Mailman 3 June 2012 - Mailman-Users

Encoding of the new German HTML templates
by Sebastian Hagedorn 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Hi, I just noticed that the new German HTML templates added in 2.1.15 use raw UTF-8 encoding instead of HTML entities like the older templates. I'm referring to these files in .../mailman/templates/de: -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 96 26. Jun 10:16 archidxentry.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 531 26. Jun 10:16 archidxfoot.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 741 26. Jun 10:16 archidxhead.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 18 26. Jun 10:16 archlistend.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 129 26. Jun 10:16 archliststart.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 389 26. Jun 10:16 archtocentry.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 620 26. Jun 10:16 archtoc.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 500 26. Jun 10:16 archtocnombox.html -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 471 26. Jun 10:16 emptyarchive.html That causes breakage, because the archive pages themselves are encoded in ISO-8859-1. I'm all for moving to UTF-8 entirely, but as far as I can tell that hasn't happened. I've been wrong before, but I would assume that's a bug? Cheers, Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-478-5587.:.

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Refreshing list of addresses
by Andrew Hodgson 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Hi, I want to refresh a list of email addresses in a member announcement list, I have the full names and email addresses in a text file. I am going to set bounce options such that I can remove members straight away that are bouncing. I have the following questions: If I upload this text file as is, if the member is already subscribed, will it populate the name field? If I remove all the members from the list, what is the easiest way of doing this without notifying everyone of this? Thanks. Andrew.

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Truncated messages to lists
by Nick Donaldson 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Good day everyone. We have, on rare occasions, had problems with messages to some lists being truncated. Has anyone encountered this? Nick Donaldson Help & Solutions Centre Consultant IST Help & Solutions Centre Client Services Information Services and Technology 010 Elizabeth Dafoe Library University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB. R3T 2N2 E-mail: Nick.Donaldson(a)ad.UManitoba.CA Phone: (204) 474-8649 Fax: (204) 474-7598

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI
by Bob Perez 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Mark, What does "ls -ld /var/lib/mailman/archives/private" show? Answer: "drwxr-x--- 6 root mailman 160 June 22 13:50 /var/lib/mailman/archives/private" What does "ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create" (assuming that's the correct path to the create wrapper) show? Answer: I have no directory called "create" in the /var/lib/mailman/ directory structure Thanks, Bob Perez >>> From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To:Bob Perez <BPerez(a)novell.com> CC:<mailman-users(a)python.org> Date: 6/24/2012 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI On 6/23/2012 12:33 PM, Bob Perez wrote: > > I see the error in the log with the list name I try to create ("list1", etc) > admin(10317): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list1.mbox' > > So looks like a permission problem. I ran ./check_perms and then check_db - Did not help. What does "ls -ld /var/lib/mailman/archives/private" show? What does "ls -l /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create" (assuming that's the correct path to the create wrapper) show? > I think if I do a chmod 755 -R /usr/lib/mailman/ , I may break something in mailman. Did not do this. Good. > I see that the user "mailman" in the "mailman group is the owner of the mailman files and directories, but after running the ./check_perms now "root" is the owner of the "mailman" group, however he is not a part of the group, so I made him a member - Same problem, even after restaring mailman with ./mailmanctl restart In general, the 'owner' of mailman's files doesn't matter. Everything is controlled by group permissions. All the qrunners run as group "mailman". The web CGI wrappers are supposed to be SETGID and group "mailman" so they run with effective group "mailman". -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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"Uncaught runner exception, No such file or directory" for files in "bounces" directory
by Sebastian Hagedorn 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hi, today we successfully upgraded our installation from 2.1.14 to 2.1.15. Thanks for that! I have to admit that Mailman generally works so flawlessly that I usually don't look at its logs. Because of the update, today I did. And I noticed a pattern that I don't understand. It's not new, but I only noticed it today. I've searched the list archives, but didn't find anything appropriate. Every day, we get several of these entries in the error log: 2.1.14: Jun 25 08:00:17 2012 (12651) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1340604017.5663309+f03cd934fd9f24fb5ee97e641a2bf0611a43df85 Jun 25 08:00:17 2012 (12651) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1340604017.5663309+f03cd934fd9f24fb5ee97e641a2bf0611a43df85.pck' Jun 25 08:00:17 2012 (12651) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 100, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 154, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1340604017.5663309+f03cd934fd9f24fb5ee97e641a2bf0611a43df85.pck' Jun 25 08:00:17 2012 (12651) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1340604017.5663309+f03cd934fd9f24fb5ee97e641a2bf0611a43df85 2.1.15: Jun 25 14:57:40 2012 (17936) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1340629059.7912431+ac4d5683bef1c9339cfd32283c3ae1a9b814cecb.pck' Jun 25 14:57:40 2012 (17936) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 99, in _oneloop msg, msgdata = self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 154, in dequeue fp = open(filename) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/spool/mailman/bounces/1340629059.7912431+ac4d5683bef1c9339cfd32283c3ae1a9b814cecb.pck' Jun 25 14:57:40 2012 (17936) Skipping and preserving unparseable message: 1340629059.7912431+ac4d5683bef1c9339cfd32283c3ae1a9b814cecb The messages are preserved in the "bad" directory, which is culled regularly using cull_bad_shunt. When I look at them with "dumpdb -p", I see bounces. I understand that the "usual" reason for that is an unparseable message, as the logging indicates, but in this case it's apparently a failed open command. Is that a race condition, a purely cosmetic issue, or something that should be fixed? Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn - Listmaster - RZKR-R1 (Gebäude 52), Zimmer 18 Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK) Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - Tel. +49-221-478-5587

