Mailman 3 February 2014 - Mailman-Users

Moderation history
by Peter Shute 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Our users are moderated on subscribing, and then unmoderated after a probation period. Some are moderated again for bad behaviour, then unmoderated for a period, then moderated again, etc. In making decisions about who to unmoderate, it would be useful to see the user's history. I.e. when they subscribed, when they were unmoderated, etc. At the moment we can't even tell why someone is moderated, and the only history I've got is the subscription alert emails I save. On top of that we have many users who unsubscribe instead of turning off mail delivery when they go on holidays, so they become moderated again when they resubscribe. Does mailman keep a record of this stuff? Peter Shute

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Question about moderation notices.
by Joe 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hello, everyone. I have a question about moderation. There are a few members in my lists I wish to moderate at least for a while. I understand that by moderating their posts I will be given the opportunity to review each message they attempt to post and either approve it or reject it if the content is questionable. Is this true ? In regards to this moderation, I have read somewhere that subscribers may or may not receive a notification every time their messages are held for moderation. I can't seem to find this setting now. Is there a way to turn off this setting so that subscribers don't receive notifications every time their messages are held for moderation ? Is this setting individual (can be set individually and independently for every subscribers) or is it a global setting for the entire list ? Thank you in advance, Joe.

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Integrating Mailman database with Drupal
by Andrew Hodgson 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hi, One of the lists I have ran for a few years now is looking to go to a web based forum hosted on Drupal with mail list features. Before dropping Mailman entirely, I wanted to know if there was a reason to tie up the subscriber database with the Mailman account? This is the main reason they are looking to move to the new system. If the system was on the same host as Drupal, I could probably do it with the scripts, but it is likely the systems would be separated. Thanks. Andrew.

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Command-line to the rescue?
by Richard 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hi All, For those who don't care about background, skip ahead to "DISCARD" below! This past fall / winter, a series of old-hardware-finally-died events cascaded into a bloody mess with our network and - never mind the underlying details - I ended up with one remaining network problem I have yet to solve, and in the mean time, it's making my administration of Mailman lists a royal pain in the butt. In short, there's a bug in the firewall / routing software on my firewall gateway box which is preventing me from getting to my own internal systems' external IP addresses via a web browser. Other people can get to those systems using their normal IP addresses (from the outside), but I can't (from the inside). However, the external systems don't administer Mailman anyway - two servers do pass-through to an internal server that does it on the same system that does email processing. SO, I _can_ get to that system via internal IP, and if I set up my /etc/hosts file correctly, the virtual domain hosting part works fine, too, so I have access to mailman administration from the inside, sort of! HOWEVER, that system paints an external domain name, so all the pass through works through the external servers. This means the URLs are wrong for internal access and therefore if you try it SOME administration tasks fail because it tries to hit features using the external naming - which presently isn't working from the inside due to the routing problem! Doah! ...ONE of those key administration tasks that doesn't work is the management of "pending moderator requests." And, using the mail reply option isn't sufficient because we no longer have all the original administrator emails to reply to! DISCARD So... /usr/lib/mailman/bin/discard to the rescue? All 'discard -h' says is: Discard held messages. Usage: discard [options] file ... Options: --help / -h Print this help message and exit. --quiet / -q Don't print status messages. Um... Obvious question: What goes in the file? I'd also have expected it to present me with an option to specify which list? A "from" email address? And what if I want to accept or reject instead of discard? Is there a different utility I should be looking at? BTW, it's mailman 2.1.14-12, and I'm pretty sure it's the youngest version that will run on that particular box. Thanks, Richard

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banning email
by jdd 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hello, a korean lotery keep subscribing to one of my lists. I'm advised and unsubscribe asap, but it keeps coming. How can I prevent an email from subscribing? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org

