Mailman 3 April 2013 - Mailman-Users

Owner and/or moderator not being notified of held message
by Mike Beaty April 5, 2013

April 5, 2013

I have RTFM and have done searches, but have been unable to find the solution. I'll try to be brief and include answers to questions asked of those with similar issues in the past. I have had mailman 2.1 installed since 2005 and it has been working fine -- until recently. Now, I'm not notified when a post is held for moderation. I may get a notice a day to several days later that I have moderator request(s) waiting. . Messages not held for moderation are delivered without delay . Issues seem to be related to messages held for moderator approval . Lists have the *admin_immed_notify* set to 'yes'. . The held messages do not appear in the web admindb interface . They also do not show up in the 'vette' log . cron/checkdbs runs every morning at 8 am. . Messages are held in ~mailman/data/heldmesg-listname-###.txt . Email sent to listname-owner(a)domain.com is successfully delivered. . Mailman version: 2.1 . python-2.3.2 . Postfix 2.1.4 . Solaris 8 10/01 s28s_u6wos_08a SPARC (yes, I know) . Built from http://www.list.org/download.html back in the day Any pointers would be most welcome. Thanks in advance, Mike

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by Javad Hoseini April 4, 2013

April 4, 2013

Javad Hoseini انجمن پژوهشي آسيب هاي بينايي (راوي) Research Association for Visual Impairments www.IranRAVI.com

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Some Approvd messages don't get broadcasted
by franc＠library.iisc.ernet.in April 4, 2013

April 4, 2013

Hi, We have been using the Mailman software for almost 14 years now. At present, we are on ver 2.1.12 / RH Fedora 9 OS. I'm the moderator of a discussion list, which was started almost 2 decades ago. There are more than 7K members on the list. Off and on, I have been experiencing the following issue: Some of the approved messages, doesn't get broadcasted. They do get archived, though. One such recent message is accessible at http://ncsi.iisc.ernet.in/pipermail/lis-forum/2013-March/014786.html I have noticed that messages that contain non-ascii chars (typically, content copied and pasted directly from a word processor) exibit such a behaviour. When such messages are edited (removal on non-ascii) and forwarded to the list by the list moderator they do get broadcasted. I have also noticed that many of the postings that contain non-ascii chars do get broadcasted upon approval. Could you pl let me know what is it that causes such a behaviour and how do we overcome it. Thanks for your time and help. - Francis JRD Tata Library, IISc, Bangalore, India -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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accept not accepeted
by jdd April 4, 2013

April 4, 2013

Hello, I have a list of mail adresses in accept_these_nonmembers filter but mail coming from these people do not reach the list, but are sent to moderation what do I have to do? thanks jdd NB: version 2.1.14 -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115

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Messages not arriving - deep into filtering and delivery
by Drew Tenenholz April 4, 2013

