Mailman 3 September 2014 - Mailman-Users

Moderated list, letting some users be unmoderated, and with emails addressed to multiple recipients.
by Steve 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

Hi, I'm a moderator on a GNU Mailman list running version 2.1.13. <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html> The list moderated, all posts come to me for approval. I have a few very trustworthy and regular posters that I have set as unmoderated to save myself some work. The problem is that they send their emails to multiple lists/recipients and when they do I am still forced to approve their posts. Is there an option in the GUI front end I can set on these users to let their posts straight through regardless? Thanks Steve

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Moderator Passwords
by David Andrews 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

Every time I go to provide a Moderator for one of my lists it seems to take several tries to get the password to take. That is I fill in the e-mail of the moderator on the general settings page, and type in their password on the passwords page. Then it never seems to work for them -- I end up changing password several times until it eventually seems to take. Ami I missing something? Are there restrictions on the password? Does the e-mail have restrictions or qualifications? Why is this always so difficult? Dave David Andrews and long white cane Harry. E-Mail: dandrews(a)visi.com or david.andrews(a)nfbnet.org

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.psv files in /var/spool/mailman/in 2.1.9
by Will Yardley 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

I found some .psv files in /var/spool/mailman/in/ (RHEL 5 Mailman package; 2.1.9). That seems to be too early for the stuff mentioned here (and I don't see those options in Defaults.py) https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-June/066395.html Is it safe to remove old .psv files in this directory directly via find / cron? w

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is being a processor sponge.... very slow delivery...
by Ecklund, Morgan 03 Sep '14

03 Sep '14

Thanks So much Stephen, I just wanted make sure I got this in writing. And document what I had to do to fix the loop you found (more savy folks may have done it faster) I tried to use a text editor, but of course it did not (could not lock the file) Tried to create the change_owner script and use withlist, as advised be Mark Shapiro, but would not run Change_owner module not loaded... but that is what I was telling it to load. So I got a wild hair. I stopped mailman service. I could then go into the mailman list UI. I changed the owner to a physical account. Restarted mailman.. Qrunner was still pegged at 99% Stopped it again. Went into the UI again (had to wait a minute for the qrunner to spin down) went to tend to moderated items Checked "discard all messages marked defer" Restarted Mailman is no longer absorbent Thanks Again! Morgan -----Original Message----- From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:stephen@xemacs.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 7:43 AM To: Ecklund, Morgan Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is being a processor sponge.... very slow delivery... Ecklund, Morgan writes: > I am pretty sure it has been hacked. It looks normal to me. > Can you look at the the dumpdb of the mailman list. > "relay.comanche.denmark.eu\nfrom:" > Just seems out of place. No, it's just a very very old default that hasn't been changed. Back in the late 1990s (!!!) the headers indicated by > 'bounce_matching_headers': "\n# Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments.\nto: friend(a)public.com\nmessage-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu\nfrom: list(a)listme.com\nfrom: .*(a)uplinkpro.com\n", ie, # Lines that *start* with a '#' are comments. to: friend(a)public.com message-id: relay.comanche.denmark.eu from: list(a)listme.com from: .*(a)uplinkpro.com were famous for reliably indicating spam. The example regexps haven't been changed since then, that's all. Aha! This variable > 'owner': [ 'mailman(a)list.education.state.vt.us', > 'list-admin(a)education.state.vt.us'], is probably your immediate problem. It's OK for a list's owner email to be another list, but it should not be itself. It's very likely to cause a loop where a post causes an error, which cause an error message to go to owner, which is the list, but that causes another error, and this repeats ad infinitum as fast as your CPU and disks can handle it. It's almost as likely to loop if mailman@ is the owner of @list-admin and vice-versa, so don't do that either. At least one of your lists needs to have all its owner addresses be regular mailboxes. The way I set it up at XEmacs.org is that all lists (including mailman(a)xemacs.org) have owner xemacs-services(a)xemacs.org (which is also the real webmaster etc), except that xemacs-services itself is owned by me and a couple of other volunteers. The owner list for that list is maintained by hand. Yes, you'd think that it would be easy to recognize such a mail loop and Mailman would just stop looping, and indeed humans can. But it turns out to be really hard to do automatically, since by definition when an error message is generated to owner the system is in some bizarre state. Everything else looks fine to me. If you take mailman@ out of the owners' address list, it should stop the loop, and take a big load off the CPU and disks. Steve

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Mailman is being a processor sponge.... very slow delivery...
by Ecklund, Morgan 01 Sep '14

01 Sep '14

Hello Listers, I migrated to a VMware ESXI environment from an old P3/512 MB mailman server (RedHat/sendmail, mailman had been upgraded to 2.1.x (I think)). The new environment is CentoOS 6.2 Postfix Mailman 2.1.16rc2. The new mailman environment is a processor sponge (clearly not an all-natural hand collected sponge either) So we noticed right off the bat that Mailman was maxing the processor and filling memory and later I found that it was filling up the hard drive... I had the ESXI admin add another processor and memory. Fixed the memory problem. Mailman.py is still taking up of 90 % of one processor. I sent a message at 10 :50 AM I can see from the maillog that it was received by the server at 10:50 and at 3:24 I have still not received the message that it is being moderated. Where is it hung up how can I clear it out? Morgan Ecklund

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Conceal list address?
by Cedric Knight 01 Sep '14

01 Sep '14

Hello I'm a site admin. A list owner is using their list to send a newsletter to 30,000 recipients, with emergency moderation on, and an explicit Reply-To, and "anonymous_list". Some recipients if they need to reply will use "Reply", which usually goes to the intended sender. However, some will use "Reply All" or "Reply List" which will send a copy to the list address. These messages are held for moderation. The problem arises because it seems one of the list moderators tends to approve all pending replies - replies, Out of office messages, invitations to social networks. Despite repeated requests, undesired messages are continuing to be approved, which of course can confuse and annoy recipients. What I'd like to do is rewrite From and To lines to be the editorial address, like the Reply-To, so that the list address does not appear in the visible headers. Is there any way to do this in Mailman? (If not, I'm likely to do it in Postfix, and RFC 5321 3.7.1 seems to say this is legal.) Thanks CK

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Question about Error: 'The list overview page has been disabled temporarily'
by Peter Fiala 01 Sep '14

01 Sep '14

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