Mailman 3 April 2014 - Mailman-Users

Mailman 2.1.18 release
by Mark Sapiro April 26, 2014

April 26, 2014

I am pleased to announce the first release candidate for Mailman 2.1.18. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is recommended. This release has new features to help with mitigation of the impacts of DMARC on mailing lists. There is also a new dependency associated with these features. Namely, the new Privacy options -> Sender filters -> dmarc_moderation_action feature requires that the dnspython <http://www.dnspython.org/> package be available in Python. There are … [View More]

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Workaround for yahoo/aol dmarc?
by Conrad G T Yoder April 25, 2014

April 25, 2014

I’ve been poking around the Mailman options (that I have access to… I am using a hosted Mailman 2.1.14) and brainstorming - would it be possible, using the options in the “Non-digest options” page, to munge the “From:” header of Yahoo/AOL posters to change their address to something like smith(a)aol-removethis.com? I don’t know enough python to answer this. -Conrad -- Loose talk is noose talk. Be a live patriot, not a dead traitor.

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DMARC: Testing anonymous_list as an option
by Terry Earley April 25, 2014

April 25, 2014

I have been reading these posts and your documentation<http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC>with interest, and since in our list, we moderate every post, we did not have too much concern about having moderators re-post yahoo messages. Then the news that AOL is joining the DMARC party got me worrying that soon the big players, gmail, hotmail, etc may also decide to implement DMARC for messages coming from their users. To prepare for that possibility, I have been testing one of the … [View More]

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I : Error message "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12" when approving a moderated post and selecting "Preserve message for the Administrator"...
by Jacques Setton April 25, 2014

April 25, 2014

Hi, I was logged-into Mailman as a moderator and just hit the error message "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12 - We're sorry, we hit a bug! " The latter was generated when approving a moderated post and concomitantly selecting "Preserve message for the Administrator" - see all the details below. When returning to the approval form screen (back arrow in the navigator) , this time I only approved the post without selecting the "Preserve message for the Administrator" check button. This led … [View More]to a screen indicating that the approval procedure resumed. As moderator, I later received a copy of the post indicating that sections of it were filtered out, according the rules enforced in the admin section . Would anyone have an idea about the related problem and possible workaround solution ? Thanks for your help - Regards. Jacques Setton jsetton(a)waycast.com ============================================== Bug in Mailman version 2.1.12 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. _______________________________________________ Here is a corresponding excerpt of the Mailman Error Log _______________________________________________ Apr 24 22:46:22 2014 admin(10087): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(10087): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.12 -----] admin(10087): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10087): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(10087): File "/usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin(10087): main() admin(10087): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 165, in main admin(10087): process_form(mlist, doc, cgidata) admin(10087): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admindb.py", line 716, in process_form admin(10087): forward, forwardaddr) admin(10087): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 167, in HandleRequest admin(10087): forward, addr) admin(10087): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 254, in __handlepost admin(10087): g(msg, 1) admin(10087): AttributeError: Generator instance has no __call__ method admin(10087): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10087): sys.version = 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Jan 22 2014, 09:42:36) [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-4)] admin(10087): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10087): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10087): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(10087): sys.path = /usr admin(10087): sys.platform = linux2 admin(10087): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10087): HTTP_REFERER: https://lists.domain.org/mailman/admindb/lablist admin(10087): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache admin(10087): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admindb admin(10087): SERVER_SIGNATURE: admin(10087): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10087): PATH_INFO: /lablist admin(10087): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(10087): QUERY_STRING: admin(10087): SSL_TLS_SNI: lists.domain.org admin(10087): CONTENT_LENGTH: 169 admin(10087): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko admin(10087): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(10087): HTTP_COOKIE: lablist+admin=; mailman+admin=; lablist+user+jsetton--at--waycast.com=; lablist+moderator=2802000000690677595373280000006366333761313332666438323266 3961333537613962376330633335346663346562616265303836 admin(10087): SERVER_NAME: lists.domain.org admin(10087): REMOTE_ADDR: 83.197.22.185 admin(10087): PATH_TRANSLATED: /home/ovh/www/lablist admin(10087): SERVER_PORT: 443 admin(10087): SERVER_ADDR: 37.187.67.136 admin(10087): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /home/ovh/www admin(10087): PYTHONPATH: /usr/lib/mailman admin(10087): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb admin(10087): SERVER_ADMIN: postmaster(a)vps59845.ovh.net admin(10087): HTTP_DNT: 1 admin(10087): HTTP_HOST: lists.domain.org admin(10087): HTTPS: on admin(10087): HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: no-cache admin(10087): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admindb/lablist admin(10087): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html, application/xhtml+xml, */* admin(10087): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10087): REMOTE_PORT: 52302 admin(10087): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: fr-FR admin(10087): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10087): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate _______________________________________________ [View Less]

