Mailman 3 January 2014 - Mailman-Users

non-interactive newlist, but send notification
by Will Yardley 28 Jan '14

28 Jan '14

Looking at the code, I think I know the answer already, but is there any way (with Mailman 2.1.9) to send a notification to the list owner when a list is created, but do it in non-interactive mode? Right now, you have to use '-q' to avoid hitting enter, but then no notification to the list-owner is sent. We have some code that creates lists; its author prefers to avoid calling the Mailman modules directly, even though the code is written in Python. w

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Mailman Issues and How to debug?
by Srinivas B. 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hi We have the following environment: Amazon Linux 2013.09 mailman 2.1.12 virtualmin This is a new server that was recently setup with few mailing lists. Running into few issues that were never seen in our old server. All the mailing lists are created brand-new on this server. On a daily basis we get reminders about pending requests for each of the mailing list. Clicking on the link: lists.<our domain>/mailman/admindb/mem says "The requested URL couldnot be retrieved". - The following error was encountered "Zero Sized Reply" - This very URL works fine at other time(s) but sometimes it doesn't >From Virtualmin UI, the mailing list manager says "no pending requests" for any of the mailing list that sent the notification. A couple of members complained that they received the same mail multiple times - more than 10 times - but none of our test-accounts seen this issue, so can't tell what went wrong. Is there a way to check if everything with mailman is setup correctly and no issues are seen? Thank you for any insight and direction you may provide. -Srinivas

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Minor suggestion: Template for "admindb" page
by Jay Sekora 22 Jan '14

22 Jan '14

Hi! This is just a thought that popped into my head and I thought I'd share it with the world. Apologies if this has already been discussed or is already in development for Mailman 3. It would be nice if either the "admindb" page for a list were templatable, with the HTML template editable per-list, or it included a custom-per-list HTML snippet at the top the way the listinfo page does. That way, a list owner could provide per-list information or links to list moderators. (For instance, a reminder of policy for who should be on the list, or a link to some other non-Mailman tool, or just snippets of text to be pasted into the "rejection reason" fields.) It could also be useful just to add some list branding, so it's a bit more obvious *which* list you're approving requests for. (We have some similarly-named lists with different policies, and just as the posters sometimes get confused and send to the wrong list, the moderators sometimes get confused and approve for the wrong list.) To make this vaguely on-topic for mailman-users, has anybody done something like this? Anybody have patches? I could hardcode this myself (with "if" clauses to distinguish particular lists of interest) in Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py, but I'm not familiar enough with the Mailman codebase to know how to add a new per-list configuration field. (So actually if anybody has a pointer to info on how to do that that would be interesting too.) Cheers, Jay

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Newsletter Blast sending duplicates to subscribers
by Doug Hutson 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

Hi, We've been using mailman for quite a long time now, and suddenly the last newsletter we sent out sent duplicates to random users as far as I can tell. All the people that have e-mailed us about this issue were specifically yahoo addresses. Reports of 4-50 duplicates per user were sent to them. We only have one list of users we send users to, and this is the first time this has ever happened. I have a few accounts added to the list myself, and my aol account did not recieve the email at all. Previously the aol account received the messages, I had a couple of the newsletters in my account still unread. So, my question specifically... does anybody have advice in what I should look for as to why this happened? I read a post from 2002 that was somewhat similar to this issue, but it had to do with not haveing enough memory... and currently my server has 53gigs free, so that couldn't be the issue... unless of course you have to 'allocate' memory to mailman in some config file. We have about 12k users on our list. Thank you in advance, and let me know if I lacked some details to help solve my issue. Thanks, Doug

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Well isn't that nice
by Mark J Bradakis 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

Moving Mailman from an old Fedora system to a new Ubuntu ( 13.10 ) server. going to the mailman/listinfo or admin links results in the web pages asking if I want to download the binary file. Actually I want the file to be executed on the server, and give me the expected pages. Time for a little FAQ and archive research, I guess, find out what config flag I've overlooked in Apache2. mjb.

