Mailman-Users December 2014

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43 discussions

Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Mailman 2.1.18-1 not respecting add_virtualhost
by Chris Miller 03 Jul '15

03 Jul '15

Hello, we recently updated our (vhost patched) Mailman installation from 2.1.14 to 2.1.18-1 (https://launchpad.net/~msapiro) in order to workaround Yahoo's recent change to their SPF policy that this version addresses. Virtual mailing list hosting worked fine up until this upgrade. Here is an example of our mm_cfg.py : VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'list.ourdomain.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman/' VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = On add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('list.customerdomain.com', 'customerdomain.com') If we change the default values above and run the below command, the available mailing lists move from the old default to the new. bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url -- All add_virtualhost configuration lines are ignored. Since withlist is able to read the changes in our mm_cfg.py, this does not strike me as an issue with our configure options which were limited : ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman --with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-cgi-gid=apache I am unaware of a method we can use to further debug this, such as a command that would effectively dump out Mailman's configuration options, thus validating if it is even reading the add_virtualhost configuration lines. -- Regards, Chris Chris Miller President - Rocket Scientist ScratchSpace Inc. (831) 621-7928 http://www.scratchspace.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there tool convert archived files/directories into a mbox file?
by Mark Sapiro 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

On 05/10/2013 06:35 AM, Xie, Wei wrote: > > Here we have one customer to request migrating all old archived files of > mailing list ‘kinejapan’ under directory > /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/kinejapan prior to 2009 (as attached > file) to Yale university. Yale university IT guys needs us to create a > mbox file for these old archived file to be easy for them to run > command ‘archdo migration. > > > > I check there is no file kinejapan.mbox under directory > /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/kinejapan.mbox to match these old > archived files as attached. This mailing list was maintained by our > pre-mailman admin, who passed away 2011, so I do not know why the mbox > file was missing. If ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX is set to 0 in mm_cfg.py, Mailman will not create/update LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox files. > Do you know whether there is a tool/method to convert these old archived > files/directories as attached into a mbox file? Lots of information is lost if there is no .mbox file. You can do as well as anything with cat /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/kinejapan/*.txt > kinejapan.mbox -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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We're sorry, we hit a bug!
by Roel Wagenaar 10 Jan '15

10 Jan '15

L.S. Bug in Mailman version 2.1.15 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. The above message shows up on the web pages, unfortunately the last log written to is qrunner, error is empty, so no info on what it is about. The last thing changed is the adres of the main pages. It looks like the mail-system is not affected, any idea what is going on? Would like to show some logging, but it simply is not there. -- Roel Wagenaar, Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Why be difficult, when with a bit of effort, you can be impossible?

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Mailman 2.1.15 translations not quite right
by Matt Moore 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

Hello, I run a mailman system for a number of mailing lists. Recently I've noticed that a number of our pages aren't fully translated, when I think they probably should be. The server is a Debian 7.2 (wheezy) server and Mailman is 2.1.15. Python is 2.7.3, if that's of any use. There's nothing obvious in the 'error' log in /var/log/mailman. Any other logs I could check? As an example: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/cienciaaberta You can see that the top is in English and the bottom is in Portugese (Brazilian). Can anyone give me any useful pointers as to what can be done to fix? My google-fu has rather failed me on this one. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Moore Sysadmin Open Knowledge - www.okfn.org Skype - notmatt

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RELEASED: GNU Mailman (core) 3.0b5
by Barry Warsaw 30 Dec '14

30 Dec '14

Hello friends of Mailman, and Happy New Year! You can roll that stone To the top of the hill Drag your ball and chain behind you Once again, it's time for the traditional "avoid the copyright year bump" release. I'm happy to announce the fifth beta release of Mailman 3.0 core, code named "Carve Away The Stone". We're really quite close now, but this release is a little different. Those of you who follow the proceedings on the mailman-developers mailing list will note that I have ported the core engine to Python 3.4. While it is my intent to release Mailman 3.0 core[*] final as a Python 3 application, some of the details are still be hashed out on the mailing list, and in the code base. For this reason, I am releasing two "flavors" of 3.0b5: * "A" release, which remains on Python 2.7 * "B" release, which is only compatible with Python 3.4 The A and B releases are functionally equivalent. There may be different bugs in them, but they both implement the exact same feature set, with the only difference being the version of Python they are compatible with. Some time early in 2015, I will be merging the Python 3 branch back into trunk, and dropping Python 2 support. I would encourage you to download the "B" release and try it out. If you do try both, please submit bugs for any functional differences you encounter. You can download GNU Mailman 3.0b5 core (both "A" and "B" releases) from the Python Cheeseshop: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/mailman/3.0.0b5 The documentation is available online at: http://pythonhosted.org/mailman Mailman 3.0 is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 or later. Detailed changes in 3.0b5 are available here: http://tinyurl.com/p9fpgrh Bugs can be reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman Special thanks go to Abhilash Raj and Aurélien Bompard, who implemented the conversion of the ORM layer from Storm to SQLAlchemy and Alembic. Thanks also to Kurt Griffiths for his excellent Falcon Framework package, which now replaces restish as our WSGI-compatible REST layer. Both of these changes were critical in allowing me to port the core to Python 3. Enjoy, and Happy New Year. -Barry [*] Postorious and HyperKitty will port to Python 3 on their own time schedule, and may remain Python 2 applications for the final release of the GNU Mailman Suite. mailman.client, the standalone REST client will be a bilingual library, supporting both Python 2 and Python 3.

