Mailman 3 February 2014 - Mailman-Users

Question about Mailman hosting.
by Joe Feb. 7, 2014

Feb. 7, 2014

Hello, everyone. A while ago I posted a question to this group about some problems I had been experiencing with my server and was recommended several Mailman hosting services by some of the members who replied to my original post either here or privately. I have decided to follow this advice in order to save the time and effort it has become for me to maintain my server and the Mailman software up-to-date. What has been your experience with hosting services ? Have you had any problems and what should I watch out for ? Are there any hosting services you would recommend ? Thank you in advance for your responses. Joe.

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Subscription notifications - how to turn it off.
by Joe Feb. 6, 2014

Feb. 6, 2014

Hello, everyone. I have decided to transfer my mailman lists to a third party Mailman host. What options do I have to transfer all subscriptions to the new server ? Is there a way to export the files and then transfer to the host's server ? Assuming I am not able to do this (I am currently experiencing problems with the hard drive where the files are located) and have to manually enter all subscriptions (there are nearly 500 members total) is there a way to prevent subscription notices from being sent out again ? Each subscriber has already been sent a notification when they were subscribed and I want to make this transition smooth be avoiding subscription notices from being sent again. Thank you in advance. Joe.

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Archive Email Issue
by Nick Hudson Feb. 6, 2014

Feb. 6, 2014

I recently had to rebuild the server our mailing list was running on. When I brought it back up everything seems to be fine, with exception of the archives. The archive list shows each individual email, but when you click on it, it's always the last email that was received. So every archive link goes to the same email. Any thoughts on what I might can do to correct this? Mailman 2.1.15 running on Ubuntu 13.04 Thanks! -- Nick Hudson nick.hudson(a)gmail.com

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Block of text near footer?
by Frank Murphy Feb. 6, 2014

Feb. 6, 2014

Mailman version 2.1.12 Can a block of text be placed near the footer on created\posted mails, e.g.? Request will expire June 2014 -- http://list.example.com I'm uncertain how to enter such a string in the footer text box. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com

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list reply domain mangled
by Ryan Caron Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

I have a aaa(a)yyy.zzz.ucla.edu, but when an email is sent out, it appears to come from aaa(a)zzz.ucla.edu. Only an explicit reply-list works, and then not all the time. I should note that the server is not virtual, and doesn't have any other names beyond yyy.zzz.ucla.edu. DEFAULT_URL_HOST & DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST are explicitly defined that way anyway. The individual lists have th host_name properly defined as well. Even reply-to header munging (first_strip_reply_to, reply_goes_to_list, & reply_to_address) are ineffective at preserving the yyy portion. At this point I'm guessing MTA somewhere is changing all this, but where? The MTA in the box is sendmail, but as for the rest of the network... Thanks, Ryan

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converting an e-mail discussion to a list (with existing archive)
by Marcel Giannelia Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

Well, I was originally going to post about a strange issue I encountered with dates being mangled... but since I figured out the answer on my own, I'll just post these instructions instead, in case someone finds them useful :) Some friends and I were e-mailing back and forth with regular e-mails, putting everyone in the CC list, etc. and it was getting too confusing to keep track of. We want to move the discussion topic onto a mailing list instead. 1. Make a new blank Mailman list 2. Set yourself as the admin and the only subscriber 3. Go into Mailman's Defaults.py and change these settings: ARCHIVER_CLOBBER_DATE_POLICY = 2 ARCHIVER_ALLOWABLE_SANE_DATE_SKEW = days(15) Very important! If you don't change those, the archive threading will be completely messed up. (this is the issue I was having... didn't figure out that this setting existed until after I'd imported a hundred e-mails... see below for how to fix it if you did that too.) 4. Turn off respond_to_post_requests on the Mailman general settings page for the list Very important! If you don't turn this off, everyone may get lots of "your message has been held" e-mails. 5. Find an e-mail program that has a 'bounce' or 'redirect with full headers' command (e.g. alpine, claws-mail, ...) -- this will preserve who sent what, instead of it all coming from you 6. Start 'bounce'ing all messages related to the conversation to the new list's posting address 7. Verify that threading and attachments are being handled correctly in the archive 8. When you've finished creating the archive, subscribe everyone else to the list. If you find yourself past step 3 without having turned off date mangling and all your older e-mails are in the wrong archive month: - go into (Mailman)/private/listname.mbox/ - Delete Date: and convert X-Original-Date: back to Date: on the affected messages in (Mailman)/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox - move (Mailman)/private/listname/ to a backup location - From the Mailman base directory, run 'bin/arch listname' - move the 'attachments' subdirectory of the backed-up archive back into the newly generated one (If you have Mailman set to scrub attachments; the attachments are not kept in the mbox archive, but the generated links are completely preserved when re-running 'arch', so simply moving the old folder back into place preserves all the attachment links in the new archive.) ~Felix.