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Error on attempt to create a List in Mailman 2.1.7-15.12.1 from Mailman Web admin UI
by Bob Perez 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

To All, When I and a customer of mine attempt to create a List in Mailman under SLES10 in the Mailman Web admin UI, we get the below error. I have look at Google and mailman-users list archives and cannot find a solution yet. NOTE: If I go to /usr/lib/mailman/bin/ and execute the command ./newlist <newListNameToCreate> IT WORKS FINE , but not under the web console..... I have Sendmail working with Mailman. Postfix is not an option. NOTE: the below info, under the Error is the Mailman error log : /var/lib/mailmain/logs/error log during the attempt to create any list from the Mailman Webpage I see the error in the log with the list name I try to create ("list1", etc) admin(10317): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list1.mbox' So looks like a permission problem. I ran ./check_perms and then check_db - Did not help. I think if I do a chmod 755 -R /usr/lib/mailman/ , I may break something in mailman. Did not do this. I see that the user "mailman" in the "mailman group is the owner of the mailman files and directories, but after running the ./check_perms now "root" is the owner of the "mailman" group, however he is not a part of the group, so I made him a member - Same problem, even after restaring mailman with ./mailmanctl restart I noticed that /var/lib/mailman/archives/private was owned by the "mailman" owner, so I did a chown -R for the owner "root" that is a member of the "mailman" group, still same error. Thanks for your assistance,Bob Perez (bperez(a)novell.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bug in Mailman version 2.1.7 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< End Error >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailman Error log called "error" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Jun 22 12:54:38 2012 admin(10317): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(10317): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.7 -----] admin(10317): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10317): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(10317): main() admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(10317): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 190, in process_request admin(10317): mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost) admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 491, in Create admin(10317): self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 402, in InitVars admin(10317): baseclass.InitVars(self) admin(10317): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 96, in InitVars admin(10317): os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) admin(10317): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list1.mbox' admin(10317): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10317): sys.version = 2.4.2 (#1, May 6 2011, 13:26:21) [GCC 4.1.2 20070115 (SUSE Linux)] admin(10317): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10317): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10317): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(10317): sys.path = /usr admin(10317): sys.platform = linux2 admin(10317): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10317): HTTP_COOKIE: mailman+admin=280200000069f4bce44f732800000062643461386231656464376339616138636339626463396363323732386139393963333030316633; ZNPCQ003-38343200=cec434a7 admin(10317): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) admin(10317): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(10317): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Server at bperez12.lab.novell.com Port 80</address> admin(10317): admin(10317): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10317): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10317): QUERY_STRING: admin(10317): CONTENT_LENGTH: 150 admin(10317): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1 admin(10317): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(10317): HTTP_REFERER: http://bperez12.lab.novell.com/mailman/create admin(10317): SERVER_NAME: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(10317): REMOTE_ADDR: 151.155.215.15 admin(10317): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10317): SERVER_ADDR: 151.155.215.12 admin(10317): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /srv/www/htdocs admin(10317): PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(10317): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(10317): SERVER_ADMIN: [no address given] admin(10317): HTTP_HOST: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(10317): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(10317): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(10317): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10317): REMOTE_PORT: 51614 admin(10317): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(10317): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10317): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Jun 22 13:06:29 2012 mailmanctl(10820): Primary start-up and shutdown script for Mailman's qrunner daemon. This script starts, stops, and restarts the main Mailman queue runners, making sure that the various long-running qrunners are still alive and kicking. It does this by forking and exec'ing the qrunners and waiting on their pids. When it detects a subprocess has exited, it may restart it. The qrunners respond to SIGINT, SIGTERM, and SIGHUP. SIGINT and SIGTERM both cause the qrunners to exit cleanly, but the master will only restart qrunners that have exited due to a SIGINT. SIGHUP causes the master and the qrunners to close their log files, and reopen then upon the next printed message. The master also responds to SIGINT, SIGTERM, and SIGHUP, which it simply passes on to the qrunners (note that the master will close and reopen its own log files on receipt of a SIGHUP). The master also leaves its own process id in the file data/master-qrunner.pid but you normally don't need to use this pid directly. The `start', `stop', `restart', and `reopen' commands handle everything for you. Usage: ./mailmanctl [options] [ start | stop | restart | reopen ] Options: -n/--no-restart Don't restart the qrunners when they exit because of an error or a SIGINT. They are never restarted if they exit in response to a SIGTERM. Use this only for debugging. Only useful if the `start' command is given. -u/--run-as-user Normally, this script will refuse to run if the user id and group id are not set to the `mailman' user and group (as defined when you configured Mailman). If run as root, this script will change to this user and group before the check is made. This can be inconvenient for testing and debugging purposes, so the -u flag means that the step that sets and checks the uid/gid is skipped, and the program is run as the current user and group. This flag is not recommended for normal production environments. Note though, that if you run with -u and are not in the mailman group, you may have permission problems, such as begin unable to delete a list's archives through the web. Tough luck! -s/--stale-lock-cleanup If mailmanctl finds an existing master lock, it will