Mailman 3 November 2013 - Mailman-Users

Mailman 2.1.16 release.
by Mark Sapiro 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

FYI, I will be releasing 2.1.16rc1 in a few days with a target of a final release in early September. I believe the release will be very solid and stable. The main purpose of the candidate release is to expose any i18n changes so that translators can submit any updates and get them in the final release. There are a few new features, contributed programs, i18n changes and bug fixes, all of which will be announced when the candidate is released. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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problems with bounce processing
by Christopher Adams 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

Hello, I am having some problems with bounce processing working correctly. If I set a list so that a max bounce score < 1 ( .1 in this case). So, the expectation is that the subscriber's account will immediately be tagged as 'No Mail" by Bounce (B). That is not happening. In addition, the bounce logs are quite a bit leaner than I would expect and the bounces don't seem to be showing up there. Can someone point me in the right direction? I have checked the cron and list settings and can't seem to resolve this. Stale users are not being marked disabled and are not getting unsubscribed. -- Christopher Adams adamsca(a)gmail.com

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unable to start Mailman
by c cc 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

Hi, I just moved our mailman to a new server, but I can't start mailman--I keep getting the following message: Starting mailman: Site list is missing: mailman I do have a list named mailman moved over, and have moved over about 30 lists. Does anyone have any idea? Thanks! Charles

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Reducing false positives with spam markings with Gmail, etc.
by Steven Clift 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

Has this been a growing issue with Mailman served lists? Articles like this sort of explain to rougher territory for legit email generators: http://bit.ly/1hhDQo6 We actually use the open source GroupServer.org package (a cousin to Mailman) and if this is a growing problem, we need some sort of defense network. If it is not a growing problem with Mailman lists, then what are you doing right!? (One factor for us is that we do have a lot of users who post via the web interface, which Gmail doesn't seem to like.) Thanks, Steven Clift E-Democracy.org

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Mailman cannot deliver email to a particular domain
by Hung Phan 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

We have a particular issue with Mailman (more of an exim issue actually) cannot delivers email to our canby.k12.... domain. Emails send to this domain come back with this error (-53): retry time not reached for any host. Other emails went out OK. When we run the exim -d -M message_ID, here is a portion of the log file: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remote deliveries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------> csdadmin(a)canby.k12.or.us <-------- search_tidyup called changed uid/gid: remote delivery to csdadmin(a)canby.k12.or.us with transport=remote_smtp uid=93 gid=93 pid=15280 auxiliary group list: <none> set_process_info: 15280 delivering 1VitQf-0003yJ-96 using remote_smtp remote_smtp transport entered csdadmin(a)canby.k12.or.us checking status of canby.k12.or.us locking /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile locked /var/spool/exim/db/retry.lockfile EXIM_DBOPEN(/var/spool/exim/db/retry) returned from EXIM_DBOPEN opened hints database /var/spool/exim/db/retry: flags=O_RDONLY dbfn_read: key=T:canby.k12.or.us:10.30.XXX.XX dbfn_read: key=T:canby.k12.or.us:10.30.XXX.XX:1VitQf-0003yJ-96 no message retry record canby.k12.or.us [10.30.192.16] status = usable 10.30.XXX.XX in serialize_hosts? no (option unset) delivering 1VitQf-0003yJ-96 to canby.k12.or.us [10.30.XXX.XX] (csdadmin(a)canby.k12.or.us) set_process_info: 15280 delivering 1VitQf-0003yJ-96 to canby.k12.or.us [10.30.XXX.XX] (csdadmin(a)canby.k12.or.us) set_process_info: 15279 delivering 1VitQf-0003yJ-96: waiting for a remote delivery subprocess to finish The 10.30.xxx.xx is a masked IP to protect our DNS service. Our domain is canby.k12... while our email is canby.k12... and hosted by an external provider. According to the log file, it seems that Mailman thinks canby.k12... domain is hosted at 10.30.xxx.xx, which is our internal DNS service. Is there a tool for us to trace the email sending route? We suspect it is the DNS setting but need more info to determine where does it stop. Do we need an MX record, A record or something else in our DNS service so Mailman not try to connect to this DNS server and end up failing? We can post the exim config file if needed. Thank you very much for advice,

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Block calendar invites to list
by francis picabia 19 Nov '13

19 Nov '13

We have an issue where sometimes a person creates a calendar item for an event, and canceling the item causes email to be delivered to the list. It seems the solution could be looking at MIME header tags indicating it is a meeting invite, and we could block all emails containing: ^Content-Type: text/calendar Placing that in Spam Filter rule does not capture the email, likely because it isn't in the top header section, but within the MIME encoded sections. Does this problem have a known solution? Google didn't find it and I don't see "text/calendar" in my archives of the mailman mailing list.

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Mailman 2.1.17
by Mark Sapiro 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Since the release of Mailman 2.1.16 last month, there have been some i18n updates, a new feature affecting which headers are kept in posts to anonymous lists and a few bug fixes. One of these bugs was introduced in 2.1.16 and is fairly serious although it only affects lists with defined topics. See <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251495>. For this reason, I plan to release Mailman 2.1.17 in about a week. If there are any i18n changes or other things that should go in 2.1.17, please get them to me before next weekend. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Mailman Qrunner process memory hungry
by Daniel Galambos 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

Hi, I recently upgraded a maillist server from Debian Squeeze to Wheezy. We had no problem with it until the upgrade. In 1-2 weeks mailman's OutgoingRunner and BounceRunner processes eat all the memories and a lot of swap. The box has 1,5GB RAM and 2G swap. Mailman version is: 1:2.1.15-1 There are 2 lists with around 40k addresses with one letter per week, the other lists are small. Can you help me why are the qrunner processes eat all the memory, and what can I do against it? I don't believe that the solution is to write a cron job to restart periodically. thanks, Dancsa

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: not workng as expected.
by Roel Wagenaar 15 Nov '13

15 Nov '13

L.S. Mailman version 2.1.15-1 Debian Wheezy My /etc/procmailrc is decoding Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 headers as standard rule forall incoming mail. Funny thing happens when filtered mailis beiing resend by Maiman, it encode the base64 part again, is there an option to prevent this? I don't seem to beable to find it. As a test case I havemade a copy recipy tgat make procmail send a copy of all mail to Mailman to the same server where the list-messages go to, these copies are not encoded. Funny. -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get.

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Mailman is rewriting Message-Id
by Roel Wagenaar 14 Nov '13

14 Nov '13

L.S. As an experiment I have set up a read-only maillist with the help of these notes: http://whoopis.com/howtos/mailman-readonly-list.php Seems to work fine, unfortunatily mailman is rewriting the Message-Id of the injected emails. >From info on the web I was led to believe this should not happen, however I can not find a config option to overrule this behaviour. Is it save to alter /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Message.py so that the section: if not self.has_key('message-id'): self['Message-ID'] = Utils.unique_message_id(mlist) is changed into: if not self.has_key('message-id'): self['List-Message-ID'] = Utils.unique_message_id(mlist) Or will this create more problems than it solves? Mailman is running on a dedicated virtual host, Debian 7 -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? What happens if you get scared half to death twice?

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