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Removing admins using command line
by Ben Malin Feb. 4, 2014

Feb. 4, 2014

Is there any way to remove an admin from a list from the command line similar to the remove_members command? I have to remove old users from 150+ lists and am not looking forward to doing it one at a time from the web interface :-/ Thanks in advance! Ben ______________________________________________________________________ The information contained in and transmitted with this communication is strictly confidential, is intended only for use of the intended recipient, and is the property of Franklin American Mortgage Company. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of the information contained in or transmitted with the communication or distribution, dissemination or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited by law. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately return this communication to the Sender and delete the original message and any copy of it in your possession.

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Mailman setting not "sticking"
by Liz Zoob Feb. 4, 2014

Feb. 4, 2014

Hi-- This is my first post, and I hope you can help me figure something out. I am a therapist who administers a Mailman (2.1.15) list for a local group of other therapists. The Mailman software was set up by someone else with whom I don't interact in an ongoing way. I handle all administrative requests for our list, and have customized various Mailman administration pages for our mailing group (custom Welcome Message, footer, plain vs MIME digests, ACK or no, etc.). One of the Umbrella list settings under General Options is "Send monthly password reminders?" which I have set to NO. (None of our members want to access the list messages via the web, so they don't have or need passwords.) Nonetheless, some of our members are getting these Monthly Reminder Messages anyway, despite the NO setting (not all--I haven't gotten one myself), and they are writing to me, confused. Can anyone explain to me why the NO setting is not sticking, or is being overridden? It is also puzzling why only some of the members are getting the reminder. There is no setting in the individual members' settings/options that has anything to do with this reminder, nor do all recipients of the reminders have the same email domains. One more bit of information: The person who set up the mailing list for us also set up two other regional lists, all within the same domain. In other words, my list is xxx_xxx.ourdomain.org, while another is yyy_yyy.ourdomain.org. Is it possible that there are "master umbrella" (?) settings somewhere that override mine, settings that the original setter-upper of this software can tweak? By the way, I did write to him too, but I like to find out whatever I can on my own. Plus I may not be at the top of his priority list. Any ideas? Thanks. Liz

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Rescuing Misdirected Mail from Moderation Queue - possible?
by Drew Tenenholz Feb. 3, 2014

Feb. 3, 2014

All -- I have a problem I hope you can help me with. I am a owner/manager of about a dozen interrelated lists and we've just discovered that about 50 posts which should have been delivered to the French-language list were actually being sent to the English language list. Is it possible to actually have them sent to the correct list with their original date/time? Here's the details: -- All lists are announce-only, with approval passwords, and explicit address restrictions. -- The messages incorrectly sent to the English list are being held in that list's moderation queue because they have the wrong password, as they should be. I'm wondering if it is possible to somehow copy/move/duplicate the moderation queue of the English list into the French list, then use the moderation webpage to 'accept' the posts for delivery. Since I have complete root access to the server running Mailman, I can do whatever I like at the file system level and then refresh Mailman. So, a couple of questions about this idea: 1) If this is a feasible method, with the accepted posts come with their original date/time? 2) Will Mailman appropriately strip out the 'Approved:password' line when a message is released from the moderation queue, or will it deliver the message in it's entirety? 3) Do I need to temporarily update the require_explicit_address option in the French list, or will accepting the posts from the moderation queue override that preference? Are there other ways to achieve what I'm looking to do? Thanks in Advance, Drew Tenenholz

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Prefix for subject line
by nikos Feb. 3, 2014

Feb. 3, 2014

Hello list What will happened if i remove (leave blank) Prefix for subject line? Thank you in advance

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