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#Mailman
by Sylvain Viart April 25, 2014

April 25, 2014

Amusing. What the hashtag #mailman stand for? I don't understand any topic, not mailman related at all… Hey, great job for mailman 3! Congrats. Regards, Sylvain.

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ANNOUNCE: The GNU Mailman 3 suite, beta 1 preview
by Barry Warsaw April 24, 2014

April 24, 2014

Hello Mailman enthusiasts! Time and motion Wind and sun and rain Days connect like boxcars in a train Another Pycon has come and gone and with it, another fantastic sprint among the core developers. We accomplished quite a bit, and now we'd like to share the results with you. On behalf of the Mailman development team, I am happy to announce the first beta release of the full Mailman 3 suite. This release includes: * Postorius 1.0.0b1 (Year of the Parrot), our new Django-based … [View More]

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One list repeatedly sends moderator requests for old already moderated messages
by Fletcher Cocquyt April 24, 2014

April 24, 2014

Hi, We have one list where the moderator daily receives moderation requests for the same 4 messages from 3 months ago. They have already been moderated (discarded) months ago. Is this a known issue? Is there a solution? (mailman v 2.1.9) thanks!

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Yahoo's DMARC and Mailman 2.17
by Russell Clemings April 23, 2014

April 23, 2014

I'm afraid I'm not much of a Python programmer so I will post this as a suggestion and hope it's easy enough to do so that someone will pick it up. (Or should I post it to the developers' list? I don't subscribe to it though so I'm not familiar with the culture there.) I've just upgraded cPanel to take advantage of Mailman 2.1.17's "from_is_list" feature and it works great except for one thing. If the poster has not filled out the "name" field in his/her MUA (i.e., if the From field says just … [View More]

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Urgent List Migration/Transfer - Need some help
by Drew Tenenholz April 23, 2014

April 23, 2014

All -- I need to move my existing Mailman system to a new AWS Server ASAP and could use some advice. The current server works just fine, the current problem is that the network it is on has been attacked, and the higher ups at IT have shut off all mail communication (in or out) to the internet. So, someone not familiar with Mailman at all has this idea of moving the entire setup (lists, subscribers, any messages in the queues would be great) to a AWS instance. They have already gotten … [View More]

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DMARC and Gmail
by Lindsay Haisley April 23, 2014

April 23, 2014

Has anyone seen issues with Gmail accounts and Yahoo's DMARC policy? I've been working with the list admins of one of FMP's hosted lists and they've seen over 100 addresses unsubscribed from the usual suspects - yahoo.com, att.net, Comcast, etc., but no Gmail accounts and there are 228 of them on the list. Nonetheless, the PC World article at http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-brea… lists Gmail as being one of the cooperating email service providers … [View More]

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Mails are not reaching via mailing list.....
by Amit Bhatt April 22, 2014

April 22, 2014

As I have been writing for last couple of days that we are facing some problem with our mailing list such as delivery failure, not showing the list in public listing etc. Thanks to those who provided me the solution and I have told my service provider to follow them. Conciquently the above issues got resolved but now there is no delivery failure returning to the sender, however, none of the post or E-mail sent by any subscriber is not reaching across the list. Means we are not receiving any … [View More]

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Can I remove a particular archive from the list?
by Amit Bhatt April 21, 2014

April 21, 2014

As a list administrator, do I have any option to remove any particular post from the archive of all messages? Please share how to do this. Thanks, Amit Bhatt