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Adding list with new domain. Which alias set would I use
by George Kasica 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Currently have mailman working here with Postfix and MySQL and in the transport it has /etc/postfix/transport lists.netwrx1.org mailman: I have a couple lists under the netwrx1.org domain here that are working well and aliases look like the below but they are all under the netwrx1.org setup: INSERT INTO aliases (mail,destination) VALUES ('skunk-works(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-admin(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-admin(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-bounces(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-bounces(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-confirm(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-confirm(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-join(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-join(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-leave(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-leave(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-owner(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-owner(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-request(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-request(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-subscribe(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-subscribe(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('skunk-works-unsubscribe(a)netwrx1.org','skunk-works-unsubscribe(a)lists.netwrx1.org'); I want to add a couple lists with their own domains...would the aliases look something like: INSERT INTO aliases (mail,destination) VALUES ('muffin(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-admin(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-admin(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-bounces(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-bounces(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-confirm(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-confirm(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-join(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-join(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-leave(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-leave(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-owner(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-owner(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-request(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-request(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-subscribe(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-subscribe(a)lists.netwrx1.org'), ('muffin-unsubscribe(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-unsubscribe(a)lists.netwrx1.org'); OR would they be like this with the lists own domain and would I need to do anything to transport or another setting?? INSERT INTO aliases (mail,destination) VALUES ('muffin(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-admin(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-admin(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-bounces(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-bounces(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-confirm(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-confirm(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-join(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-join(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-leave(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-leave(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-owner(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-owner(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-request(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-request(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-subscribe(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-subscribe(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'), ('muffin-unsubscribe(a)petdiabetes.net','muffin-unsubscribe(a)lists.petdiabetes.net'); Thanks, I'm slowly getting the hang of this, George

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Manually setting digest version and/or number and other questions
by George Kasica 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

I've got an existing list that I just moved to mailman and I'm seeing the digests start over obviously at v1 n1. Is there any way to set those values somehow so I don't end up duplicating things? Also related to that when a user lipoma at the archive by date, thread, etc. all the mail is there. If he downloads the compressed file he's telling me it only has about 4-5 messages. Haven't had time to Investigate that one for sure yet but was curious what the archive process is like. Is it run once a day or?? Lastly is there a way to scrub either email or user name out of the digest/archive process to prevent harvesting? Thanks again. Sorry for the dumb questions. George --- George R. Kasica Sent from my iPhone5

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Sub. Invitation digest option
by Fred H Olson 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Over half of the subscribers (~800 active subs) to my main list ( http://lists.cohousing.org/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l ) are in digest mode. Individual mode is still default; replying from digest mode is so problematic - subject line and excessive quoting that I do not want to discourage regular mode. My ISP that hosts a very nice, easy to use Mailman instalation requires that subscribers subscribe themselves or respond to invitations (ie I can no longer unilaterally subscribe people) to protect against spam acusations. Therefore I use the invitation process fairly frequently. Today I realized (and experimented) that responding to a subscription invitation doee not include an easy option to select digest mode. Could the verify page include this option? FRed -- Fred H. Olson Minneapolis,MN 55411 USA (near north Mpls) Email: fholson at cohousing.org 612-588-9532 My Link Pg: http://fholson.cohousing.org My org: Communications for Justice -- Free, superior listserv's w/o ads

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Access message by URL based upon message ID?
by Malte Forkel 11 Feb '14

11 Feb '14

Hello, Does mailman offer an option to provide access to messages in archive by a URL based upon the message's ID? The reason I'm asking is similar to the rationale provided in [1]: I'm reading a mailing list originally maintained by mailman and redistributed by gmane.org using an NTTP client and I'm looking for a easy way to reference interesting messages in my wiki. So far, I have found a proposal for stable URLs by Barry Warsaw [2] and a related thread on this very list [2]. Unfortunately, the mail archive does not seem to offer the message-id based service mentioned in that thread anymore. Gmane still does, but the served page does not provide any links to other messages in the thread. Thanks, Malte [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg03400.html [2] http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Stable+URLs [3] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2013-May/075144.html

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Getting both regular mail & Digest at same e-mail address
by George Kasica 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Fast question: Is there any way to get both the regular list mail AND the Digests at the same email address and if so how would I got about setting that up.looking for it on line has proved elusive. George --- ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 georgek(a)netwrx1.com +1 206 374 6482 FAX http://www.netwrx1.com/georgek Jackson, WI USA gkasica(a)netwrx1.com ("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._ `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-'

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