Mailman 3 June 2012 - Mailman-Users

I can't turn off password reminders for my users
by sweepslate 14 Jun '12

14 Jun '12

I created a list and then turned off reminders in the admin UI. Here are the relative options: umbrella_list no send_reminders off After that I've subscribed 3 mail addresses that belong to me, as a test. Checking the web preferances for each newly registered user I see that they have the reminder option turn on: "Get password reminder email for this list?". My question is, how can I turn off password reminders for all new users arriving on the list?

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Strange characters in subscriber addresses
by Nick Donaldson 14 Jun '12

14 Jun '12

Good afternoon folks. I manage a whole bunch of lists. I need to remove some subscribers from some lists but, there is a problem. When I user dumpdb to see the subscribers, some addresses have a "\r" (backslash "r") at the end. The web interface cannot remove them. Neither can the remove_members command. Does anyone know of a way to remove subscribers with backslash "r" at the end of the address? Nick Donaldson Help & Solutions Centre Consultant IST Help & Solutions Centre Client Services Information Services and Technology 010 Elizabeth Dafoe Library University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB. R3T 2N2 E-mail: Nick.Donaldson(a)ad.UManitoba.CA Phone: (204) 474-8649 Fax: (204) 474-7598

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Wiping all mailman data
by Brian T 14 Jun '12

14 Jun '12

Hi, I made some modifications to the Switchboard.py class. I think I probably broke something that caused some nonsense data to be saved, because now when I restart mailman (with /etc/init.d/mailman restart), I get the following in my error log file: Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): Traceback (most recent call last): 2 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 278, in <module> 3 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): main() 4 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner", line 238, in main 5 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): qrunner.run() 6 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 71, in run 7 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): filecnt = self._oneloop() 8 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 95, in _oneloop 9 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): files = self._switchboard.files() 10 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py", line 205, in file s 11 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): key = float(when) 12 Jun 13 22:15:29 2012 qrunner(3325): ValueError : invalid literal for float(): rcvtime I've since restored the original version of Switchboard.py, but I still get this error, making me suspect that some bad data has been saved, which is being reloaded on mailman restart and (eventually) causing this error. So, I was wondering: what do I need to do to wipe all data that mailman saves such that mailman is restored to a completely "fresh" state, as if I had just installed it? I realize this will destroy all mailing lists etc., but that's fine. Thanks! Brian

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Integrating mailman with customer data
by David 12 Jun '12

12 Jun '12

I'm reading the following thread from 2004: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-July/037954.html. I would like to solve a similar problem. This thread states: You can use the mailman command-line tools to synchronize against > external databases. There are various people on the list who have > described their work in doing so. I would encourage you to search > the archives of the mailing list. > > I've been searching the archives for the last 30 minutes and I have not come up with anything helpful. For example, I searched via Google using: site:python.org mailman sync with external database *(and others)* Can anyone suggest a better way to find examples and more help for syncing Mailman with external customer data? One thing we would like to do is efficiently update Mailman based on any feedback loop reports we get. We also get a lot of support requests for Mailman subscription changes. Our members are not technical and often they cannot unsubscribe themselves from Mailman, so we do it for them. We need to make our process of tracking all these change requests and updating Mailman more efficient. (We currently keep an Excel spreadsheet that tracks all these change requests and we update Mailman manually, but that method is *very* unsatisfactory.) Another goal is to keep a member database that gives us some reporting capabilities (e.g., ability to track percentage of unsubscribe requests, etc.). Thanks

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Regarding mailman 2.1.12 (RHEL6/CentOS6)
by Pro Green European 12 Jun '12

12 Jun '12

Hi. I'm running a mailman (v.2.1.12) mailinglist on a Centos 6.2 system. Now I'm wondering if the version 2.1.12 that comes with both RHEL6 & Centos 6 contain any known bugs that make mailman 2.1.12 vulnerable? The system is SeLinux enabled. Regards, /PGE

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Sender's address only in Reply-to field
by Jeremy Fairbrass 12 Jun '12

12 Jun '12

Hi all, I'm administering a Mailman list using version 2.1.14. It's a private list, whereby only list members can post to it ("generic_nonmember_action" is set to discard). I've just had an email sent through the list which was sent from a web service (Evite.com to be precise) by one of the list members. The email itself had an evite.com address in the From header, and had the list member's own address in the Reply-To header. The email was accepted by Mailman and delivered to all list members. This surprised me, as I assumed that a list member's address would have to be in the From field for it to be accepted, whereas in this case their address was exclusively in the Reply-To field. Is that how it's supposed to be? Surely Mailman should only consider the From field when checking the identity of the sender of the email? Is there any setting in Mailman that will make it only consider the From field and not the Reply-To field when accepting an email? Secondly, what's the best or appropriate way for me to then block emails from a third-party sender (such as Evite) which is using this Reply-To "trick", if I don't want those emails to be delivered to my list? I tried putting the full evite.com email address into the "discard_these_nonmembers" field on the [Sender filters] page, but that didn't work. When I tested it afterwards, the email from Evite.com still was accepted by Mailman and not discarded. I suppose I could add the Evite address as an actual member, and then mark that member for moderation, but I'd rather not have to do that. I feel like I ought to be able to just add the Evite address to the discard list and have it automatically discarded there, or some similar solution. The Membership List page should really only be used for actual list members. Regards, Jeremy

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Re: [Mailman-Users] smtp error - [Errno 111] Connection refused - when trying to install MM 3.0
by Danci Emanuel 12 Jun '12