April 4, 2013

All -- How is the unique message ID for an outbound message created? I'm seeing a differences in the domain label attached to outgoing messages, and I wonder if this is preventing mail from arriving to a particular (and maybe other) users. One of my users is having trouble receiving mail from a couple of lists. She gets mail from a couple other lists ont he same server, so we're trying to figure out what the problem is. The current prime suspects are outbound filtering on the network where the server is located, or inbound filtering a tthe ISP (above the user's account, since nothing is going into her 'spam' mailbox). This is a concern, since she is a principal contributor to our announce-only list (so is paying very close attention to mail sent in and mail received), and it may indicate that messages from this server (or specific lists) are being blocked, which would have an effect on other subscribers. I've been through the mailman logs and the MTA logs, and I can see that we are, indeed sending mail to her address. It is just not arriving. I wonder if the following has anything to do with it. So, in doing all of this analysis, I came accross something odd. Two Mesages that DID ARRIVE look like this in my /var/log/maillog: Mar 31 21:01:31 promedmail postfix/cleanup[32767]: 27A9F758035: message-id=<5158a425.6590700a.0879.ffffb894(a)mx.google.com> Mar 31 21:01:31 promedmail postfix/qmgr[4400]: 27A9F758035: from=<promed-fra-bounces(a)promedmail.org>, size=14135, nrcpt=311 (queue active) ... Mar 31 21:01:32 promedmail postfix/smtp[307]: 27A9F758035: to=<pollackmp(a)mindspring.com>, relay=tummms.chboston.org[134.174.12.42]:25, delay=1.2, delays=0.73/0.07/0.04/0.37, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 1ayt400cs0-1 Message accepted for delivery) and Apr 2 02:29:52 promedmail postfix/cleanup[6635]: 54981758035: message-id=<515A428B.50808(a)gmail.com> Apr 2 02:29:52 promedmail postfix/qmgr[4400]: 54981758035: from=<promed-eafr-bounces(a)promedmail.org>, size=8554, nrcpt=480 (queue active) ... Apr 2 02:29:52 promedmail postfix/qmgr[4400]: 54981758035: from=<promed-eafr-bounces(a)promedmail.org>, size=8554, nrcpt=480 (queue active) while messages that DID NOT ARRIVE all sort of look like this: Mar 30 04:00:35 promedmail postfix/cleanup[18138]: ACCE0758034: message-id=<201303300400.r2U402Tx030401(a)healthmap.chip.org> Mar 30 04:00:35 promedmail postfix/qmgr[4400]: ACCE0758034: from=<promed-daily-update-bounces(a)promedmail.org>, size=9316, nrcpt=500 (queue active) ... Mar 30 04:00:36 promedmail postfix/smtp[18143]: ACCE0758034: to=<pollackmp(a)mindspring.com>, relay=tummms.chboston.org[134.174.12.42]:25, conn_use=8, delay=2.1, delays=1.1/0.46/0/0.55, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 1b42w6x590-8 Message accepted for delivery) OK, if you've gotten this far, you'll see that the message-id ends in either mx.google.com or gmail.com (which are popular and common, and go through) and failing messages end in my specialized domain healthmap.chip.org. Is this the sort of thing that causes a problem with delivery? Are we maybe missing some sort of PTR records in the DNS? That is fixable, but I don't understand why some messages get the 'special' domain and others do not. Thanks for any help you can offer, Drew Tenenholz

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Subscription Requests -- three questions
by Dean Suhr April 3, 2013

April 3, 2013

Greetings, A couple of quick questions about Subscription Request on the List Admin page: 1) Is there a way to sort the Subscription Requests from newest to oldest? We approve each request and sometimes we have quite a few pending as we reach out to folks for clarification as to their eligibility to join closed lists. It would be good to see new requests at the top. 2) Can the date of an Admin Request become part of the display? Again, I am happy to modify a file in my install if you can point me to the correct one. What is the field name for the date of a request? 3) I would like to trim the text in the "name" filed to display only the first 50 characters or so. Is there a file I can modify to make this happen? We use the Name field for the subscriber to share a brief introduction and when the field is wide the admin displays scroll off the right side of screen (too wide). Maybe these can become feature requests as well. Thanks for your help, Dean -- What is MLD?: http://mldfoundation.org/awareness-video.html

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Setting a specific list member to read-only
by Attac München - Postmaster April 3, 2013

April 3, 2013

Hi all, I could need some help with a task I haven't seen covered in the FAQ or by a Google search: I'd like to temporarily block a member of a list from posting messages. This member is already set to "moderated" so I can reject/discard his mails manually. I cannot ban him entirely because he is entitled to read the list still by our community rules. Is there a way I can have his mails automatically rejected or discarded to make him a read-only member? I'd need something like a inbox filter rule for this specific list member's address, i.e. blacklist his postings without removing him from the roster. Thanks for any hints, Hagen Pfaff postmaster(a)attac-m.org

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Mountain Lion server trouble
by Allan Herman April 1, 2013

April 1, 2013

I tried the instructions on http://www.livetime.com/mountain-lion-mailman-mailing-list/ to install mailman on 10.8 server, but have hit a snag. The build seemed to go perfectly, but the change to the httpd_server_app.conf file breaks apache. Previously, the OS X wiki service was working properly, but after the change, the system log shows apache failing to launch and a failed spawn every 10 seconds. When I comment out the change to httpd_server_app.conf, everything is back to normal. Help? The change to httpd_server_app.conf is: Include /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-mailman.conf The content of /private/etc/apache2/extra/httpd-mailman.conf is: # Config file for linking the mailman mailing list manager to MacOSX Server Web Server. # ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/" Alias /pipermail/ "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public/" Alias /icons/ "/usr/local/mailman/icons/" <Directory "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public/"> Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews Indexes AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> Allan

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Documenting a list-specific change
by Drew Tenenholz April 1, 2013

April 1, 2013

All -- I hope this is simple. I changed the preferred_language for a list via the admin web interface last week, and some downstream processes are no longer working. Before I blame the change in the list for the failure, I need to know rather precisely when I made that change (i.e. Monday vs. Thursday). Is there a simple way to figure this out? -- Drew Tenenholz

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