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Delivery failure from mailing list
by Amit Bhatt April 20, 2014

April 20, 2014

All the subscribers of my mailing list are unable to post the messages and getting the below error in return: The service provider is not being able to get the solution, any advise from anyone? This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post sayeverything_sayeverything.… [View More]org generated by sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org local delivery failed The following text was generated during the delivery attempt: ------ pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman post sayeverything_sayeverything.org generated by sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org ------ Could not exec '/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/mailman' ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ Return-path: <misterbhatt(a)gmail.com> Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.160.49]:49085) by hwa3.ultrahost.us with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <misterbhatt(a)gmail.com>) id 1WbYOq-0007Qr-8m for sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:45:58 -0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id jt11so2373073pbb.22 for <sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org>; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:45:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=A9r8gW5KaDlTuOP5nfFpOUSUu3BjBxTKSXwlt4MwJKg=; b=j/1yGY6DtYBF2zE5Gj8MZ2E0P3g1FGSna1GXLpVXasOAyzDAMn1i43oBownIyYxm/X smKIPT6v5O6jETNiQ7ftdeMSGVrsAThW+6KUrlccgGBFAolT77kdXsQq0hTBBNgoIE2c kKiNDnm7anjIPT/uUUPvFGQ96UJN5DEZhrrSDHF5ncfR0ec/RqK7Maq8v1Cp1bYXnulr VQh5IK6oKjdpYibWymoqW1iD/VG1QGj3W5Z6mrUKyJCjLu9FnW5wxOtBQAupT4iWmlpY e9b70FlCwC7yGeXHNCHAPps9HaiLFfOBplcoJLqp1PzIf7PKyI4oJH+VeL29sjnvFBqx 6bsg== X-Received: by 10.66.148.70 with SMTP id tq6mr28629871pab.56.1397925957183; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adminPC ([115.242.99.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oa3sm67153389pbb.15.2014.04.19.09.45.53 for <sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9BDE5953C3834B7B8C104C8CEEC7EDBF@adminPC> From: "Amit Bhatt" <misterbhatt(a)gmail.com> To: <sayeverything(a)sayeverything.org> Subject: Test Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 22:16:08 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CF5C1C.F68D0370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 X-Spam-Score: -7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-Ham-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "hwa3.ultrahost.us", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see root\@localhost for details. Content preview: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (misterbhatt[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.160.49 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Spam-Flag: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CF5C1C.F68D0370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CF5C1C.F68D0370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 10.00.9200.16635"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>    = </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CF5C1C.F68D0370-- [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Seeing your own sig appear in (someone else's) email to the list
by Laura Creighton April 19, 2014

April 19, 2014

Some long dormant bits in my brain are remembering something like this happening when the MIME type application/pgp-signature was introduced. Before then, people were using application/pgp for such things, and some were using other things like pgp-encrypt. If the signature problem is a pgp signature problem, these docs may prove illuminating. http://www.phildev.net/pgp/pgp_clear_vs_mime.html http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2015.txt Laura

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Seeing your own sig appear in (someone else's) email to the list
by Conrad G T Yoder April 18, 2014

April 18, 2014

One of my users on one of my lists is seeing something odd. His own signatures are appearing on other people’s emails sent to a Mailman (2.1.14) list. Some points of info: - He has his own domain, hosted by google - Email is read on the web (not sure which browser) - It appears on some, but not all list posts - Started happening “about a week ago” - I do not see his signatures when the same emails come to me, nor are they in the archive. - He is a list admin and moderator. The list is fully … [View More]

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Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, "Service Unavailable".
by Mark London April 18, 2014

April 18, 2014

Hi - Starting this week, I've discovered that emails sent from yahoo members on my mailing lists, are not getting delivered to other yahoo addresses on my mailing list, including the person who sent the message. My SMTP logs show that the message is getting rejected (see below). I'm positive that the reason this is happening, is because I have my mailing list configured to preserve the original email address, in the From: line, while putting the mailing list address in the Reply-To: If … [View More]

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DMARC and From header munging
by Lindsay Haisley April 18, 2014