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having bounced messages delivered to administrator or sender
by Hugo Vandeputte 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Hello, I used mailman recently for a new mailing list, and after some time I discovered that bounced messages are not delivered to the sender or the administrator. In my memory, they were delivered in older installations of mailman. Is there an option to configure such delivery? I can see the bounce process handled in my log : (delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman) and uncaught bounce notification are delivered correctly. Thanks for help.

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help finding template
by Ricardo Kleemann 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Hi, The link normally at the footer of list messages, for example: Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ricardo%40americasnet… Will send out a confirmation email and also takes the user to a user-specific version of the options page. I'm trying to find, with no success, where the template for that output page is. It seems this might be a hardcoded output that uses the mailman.po text strings, but cannot have its overall content/layout be customized? thanks Ricardo

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couple of questions...
by Ricardo Kleemann 18 Jan '14

18 Jan '14

Hi guys, I have a couple of questions: 1) What file would I modify to customize the text for the subscription results? I'm looking to customize the text in another language (pt_BR) but I can't find the text file. I do see the subscribe.html template and it makes a mention to <MM-Results> 2) Is it possible to unsubscribe via the web in a similar fashion as using the cgi-bin/subscribe method? I don't see an unsubscribe script under cgi-bin thanks Ricardo

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Alternative authentication mechanisms for Mailman
by Rainer Hoerbe 18 Jan '14

18 Jan '14

If one is using mailman in an environment that has some identity management system, such as Kerberos, a SAML federation or OAUTH, mailman should be integrated into such an single sign on system to get rid of passwords. Although I hear rumors that CERN di such an integration for shibboleth, I could not find anything on the web, because it is so hard to google for a search term containing "mailman". Also, I did not find a hint on lists.org. Does anybody have a link to answers on questions like this: - How to do container-bases authentication for mailman? (e.g., use apache authentication like mod_ssl or mod_auth_kerb) - Is there an integration fo mailman with shibboleth or another SAML product? - Did someone integrate OAUTH2 or some social login (FB/LI/G+/TW)? - Rainer

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[Question] Where are the Moderated Messages?
by Oliver Niebuhr 17 Jan '14

17 Jan '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Good evening. I have a Question: I have moderated a Mail and used the Option "Keep Message for Moderator" (or whatever the correct english Translation is). Now i want to look into that Message as we want to Ban this person. But i can not find it anywhere. Is there a hidden option to Access it?? I am only the Administrator of the List not the Server Admin. This is handled by another Department. Have i overseen something? Or is the Message gone forever as i dont have it additionally forwarded to a specific address? Thank You and Sorry for the bad english :) Oliver Germany -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQGcBAEBAgAGBQJS1bn/AAoJEBe8q9IvkbNbjJEMAJa9vBbmqp3Wvc9FlQuG5kCA AdxaqTDtOE0oHmr/dpBn4cA1LzkW8Ok5zEkoS/wUF0SvV6ZFs7VJf7WVmO0CwdZb cOYECqZa4/uinWG4VI60v6DzEd1WjlFqUGFVHjevvSTfR3xDWXGZMQuhg3MFg6eW kSNXtF8IH9od6lFI0MY/+CbrMLAckxQSNLb/olI1mqdHEIJrWuPr/tPXwItYEwmS Jsix1GkqdutZPoh60dBBSgrNfjzNQ6H7T4rHgs02UwZx4c50a+3YnbiYbu93QHDO sfif+DUMJ9QrMHy+0HULkdbi7OdcVSqm4f+byy1olV12rvxrYBlAMb7xaOgn1RjW cJw52+HY/+FQ/GjAVpRGzDGq+Akhal4lgvRPux8QtGOzAVu2dOVeMgp/gZEonM0L 5mEMDm/qXhEV6C+jKUHbiCHyA5ibosnArJ4CcsLaX8TUFl2qQRIfIzGi273/10he HXoo+Mpyqp73q/i0Pupi0pFlTFUP3e9TQfveYK4d+w== =juvX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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