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Robots.txt
by Greg Sims 28 Dec '14

28 Dec '14

Hi Everyone, I hope you had a good Christmas with friends and family. We developed custom subscription pages for the mailing lists supported by our website. Although these pages show on our SERP listings, so do the Info Pages provided by Mailman. Please try the following search query on Google and you will see what I mean: site:raystedman.org email This is confusing for our users so I would like to hide all the pages containing "mailman" and "pipermail" from the SERP listings. I read the archives of this list and found a couple of entries. The answer seems to be including "Disallows" in our robots.txt file. I did this as you can see here -- towards the bottom of the file: http://www.raystedman.org/robots.txt This has been in place for four weeks so I do not believe it is working. I believe this problem is there needs to be a robots.txt file for each subdomain. In this case, mailman lives in the lists.raystedman.org subdomain. Is there a way to have a robots.txt file for the lists.raystedman.org subdomain? Thanks in advance for your assistance! Greg

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Yahoo spam detection
by Steven D'Aprano 26 Dec '14

26 Dec '14

Some of my Yahoo subscribers are reporting that emails from my mailing list are being flagged as spam. As far as I can tell, I'm not using spammy words, and the emails are plain text not HTML. I have SPF set up. One of the Yahoo subscribers kindly forwarded me the full headers and I can see these which appear relevant: X-YahooFilteredBulk: 150.101.137.129 Received-SPF: pass (domain of pearwood.info designates 150.101.137.129 as permitted sender) X-Originating-IP: [150.101.137.129] Authentication-Results: mta1310.mail.bf1.yahoo.com from=pearwood.info; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=pearwood.info; dkim=neutral (no sig) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqD1AA1PlVR20UxqPGdsb2JhbABBGoNYWIMEs1KFGUqBUIYAhFwBgQKCMQMgdBc BAQEBAQYBAQEBODuEDgYZAQgREgMFAgYYCgQDAQIGAiQCBRYHCAIBBgMCAQIBDx AICgQeBQYCAgEUAQIBAgKHdwMQCTy6DYFwhGOJUQ2Fa4EhgWqGfwGCOYJMCgQDA QKEfgWDfTAGhB8rgjCDBYJSSYF/gUGCDXQwgjOCBgwhgzaCH4IZgmyCfoFzKjEB AQkBdwkXgSABAQE X-IronPort-SPAM: SPAM Googling suggests that nobody except Cisco can decipher the X-IronPort-Anti-Spam header, and they refuse to tell even their customers what it means, let alone people like me. Can anyone suggest something I can do to convince Yahoo I'm not sending spam? Thanks, -- Steve

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Understanding patterns of unsubscribe
by Steven D'Aprano 26 Dec '14

26 Dec '14

Hi all, Back in September, I migrated an announcement-only mailing list from Yahoo to mailman, with approximately 1800 email addresses. An unknown number of these were dead. The mailing list I am running sends out one, maybe two, emails a month, at around the same time of the month. It's not a discussion list, so there are no replies from subscribers. I expected that the first month, there would be a lot of automatic unsubscriptions, as the dead addresses were noted and removed, and then in subsequent months there might only be a trickle of automatic removals. To my surprise though, there has been a steady pattern of mass unsubscriptions each month, around 100-200 each month following the posted announcement. I'm not sure whether this is normal (if it is, unless the number of unsubscriptions begins to fall soon, I'll soon be left with no subscribers) or whether I'm doing something wrong. Here are my bounce processing settings: bounce_processing = Yes bounce_score_threshold = 4.0 bounce_info_stale_after = 65 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 3 bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval = 10 Remembering that I only send out 1 or 2 emails every 30 days (give or take a couple of days in either direction), does this seem reasonable? Or is my bounce processing too strict? Thanks in advance, -- Steve

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