CD1F18.82B887A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Mailman stop working...help!
by Seun Ojedeji 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Hi, I was using mailman with postfix, then reading nice things about vpostmaster, i decided set it up to manage my user mail accounts. After setup, my mailman stopped delivering mails. Its returns with the error message below: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: > > mailman(a)lists.mydomain.net > > Technical details of permanent failure: > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient > domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further > information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server > returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 <mailman(a)lists.mydomain.net>: Recipient > address rejected: No such domain. (state 14). I have overhauled and reinstall from scratch(a very painful one as i lost my achieve) even after re-installing i still could not get my mailman to work again. How can i get this fixed please. Regards PS: I tried the proceeds in the url below with no luck: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-and-configure-mailman-with-postfix… http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Mailman_with_Postfix_and_Dovecot -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye Ekiti web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng Mobile: +2348035233535 **alt email: seun.ojedeji(a)fuoye.edu.ng** <http://idlelo.net/node/18>*

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple footers accumulating on messages as discussion progresses - how to eliminate all but the last mailman footer?
by David Andrews 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

At 03:56 PM 4/19/2012, you wrote: >I'm not sure what you call the long tail of footers that accumulates on >messages, but I would like to eliminate all prior footers (from the same >list). When the new reply goes out, it should include only one footer. BTW, >we're using full personalization and one link in the footer is like this: >%(user_optionsurl)s > >We could wrap the footer in a tag of some type if that would help. Any >suggestions? I would think this is a common request, but I can't find any >mention of it anywhere. I would love, love, love a feature that would eliminate the trail of footers from a replied-to list message. I run about 200 lists that serve the blind community, and we tend to prefer top posting. It is easier to find the new content. So getting rid of footers in chains where people reply, and reply to that ... would be great, if possible.. It would also clean up digests some, it would also be nice if digests had some kind of navigation between original messages. Dave

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Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple footers accumulating on messages as discussion progresses - how to eliminate all but the last mailman footer?
by David Andrews 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

At 11:06 PM 4/19/2012, you wrote: >On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull ><stephen(a)xemacs.org>wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:56 AM, David <dave(a)fiteyes.com> wrote: > > > > > I would think this is a common request, but I can't find any > > > mention of it anywhere. > > > > Does this actually bother your users? IME lists where this is a > > problem, it's a much smaller problem than top-posting itself, and the > > users aren't going to notice because they don't read any of the > > included content anyway. I suspect that's why nobody (that I can > > remember) has ever asked for this before. Remember that top posting isn't the evil thing that some of you think it is, in some communities. There are legitimate reasons for doing it, just like there are for bottom posting -- but you wouldn't know that in the Linux world. Dave

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Where in the code is the message footer added?
by C Nulk 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

Hello all, Some of the users at my site send/post their messages in HTML format. As we know Mailman does its best to add the list's message footer. At our site (with HTML formatted messages), the footer usually appears as an attachment (generally called Part.002 or Part.003, etc.). The message footer contains the url on how to unsubscribe. However, our users cannot seem to find the footer in one of the attachments. They think the 'Part.002' is just gibberish and don't look at it. Training/educating the users is not an option since we already do that and our users seem to be determined not to remember or understand. What I would like to do is give the message footer attachment a name. That way instead of seeing 'Part.002', the users will see 'Unsubscribe'. Maybe that will help, maybe not but it is one more step to make it a little more visible for the users. I am guessing I can use 'Content-filename: <name>' to give the attachment and name. The question is where in the code do I add the change? Thanks, Chris

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Content filtering and HTML emails. Bug?
by David 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

This may be a bug... Mailman is converting html messages to plain text even when set not to convert. And it is not an MUA issue. We just verified this using web-based Gmail on both ends. Background (from past discussions on this list): Here is the question: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-December/059517.html > Mailman default setting is to converted all HTML to plain text; > however, our users would like to send out messages with text format. > We changed the Content Filtering settings to: > Should Mailman filter the content of list traffic: Yes > Remove message attachments that don't have a matching content type: > multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative, text/plain, html > Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text: No > > The list still removes the text format even with these settings. Am I > missing a setting? Mark Sapiro's answer: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-April/050753.html > No. There is nothing you can do in Mailman to do this because it is an > MUA issue, not a message format issue per se. The same thing should be > happening if you sent the same message directly to the recipient and > not through a list. > > This is why many people recommend that list mail be plain text only. > That is a format that all MUAs understand. We see different (incorrect?) behavior: To reproduce: 1. Turn content filtering on, but set plain text conversion to NO: Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text: No 2. Send html emails through the list using web-based gmail on each end. Expected result: Receive HTML when an HTML message is sent. Actual result: Plain text messages are received. HTML messages are converted to plain text by Mailman. I believe the next step shows it is not an MUA issue. Next step: 1. Turn content filtering OFF. No need to make any other changes. 2. Send html emails through the list using web-based gmail on each end. Expected result: Receive HTML when an HTML message is sent. Actual result: It works correctly now. HTML messages are not converted to plain text by Mailman.

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multiple footers accumulating on messages as discussion progresses - how to eliminate all but the last mailman footer?
by David 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

I'm not sure what you call the long tail of footers that accumulates on messages, but I would like to eliminate all prior footers (from the same list). When the new reply goes out, it should include only one footer. BTW, we're using full personalization and one link in the footer is like this: %(user_optionsurl)s We could wrap the footer in a tag of some type if that would help. Any suggestions? I would think this is a common request, but I can't find any mention of it anywhere. Regards, Dave

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