April 18, 2014

It occurred to me that one possible variation on From: header munging which wouldn't break any applications depending on this being an actual, working address for a post's author, while still passing DMARC authentication, would be for Mailman to change the From: address to a VERP-like address with the author's address encapsulated within an address @ the list server. Any mail received by the list server for this address would have its address parsed by Mailman and be redirected to the original … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman
by Laura Creighton April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:41:15 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >The issue is msg_footer is assumed to be in the character set of the >list's language, us-ascii by default for English. I don't think Mailman >does the right thing in this case. >From my perspective, the problem is that by having these things defined in mm_cfg.py, all mailman administrators are stuck with whatever decisions their mailman host made for whatever language they chose as the default language for … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman
by Laura Creighton April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:54:19 +0200, Laura Creighton writes: >In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:41:15 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >>The issue is msg_footer is assumed to be in the character set of the >>list's language, us-ascii by default for English. I don't think Mailman >>does the right thing in this case. > >>From my perspective, the problem is that by having these things >defined in mm_cfg.py, all mailman administrators are stuck with >… [View More]

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Upgrade 2.1.14 to 2.1.17 on Ubuntu Question
by Richard Shetron April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

I've searched the list and found enough related posts that this looks like it should be simple just reinstall, hopefully with the original PREFIX settings and probably diff the old and new mm_cfg.py files just to catch all the changes/new features/etc. I have visual problems so my eyes often go fuzzy if I do too much computer work at one time. However I find there may be a complication from a problem made from the initial install of 2.1.14. The initial install was done as user mailman, group … [View More]

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Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman
by Laura Creighton April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

I am trying to understand how charset encoding works, and I get the distinct idea that I must be missing one small, vital piece of information. Background: The problem arose as follows: Somebody changed the footer of the EuroPython Mailing list which is hosted at python.org to be: EuroPython 2014 \x96 Berlin, 21th\x9627th July Note the two \x96 s. The intent was almost certainly to have this string interpreted by the windows-1252 charset, where \x96 means a en dash. But the Europython … [View More]

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DMARC
by jason fb April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

Isn't this DMARC issue a bellwether for the end of email lists as we know them? It seems to me that the means of production (the internet backbone, the mail servers, etc) are now owned by Big Media (Comcast, Walt Disney, CBS, Viacom, Time Warner) and it is in their interest to make sure they can sell as much advertising as possible to the cattle. People who operate Mailman servers (you guys) are just the little guys who are helping people facilitate non-advertisable communication between the … [View More]

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Seeking suggestion for better services for mailing list
by Amit Bhatt April 17, 2014

April 17, 2014

We are using the services from ultrahost.us There is no response from Ultrahost team in spite of our several tickets loged. Is anyone confronting the similar issue with them? I think now we may again have to change the service provider where we can get unlimited traffic with mailman as per the requirement. Do we have any hosting provider in India or Asia region? IN US we do face gap in communication when it comes to get the solution. Thanks, Amit Bhatt These days our list is out of function … [View More]

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Accessing sub-letter search lists
by Conrad G T Yoder April 16, 2014

April 16, 2014

[Using Mailman 2.1.14 on a hosted service] I have a large list (7600 addresses), and when I search for a list of users of a popular domain (e.g. yahoo.com), I of course get a large result set back - sometimes more than 50 beginning with a particular letter. On those addresses with more than 50 starting with a common letter, they are of course split up, but when I click on another of the sub-letter lists, the “Find” string disappears in the search results and I’m back to a subset of the whole … [View More]

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Reconfiguring Mailman with different with-cgi-gid
by Jon 1234 April 16, 2014

April 16, 2014

Dear all I used the following when setting up Mailman 2.14: ./configure --prefix=ZZZ/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon --with-cgi-gid=www --with-username=ZZZ --with-groupname=users --with-python=ZZZ/bin/python To upgrade PHP from 5.2 to 5.3 the website hosts have to enable suexec (I don't quite understand this but bear with me!) which breaks Mailman, I think because it runs as a different user to before. Can I reconfigure Mailman using this? ./configure --prefix=ZZZ/mailman --with-mail-gid=daemon -… [View More]

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