12 Jun '12

When running bin/test with the -vv option everything works smoothly except for these tests: test_rejecting_pipeline (mailman.core.tests.test_pipelines.TestPostingPipeline)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/core/pipelines.py:73: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 message_id, pipeline_name, handler.name, error.message)) /usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/app/bounces.py:84: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 notice = _(error.message) test_rfc2369_headers (mailman.core.tests.test_pipelines.TestPostingPipeline) test_crash_event (mailman.core.tests.test_runner.TestRunner)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/core/tests/test_runner.py:84: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(event.error.message, 'borked') test_one_precedence_header (mailman.email.tests.test_message.TestMessage) test_bad_action (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:209: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'bad action') test_dispose_bounce (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:92: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'rejecting') test_dispose_discard (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:80: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'discarding') test_dispose_forward (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:112: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'forwarding') test_dispose_non_preservable (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:163: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'not preserved') test_dispose_preservable (mailman.handlers.tests.test_mimedel.TestDispose)/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/handlers/tests/test_mimedel.py:185: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 self.assertEqual(error.message, 'preserved') and the error that I was saying about appears here: Running mailman.testing.layers.SMTPLayer tests: Tear down mailman.testing.layers.LMTPLayer in 0.009 seconds. Set up mailman.testing.layers.SMTPLayer Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/zope.testrunner-4.0.4-py2.6.egg/zope/testrunner/runner.py", line 380, in run_layer setup_layer(options, layer, setup_layers) File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/zope.testrunner-4.0.4-py2.6.egg/zope/testrunner/runner.py", line 672, in setup_layer layer.setUp() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/testing/layers.py", line 254, in setUp cls.smtpd.start() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/testing/mta.py", line 197, in start QueueController.start(self) File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/lazr.smtptest-1.3-py2.6.egg/lazr/smtptest/controller.py", line 69, in start smtpd = self._connect() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/lazr.smtptest-1.3-py2.6.egg/lazr/smtptest/controller.py", line 60, in _connect smtpd.connect(self._server.host, self._server.port) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/smtplib.py", line 295, in connect self.sock = self._get_socket(host, port, self.timeout) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/smtplib.py", line 273, in _get_socket return socket.create_connection((port, host), timeout) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 514, in create_connection raise error, msg error: [Errno 111] Connection refused Thanks again for you help! Emanuel Danci ________________________________ From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: Danci Emanuel <danci_emanuel(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] smtp error - [Errno 111] Connection refused - when trying to install MM 3.0 On 6/11/2012 10:29 AM, Danci Emanuel wrote: > > I have opened the port and also I made sure that it is not used, > but I get the same error. What is the exact test that fails. If you don't see it, run bin/test with the -vv option. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Fw: smtp error - [Errno 111] Connection refused - when trying to install MM 3.0
by Danci Emanuel 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Thanks for the reply! I have opened the port (9025) and also I made sure that it is not used, but I get the same error. Any other ideas? Emanuel Danci ________________________________ From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> To: Danci Emanuel <danci_emanuel(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "mailman-users(a)python.org" <mailman-users(a)python.org> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] smtp error - [Errno 111] Connection refused - when trying to install MM 3.0 On 6/11/2012 6:15 AM, Danci Emanuel wrote: > > I know that has to do something with the smtp server, > but I do not know exactly how to solve it, so any feedback > is welcome! The test is trying to set up a "fake" MTA to be the MTA side of an SMTP connection. The fake MTA is trying to open a socket to listen and the connection is refused. I think it is trying to listen on port 9025. Either something else is already using that port or it is being blocked. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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smtp error - [Errno 111] Connection refused - when trying to install MM 3.0
by Danci Emanuel 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Hello everyone! I am working on configuring MM 3.0 on my machine using these instructions - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/3.0/view/head:/src/mail… and when I run the bin/test command (line 34), when running the 'mailman.testing.layers.SMTPLayer tests' I get the following error: 'error: [Errno 111] Connection refused'. This is the complete error message: Running mailman.testing.layers.SMTPLayer tests: Tear down mailman.testing.layers.LMTPLayer in 0.009 seconds. Set up mailman.testing.layers.SMTPLayer Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/zope.testrunner-4.0.4-py2.6.egg/zope/testrunner/runner.py", line 380, in run_layer setup_layer(options, layer, setup_layers) File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/zope.testrunner-4.0.4-py2.6.egg/zope/testrunner/runner.py", line 672, in setup_layer layer.setUp() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/testing/layers.py", line 254, in setUp cls.smtpd.start() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/src/mailman/testing/mta.py", line 197, in start QueueController.start(self) File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/lazr.smtptest-1.3-py2.6.egg/lazr/smtptest/controller.py", line 69, in start smtpd = self._connect() File "/usr/local/mm3/mailman/eggs/lazr.smtptest-1.3-py2.6.egg/lazr/smtptest/controller.py", line 60, in _connect smtpd.connect(self._server.host, self._server.port) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/smtplib.py", line 295, in connect self.sock = self._get_socket(host, port, self.timeout) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/smtplib.py", line 273, in _get_socket return socket.create_connection((port, host), timeout) File "/usr/lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 514, in create_connection raise error, msg error: [Errno 111] Connection refused I know that has to do something with the smtp server, but I do not know exactly how to solve it, so any feedback is welcome! Thanks in advance for your help! Emanuel Danci

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Off Topic - Apache Config Help Needed
by Dennis Putnam 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

My apologies for this off topic post but my attempts to get an Apache config issue resolved has garnered zero replies on the Apache forum and others. I am hoping there is someone here that is quite knowledgeable with Apache configuration willing to help me off list. Thanks.

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