normally exit with an error message. With this option, mailmanctl will perform an extra level of checking. If a process matching the host/pid described in the lock file is running, mailmanctl will still exit, but if no matching process is found, mailmanctl will remove the apparently stale lock and make another attempt to claim the master lock. -q/--quiet Don't print status messages. Error messages are still printed to standard error. -h/--help Print this message and exit. Commands: start - Start the master daemon and all qrunners. Prints a message and exits if the master daemon is already running. stop - Stops the master daemon and all qrunners. After stopping, no more messages will be processed. restart - Restarts the qrunners, but not the master process. Use this whenever you upgrade or update Mailman so that the qrunners will use the newly installed code. reopen - This will close all log files, causing them to be re-opened the next time a message is written to them Jun 22 13:06:29 2012 mailmanctl(10820): Jun 22 13:06:29 2012 mailmanctl(10820): No command given. Jun 22 13:29:56 2012 (10942) admin.py access for non-existent list: create Jun 22 13:30:37 2012 admin(10975): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(10975): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.7 -----] admin(10975): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10975): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(10975): main() admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(10975): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 190, in process_request admin(10975): mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost) admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 491, in Create admin(10975): self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 402, in InitVars admin(10975): baseclass.InitVars(self) admin(10975): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 96, in InitVars admin(10975): os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) admin(10975): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list2.mbox' admin(10975): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10975): sys.version = 2.4.2 (#1, May 6 2011, 13:26:21) [GCC 4.1.2 20070115 (SUSE Linux)] admin(10975): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10975): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10975): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(10975): sys.path = /usr admin(10975): sys.platform = linux2 admin(10975): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10975): HTTP_COOKIE: ZNPCQ003-38343200=cec434a7 admin(10975): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) admin(10975): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(10975): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Server at bperez12.lab.novell.com Port 80</address> admin(10975): admin(10975): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10975): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10975): QUERY_STRING: admin(10975): CONTENT_LENGTH: 150 admin(10975): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1 admin(10975): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(10975): HTTP_REFERER: http://bperez12.lab.novell.com/mailman/create admin(10975): SERVER_NAME: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(10975): REMOTE_ADDR: 151.155.215.15 admin(10975): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10975): SERVER_ADDR: 151.155.215.12 admin(10975): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /srv/www/htdocs admin(10975): PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(10975): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(10975): SERVER_ADMIN: [no address given] admin(10975): HTTP_HOST: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(10975): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(10975): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(10975): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10975): REMOTE_PORT: 51812 admin(10975): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(10975): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10975): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Jun 22 13:33:52 2012 admin(11043): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(11043): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.7 -----] admin(11043): [----- Traceback ------] admin(11043): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 101, in run_main admin(11043): main() admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(11043): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 190, in process_request admin(11043): mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost) admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 491, in Create admin(11043): self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password) admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 402, in InitVars admin(11043): baseclass.InitVars(self) admin(11043): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 96, in InitVars admin(11043): os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775) admin(11043): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/list2.mbox' admin(11043): [----- Python Information -----] admin(11043): sys.version = 2.4.2 (#1, May 6 2011, 13:26:21) [GCC 4.1.2 20070115 (SUSE Linux)] admin(11043): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(11043): sys.prefix = /usr admin(11043): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(11043): sys.path = /usr admin(11043): sys.platform = linux2 admin(11043): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(11043): HTTP_COOKIE: ZNPCQ003-38343200=cec434a7 admin(11043): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) admin(11043): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create admin(11043): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.2.3 (Linux/SUSE) Server at bperez12.lab.novell.com Port 80</address> admin(11043): admin(11043): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(11043): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(11043): QUERY_STRING: admin(11043): CONTENT_LENGTH: 150 admin(11043): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1 admin(11043): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(11043): HTTP_REFERER: http://bperez12.lab.novell.com/mailman/create admin(11043): SERVER_NAME: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(11043): REMOTE_ADDR: 151.155.215.15 admin(11043): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(11043): SERVER_ADDR: 151.155.215.12 admin(11043): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /srv/www/htdocs admin(11043): PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(11043): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/create admin(11043): SERVER_ADMIN: [no address given] admin(11043): HTTP_HOST: bperez12.lab.novell.com admin(11043): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create admin(11043): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(11043): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(11043): REMOTE_PORT: 51819 admin(11043): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us,en;q=0.5 admin(11043): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(11043): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate

