Mailman 3 August 2014 - Mailman-Users

.psv files in /var/spool/mailman/in 2.1.9
by Will Yardley 02 Sep '14

02 Sep '14

I found some .psv files in /var/spool/mailman/in/ (RHEL 5 Mailman package; 2.1.9). That seems to be too early for the stuff mentioned here (and I don't see those options in Defaults.py) https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-June/066395.html Is it safe to remove old .psv files in this directory directly via find / cron? w

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Mailman is being a processor sponge.... very slow delivery...
by Ecklund, Morgan 01 Sep '14

01 Sep '14

Hello Listers, I migrated to a VMware ESXI environment from an old P3/512 MB mailman server (RedHat/sendmail, mailman had been upgraded to 2.1.x (I think)). The new environment is CentoOS 6.2 Postfix Mailman 2.1.16rc2. The new mailman environment is a processor sponge (clearly not an all-natural hand collected sponge either) So we noticed right off the bat that Mailman was maxing the processor and filling memory and later I found that it was filling up the hard drive... I had the ESXI admin add another processor and memory. Fixed the memory problem. Mailman.py is still taking up of 90 % of one processor. I sent a message at 10 :50 AM I can see from the maillog that it was received by the server at 10:50 and at 3:24 I have still not received the message that it is being moderated. Where is it hung up how can I clear it out? Morgan Ecklund

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Conceal list address?
by Cedric Knight 31 Aug '14

31 Aug '14

Hello I'm a site admin. A list owner is using their list to send a newsletter to 30,000 recipients, with emergency moderation on, and an explicit Reply-To, and "anonymous_list". Some recipients if they need to reply will use "Reply", which usually goes to the intended sender. However, some will use "Reply All" or "Reply List" which will send a copy to the list address. These messages are held for moderation. The problem arises because it seems one of the list moderators tends to approve all pending replies - replies, Out of office messages, invitations to social networks. Despite repeated requests, undesired messages are continuing to be approved, which of course can confuse and annoy recipients. What I'd like to do is rewrite From and To lines to be the editorial address, like the Reply-To, so that the list address does not appear in the visible headers. Is there any way to do this in Mailman? (If not, I'm likely to do it in Postfix, and RFC 5321 3.7.1 seems to say this is legal.) Thanks CK

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Question about Error: 'The list overview page has been disabled temporarily'
by Peter Fiala 31 Aug '14

31 Aug '14

I thought our public lists were showing on our website but I guess not. Any ideas on how to enable the overview page? Thanks, Peter Peter Fiala Technology & Events Coordinator Wisconsin Coalition Against Sexual Assault (WCASA) 2801 W. Beltline Hwy., Ste 202, Madison, WI 53713 Telephone: 608-257-1516; Direct: 608-284-5494 Fax: 608-257-2150 Website: www.wcasa.org<http://www.wcasa.org/> Creating the Social Change Necessary to End Sexual Violence Please consider a holiday gift to help us continue our important work into 2014. You can make donations to WCASA directly online by visiting our website<http://www.wcasa.org/>. [link to wcasa's Facebook page]<http://www.facebook.com/wcasa> [link to wcasa's Twitter feed] <http://twitter.com/wcasa_vpcc> [https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8fWOIOHiKkDuBEon9eoc…] <http://www.youtube.com/user/wcasavpcc> Registration Open 9/25: Regional SART Meeting<http://www.wcasa.org/pages/Intervention_SART.php> 10/8: WCASA Webinar Series: ALL*<http://www.wcasa.org/file_open.php?id=814> Save the Date 9/10-11: Fall Directors Meeting<http://www.wcasa.org/pages/Events-DVSATribal-Program-Director-Meeting.php> 10/4: Survivors & Allies Fall Meeting<http://www.wcasa.org/pages/Events-Surviviors-&-Allies.php> 11/3-6: SAVAS <http://www.wcasa.org/pages/Events_SAVAS.php>11/13: WCASA Annual Meeting<http://www.wcasa.org/pages/Events-Annual-Meeting-2014.php>

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how to identify subscribed address?
by Andrew Watson 30 Aug '14

30 Aug '14

A subscriber has asked to be removed from my list. The addresses he suggests are not subscribed. I asked that he forward an example of a received message, with all headers visible, so that I could identify the problem address. But the subscriber address does not appear anywhere in the headers. Is there a way to figure out the problem address? -Andrew

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Emails lost due to receipient spam filters
by Alan Meyer 29 Aug '14

