Mailman 3 June 2013 - Mailman-Users

trouble to send out emails
by J Gao June 24, 2013

June 24, 2013

Hello, I need some help here. I am building a new mail server to replace our old one. I installed postfix, courier, MailScanner on the Centos 6.4. The last I installed mailman v3 and I'm having trouble to make it work. Our old email server has almost same setup, only that server is built 3 years ago with mailman v2. On the new server, I setup some mail list, and transfer subscriber account from our old server. The I test it sending a email to the list. Here is the maillog onthe new server: ------------------------------------ Jun 21 16:32:47 szeta postfix/smtpd[29323]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jun 21 16:32:47 szeta postfix/smtpd[29323]: 7D76E825BA: client=localhost[127.0.0.1], sasl_method=LOGIN, sasl_username=jgao(a)my-domain.com Jun 21 16:32:47 szeta postfix/cleanup[29334]: 7D76E825BA: hold: header Received: from szeta.my-domain.co (localhost [127.0.0.1])??by szeta.my-domain.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7D76E825BA??for <sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com>; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) from localhost[127.0.0.1]; from=<jgao(a)my-domain.com> to=<sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<szeta.my-domain.com> Jun 21 16:32:47 szeta postfix/cleanup[29334]: 7D76E825BA: message-id=<446473f75a3499b515b007856debce2b(a)my-domain.com> Jun 21 16:32:49 szeta MailScanner[29315]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 1277 bytes Jun 21 16:32:49 szeta MailScanner[29315]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Jun 21 16:32:50 szeta MailScanner[29315]: Spam Checks: Starting Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta MailScanner[29315]: Requeue: 7D76E825BA.A7BE0 to 7DAA4825BE Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta MailScanner[29315]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/qmgr[29297]: 7DAA4825BE: from=<jgao(a)my-domain.com>, size=577, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta MailScanner[29315]: Deleted 1 messages from processing-database Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/virtual[29352]: 7DAA4825BE: to=<sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com>, relay=virtual, delay=6.2, delays=6.1/0.06/0/0.08, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com") Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/cleanup[29334]: B3566825BB: message-id=<20130621233253.B3566825BB(a)szeta.my-domain.com> Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/qmgr[29297]: B3566825BB: from=<>, size=2859, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/bounce[29354]: 7DAA4825BE: sender non-delivery notification: B3566825BB Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta postfix/qmgr[29297]: 7DAA4825BE: removed ------------------------------------ I see here: Jun 21 16:32:53 szeta *postfix/virtual*[29352]: 7DAA4825BE: to=<sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com>, relay=virtual, delay=6.2, delays=6.1/0.06/0/0.08, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (*unknown user: "sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com"*) Then I got a auto response from mailman say the deliver is failed. When I compare with the old server. I see it looks different when postfix relay the mail: [root@zeta log]# grep 04CD480D3 maillog Jun 21 10:00:05 zeta MailScanner[30548]: Requeue: B8C218070.A97C1 to 04CD480D3 Jun 21 10:00:05 zeta postfix/qmgr[24123]: 04CD480D3: from=<jgao(a)my-domain.com>, size=1102, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jun 21 10:00:06 zeta *postfix/local*[1633]: 04CD480D3: to=<sjv-dev(a)zeta.my-domain.com>, orig_to=<sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com>, relay=local, delay=4.6, delays=4.3/0.01/0/0.28, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent *(delivered to command: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post * =============================================== Here is some of the settings related: (I'm using virtual domain/users with mysql) /etc/postfix/main.cf: virtual_alias_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf, mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_email2email.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_aliases.cf /etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_aliases.cf: user = mail_admin password = my_passwd dbname = mail query = SELECT forw_addr FROM mxaliases WHERE alias='%s' hosts = 127.0.0.1 /etc/aliases: # STANZA START: sjv-dev # CREATED: Wed Aug 11 09:10:34 2010 sjv-dev: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post sjv-dev" sjv-dev-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin sjv-dev" sjv-dev-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces sjv-dev" sjv-dev-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm sjv-dev" sjv-dev-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join sjv-dev" sjv-dev-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave sjv-dev" sjv-dev-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner sjv-dev" sjv-dev-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request sjv-dev" sjv-dev-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe sjv-dev" sjv-dev-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe sjv-dev" # STANZA END: sjv-dev mysql> select * from mxaliases; +---------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ | alias | forw_addr | +---------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ | mailman(a)my-domain.com | mailman(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-admin(a)my-domain.com | mailman-admin(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-bounces(a)my-domain.com | mailman-bounces(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-confirm(a)my-domain.com | mailman-confirmt(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-join(a)my-domain.com | mailman-join(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-leave(a)my-domain.com | mailman-leave(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-owner(a)my-domain.com | mailman-owner(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-request(a)my-domain.com | mailman-request(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-subscribe(a)my-domain.com | mailman-subscribe(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | mailman-unsubscribe(a)my-domain.com | mailman-unsubscribe(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-admin(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-admin(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-bounces(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-bounces(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-confirm(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-confirmt(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-join(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-join(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-leave(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-leave(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-owner(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-owner(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-request(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-request(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-subscribe(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-subscribe(a)szeta.my-domain.com | | sjv-dev-unsubscribe(a)my-domain.com | sjv-dev-unsubscribe(a)szeta.my-domain.com | +---------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ I'm not sure what cause the mail delivery failed. Please help. Thanks a lot. J Gao -- __ _|==|_ ('')__/ >--(`^^') (`^'^'`) `======'