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Virtual Domains stopped working
by Jan Steinman 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Environment: MacOS X 10.6.8 server on Mac Mini, Mailman v2.1.14, as supplied with MacOS X. I have a main MX mail server (mail.bytesmiths.com) and a number of other domain names, all sharing the same static IP. I run my own DNS, with all domains pointing MX records to mail.bytesmiths.com. Each of these domains have one or more mailman lists that were working properly a few days ago. I added a new list to one of the domains (ecoreality.org) using the Mailman web interface. Then all my lists stopped working, with error messages like: <List_that_belongs_to_another_domain(a)bytesmiths.com>: user unknown (I thought just the new one wasn't working, until someone forwarded me the reject notice they got when they tried to post to a list.) /etc/postfix/main.cf refers to two mailman files: virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman,hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases,hash:/var/mailman/data/aliases I went into /var/mailman/data and noticed that "aliases" was newer than "aliases.db". So in what was perhaps a foolish shot in the dark, I did "postmap aliases" and "postmap virtual-mailman" to refresh the .db files, but to no avail. I can still get in the admin pages for the lists I administer, and I'm still getting subscription notifications via web sign-up, but sending out through at least several of the lists I've tried all fail. Any clues what I can do to fix this? I'm fairly competent and happy to be pointed in the right direction. Thanks! ---------------- You can't do anything about the length of your life, but you can do something about its width and depth. -- H. L. Mencken :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::

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Trying to install mm 3.0.0b1
by Lindsay Haisley 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

I sent this to the dev list and didn't get any answers. It's probably more appropriate on this list anyway. I'm trying to install mm 3.0.0b1 as per the directions in START.rst. I'm running into a bit of a problem with zc.buildout. in the bootstrap.py script. The script reports: $ python bootstrap.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg Traceback (most recent call last): File "bootstrap.py", line 254, in <module> ws.require(requirement) File "/tmp/tmp6ebmh9/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 666, in require File "/tmp/tmp6ebmh9/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 565, in resolve pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: zc.buildout==1.5.2 However; $ dpkg -l python-zc.buildout Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==================================-==================================-== ii python-zc.buildout 1.5.2-1 system for managing development buildouts I explicitly installed it! Do I need to update the mm3 package? Where do I go from here? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works if you let it" FMP Computer Services | 512-259-1190 | --- The Roadie http://www.fmp.com |

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AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled
by Terry Earley 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

We are getting pretty frustrated with AOL. Their feedback report redacts addresses, so we enabled VERP and full personalization so the "envelope" can send us the actual address. No good: Return-Path: <all-bounces+redacted=aol.com(a)discuss.fiteyes.com> To: redacted(a)aol.com Errors-To: all-bounces+redacted=aol.com(a)discuss.fiteyes.com Sender: all-bounces+redacted=aol.com(a)discuss.fiteyes.com Terry fiteyes.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled
by Russell Clemings 21 Jun '12

21 Jun '12

I'm surprised to read in this thread that the terms of service for AOL's feedback loop forbid us from using its reports to identify users. The page where you sign up for the FBL seems to say just the opposite (end of third paragraph): "We suggest using opaque identifiers for the email recipient or a custom remove link in the body of the email to help you identify the original recipient of the message." http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.FeedbackLoop.php rac

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