29 Aug '14

Hi, I recently set up a Ubuntu 14.04 server with Mailman 2.1.16. It took a while for me to configure because I needed to modify the setup procedure from Ubuntu's instructions to what the mailman documentation suggested (no use of the postfix-to-mailman.py script). At any rate, my main goal has been to use mailman for an Indian Guides group, which for years has just been an email list of about 50 people. Mailman seemed like a great option to help ensure that all of the members are accounted for in each email and to have archives available. The problem that I'm having is that for some people on the list, they don't reliably get their emails. Mostly, this is from members that are on gmail.com or hotmail.com or in some cases ymail.com. The "lost" emails get stuck in their spam filter, and in some cases hotmail users don't get their emails at all. I did some testing with a practice list I created (sending to my own set of yahoo, gmail accounts), where my yahoo account was sending to members on a gmail account. I found no issue sending directly from yahoo to gmail, but from yahoo->mail list->gmail got caught in the gmail's spam filter. The gmail account spam folder would flag it and give me a note something to the effect of "The sender's yahoo.com address could not be confirmed". Furthermore, in the gmail account, I can mark the email as "Not SPAM" but that doesn't help on subsequent emails. As an experiment, I changed a few settings (from default Yes to No), but these didn't seem to make a difference: - Should messages from this mailing list include the RFC 2369 (i.e. List-*) headers? Yes is highly recommended. - Should postings include the List-Post: header? - Should the Sender header be rewritten for this mailing list to avoid stray bounces? Yes is recommended. My search for SPAM hasn't helped (most SPAM issues are related to actual SPAM getting in from user accounts). Have others encountered this type of issue? Are there any settings I can use or steps I can take to help resolve this? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, -Alan

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DNS error behaviour with DMARC
by Jeff White 28 Aug '14

28 Aug '14

With dmarc_moderation_notice set to anything but "Accept" Mailman will do a DNS query for every message that comes in and check the DMARC record of the sending domain. I have two questions regarding this: 1. Has anyone on this list noticed any performance issues with the overhead this adds? I doubt there is anything noticeable but curious if anyone has seen any issue. 2. What is Mailman's behaviour if the query fails (e.g. times out)? Defaults.py says: # Parameters for DMARC DNS lookups. If you are seeing 'DNSException: # Unable to query DMARC policy ...' entries in your error log, you may need # to adjust these. # The time to wait for a response from a name server before timeout. DMARC_RESOLVER_TIMEOUT = seconds(3) # The total time to spend trying to get an answer to the question. DMARC_RESOLVER_LIFETIME = seconds(5) ... but what happens to the post when DNSException is thrown? Is the message rejected and a bounce sent to the poster? Is it re-queued and tried again? If so when does Mailman give up? Does Mailman simply shunt the post and throw an error? If someone can point me to the file that holds this code I can review it and report what the behaviour is. -- Jeff White - GNU+Linux Systems Administrator University of Pittsburgh - CSSD

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Questions about Content Filtering
by Nancy 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

Hi folks, I am not very technically inclined and I'm the co- listkeeper for a group. We have had some problems lately and we were wondering what would happen if we made changes to the Content Filtering section of the Admin page? If : multipart/mixed multipart/alternative were removed would the listkeepers, as owners of the group receive bounces from everyone who tried to send formatted text? If these two lines were changed from "Yes" to "No" what would happen? Should Mailman collapse multipart/alternative to its first part content? No Yes X<http://lists.oso-aa.org/mailman/admin/grow/?VARHELP=contentfilter/collapse_…> Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. No Yes X Examples of our current problem: 1.This Â at the end of every sentence & inserted in several places in sentences: Louise can't get email.Â 2. One continuous paragraph arrives when the sender had made appropriate paragraphs 3. Complete gibberish: MLN13:46 UTCâ4 \Ý[]Z\NÚ\YHÛÛH\Ú\YP(a)arthlink.net> Ø]°ê\Ù[ÛÛYHÈÔÕÎ[\Ü\HMentor hi from Jessi first nine days > > Hi Sherrie Day 10 :) Fæ²÷Rf÷"6V6¶ærââÆ÷fRFRw&÷W. Reading the threads in my inbox every day <http://lists.oso-aa.org/mailman/admin/grow/?VARHELP=contentfilter/convert_h…> Are these problems caused by many people now using cell phones & tablets to send email? Thank you for your patience & any help you might provide. Nancy

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Fwd: Mailing list lag to SOME users
by Kevin Carpenter 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

Hi all. Been casually fighting a problem for a couple of months now and have finally decided to ask for help. I have a somewhat large mailing list, about 1700 users, that is generally working just fine. However, some users are seeing LONG delays (like 4+ hours) on mail delivery while other users, in the same organization, get sub-minute delivery. Specifically, the step 6 delay in the header analysis below is typically 2 seconds. In the header analysis below please note that mail.seaplace.org and spoe.seaplace.org are just two names (DNS A records) pointing to the same box. The postfix main.cf mydestination parameter includes both. I highly suspect this is something within Postfix and hope the list's extensive experience might help. Thanks in advance, Kevin Second: --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

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I'm Stuck
by Anthony (N2KI) 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

Tried to start mailman and this is what I get. Not sure how to proceed. It appears that is is looking for a list names mailman but I do not know how to create it. pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /etc/init.d/mailman start Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists", line 122, in <module> main() File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists", line 94, in main mlist = MailList.MailList(n, lock=0) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ self.Load() File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 650, in Load dict, e = self.__load(file) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 615, in __load fp = open(dbfile) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman/config.pck' [warn] Site list for mailman missing (looking for list named 'mailman'). ... (warning). [warn] Please create it; until then, mailman will refuse to start. ... (warning). pi@raspberrypi ~ $ Regards, Anthony

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