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fixing a "reordered" archive
by Matthew Needham June 18, 2013

June 18, 2013

A couple of weeks ago I moved all of my mailing lists to a new subdomain. So far, everything has worked great, but I've now discovered that the archive message numbering has changed. For example, I'm referring to the numbers "006782" at the end of a URL like http://lists.hdfgroup.org/pipermail/hdf-forum_lists.hdfgroup.org/2013-May/0…. I believe that this happened because after the list was first created in mailman (in 2009), older archives were added using "arch <listname> <older.mbox>. My hypothesis is that if I were able to separate the current mbox into the messages that existed before older.mbox was archived, and those that were added afterwards, I could then rebuild the archive in the original order so that the message numbering would be preserved. As best as I can tell, there's no way for me to determine which messages were in the archive before older.mbox was added. Is there a way? Alternatively, is these a better way to preserve all of the links that are now sitting in Google, various third party archives, sundry word documents, and user mailboxes? Or is this a fool's errand I should abandon posthaste? In case it helps, before migrating the lists I made tarballs of everything, so I still have access to the archives before they were rebuilt. Thanks. -- Matthew Needham The HDF Group 1800 South Oak Street, Suite 203 Champaign, IL 61820 217-531-6110 mneedham(a)hdfgroup.org

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Emails with implicit address are trapped
by Javad Hoseini-Nopendar June 17, 2013

June 17, 2013

Hello I sometimes need to send an email to various mailing lists at a time. The owner of one of the mailing lists asked me to put all the addresses in BCC, but when I put the address of my own mailing list in BCC, my email to the group does not go directly to the group, but it requires moderator's approval. I want the emails with implicit address to go directly to this mailing list. How can I do that? Javad Hoseini

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IP blacklisted by at&t
by Jason Fayre June 17, 2013

June 17, 2013

Hi, This may not be strictly on-topic for this list, but I'm getting extremely frustrated and am hoping someone can give me some ideas. We moved our mailman server to a VPS with a new IP address. After the move, our IP has been blacklisted by AT&T. We had some DNS trouble initially, and this may be why. I've submitted the form that at&t tells you to in order to get your IP removed from the blacklist. I then get a response back saying that the IP is not blacklisted. However, I've got recent bounce messages saying we are. If I try and telnet to at&t's mail servers from the mailman server, I get rejected because of a blacklisted Ip. The IP they are saying is blacklisted is the same one I submitted on there web form. Does anyone have any strategies in dealing with at&t? I would love... god forbid... to actually talk to someone in their postmaster team about this. We host around 200 mailing lists for the National Federation of the Blind. Some of the lists are fairly high traffic. We are not sending out spam. Any help or suggestions would be apreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Partial non-delivery
by NinuxLive June 15, 2013

June 15, 2013

mailman-users-request(a)python.org ha scritto/skribis/ameandika/wrote, Il 12/06/2013 18.39: > Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Partial non-delivery Thanks, Nino -- IL GALATEO PERDUTO DELLE EMAIL: http://www.vessella.it/galateo.htm http://www.vessella.it (italiano, esperanto, kiswahili, english) http://www.changamano.org (Iniziative di solidarietà per la Tanzania) http://www.lernado.it (Articoli di quotidiani della Tanzania, Corso di lingua swahili, Corso di lingua esperanto, Vocabolario esperanto-italiano, Jifunze lugha ya Kiesperanto, Kamusi ya Kiesperanto) Qualsiasi utilizzo non autorizzato del presente messaggio e dei suoi allegati è vietato e potrebbe costituire reato, come dice il Garante per la protezione dei dati personali, "inviare e-mail pubblicitarie senza il consenso del destinatario è vietato dalla legge. Se questa attività, specie se sistematica, è effettuata a fini di profitto si viola anche una norma penale e il fatto può essere denunciato all'autorità giudiziaria. Sono previste varie sanzioni e, nei casi più gravi, la reclusione." Opinioni, conclusioni o altre informazioni riportate nel messaggio potrebbero essere dovute a modifiche non autorizzate o danneggiamenti e il mittente non se ne assume alcuna responsabilità.

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Unsubscribe queue resend to patron after the email was subscribed
by Hung Phan June 15, 2013

June 15, 2013

Hello, Previously, we set our mailing list to do 2-steps unsubscribe (email confirmation). We have a patron, who was unsubscribe from our mailing list on Mar 1st. The subscribe log has the entry (delete test(a)web-ster.com; email confirmed). On May 6th, the patron then received an email states that the unsubscribe didn't go through due to invalid confirmation string. We search the list and couldn't find the patron listed anymore. How do we check and clear pending queues so patrons wont receive these notices again? Thank you, Here is the bounce email message: The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Invalid confirmation string. Note that confirmation strings expire approximately 3 days after the initial subscription request. If your confirmation has expired, please try to re-submit your original request or message. - Unprocessed: RE: Your confirmation is required to leave the CSD_parents mailing list Remove from this mailing list plz. -----Original Message----- From: csd_parents-confirm+64c6698239b5f1f3cc281ed426738364ff3e7bdd(a)mailman.canby.k 12.or.us [mailto:csd_parents-confirm+64c6698239b5f1f3cc281ed426738364ff3e7bdd@mailman .canby.k12.or.us] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 1:31 PM To: test(a)web-ster.com Subject: Your confirmation is required to leave the CSD_parents mailing list Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list CSD_parents We have received a request for the removal of your email address, "test(a)web-ster.com" from the csd_parents(a)mailman.canby.k12.or.us mailing list. To confirm that you want to be removed from this mailing list, simply reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact. Or visit this web page: http://mailman.canby.k12.or.us/mailman/confirm/csd_parents/64c6698239b5f1f3c c281ed426738364ff3e7bdd - Ignored: Or include the following line -- and only the following line -- in a message to csd_parents-request(a)mailman.canby.k12.or.us: confirm 64c6698239b5f1f3cc281ed426738364ff3e7bdd Note that simply sending a `reply' to this message should work from most mail readers, since that usually leaves the Subject: line in the right form (additional "Re:" text in the Subject: is okay).

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Problem with plus-sign "+" in the list-name
by Gerhard Rappenecker June 14, 2013

June 14, 2013

Hi all, since upgrading to mailman 2.1.15 the following problem occurs: When lists admins want to change the list parameters or member-list by the webinterface they receive: "Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)" and no change is done. IMPORTANT: This error only happens when the list-name contains a plus-sign "+", like e+test(a)lists.myorg.com. The other list functions are working fine. Unfortunately we have got a lot of such lists and ist nearly unpossible to change all the list-names. Can anybody help me? best regards Gerhard Rappenecker

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Problem listing full member names with diacritics
by Brett Delmage June 13, 2013

June 13, 2013

Hi. checked through the 65,397 list messages in my mail archives first, but didn't see anything obvious for this. on ubuntu MM 1:2.1.14-3 I'm trying to export subscribers at the command line with full names "list_members -f mylistname" Characters with diacritics in subscriber names are coming out as "?". These same characters names look fine on the web "Membership Management... Section", which the HTML header reported as UTF-8. My console is UTF-8: ( LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 ) I tried piping list_members through iconv for an 8859-1 conversion to UTF-8, in case that's how they were stored. Not sure if I used it right, but the characters were still messed up. I tried the Jim Tittsler script to fetch names from web, but it crashes with an exception: ... File "./getnames", line 234, in handle_starttag 'iso-8859-1', 'replace') UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 4: ordinal not in range(128) I don't know what to try next. Thanks. Brett

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403 Errors with nginx and fcgiwrap
by Patrick Barrett June 12, 2013

June 12, 2013

I'm trying to setup mailman with nginx and fcgiwrap, but I'm getting 403 errors, well a page that is blank except for the number 403. I can access some pages. I can see the listinfo page, the admin page, the createlist page, and I can even create lists. But, I get the 403's when I go to listinfo/<listname> and the like. This seems to be an almost identical problem to http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg57843.html but I have all the items in my config that that thread says needs to be there. Here is my nginx config: http://pastebin.com/G5A87tEw Also, check_perms comes back with no problems found. (But it did have to fix quite a few first and I even had to manually fix a few symlinks that it wouldn't fix.) Thanks

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Mailman support needed
by Peter Weyland June 12, 2013

June 12, 2013

I would like to contract with someone to support approximately 500 MM clients. -Peter Weyland 703-300-7980

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