Mailman 3 September 2014 - Mailman-Users

Exim4... sorry to ask...
by James Nightly 12 Sep '14

12 Sep '14

I have routes and transport setup in Exim4. Its driving me crazy. I keep getting the same rejected RCPT Unrouteable address and I don't know why. exim4 -bt mailman(a)lists.myschool.org R: system_aliases for mailman(a)lists.myschool.org mailman(a)lists.myschool.org is undeliverable: Unrouteable address Any tips or suggestions where to look, I've been at it for days now... exim -C /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template -bV Exim version 4.84 #3 built 29-Aug-2014 18:08:29 Copyright (c) University of Cambridge, 1995 - 2014 (c) The Exim Maintainers and contributors in ACKNOWLEDGMENTS file, 2007 - 2014 Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9, 2013) Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 GnuTLS move_frozen_messages DKIM PRDR OCSP Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmjz dbmnz dnsdb dsearch nis nis0 passwd Authenticators: cram_md5 plaintext Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral manualroute queryprogram redirect Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore autoreply lmtp pipe smtp Fixed never_users: 0 Size of off_t: 8 Configuration file is /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template 220 lists.myschool.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:27:26 -0700 [5756 ms] EHLO MXTB-PWS3.mxtoolbox.com 250-lists.myschool.org Hello mxtb-pws3.mxtoolbox.com [64.20.227.133] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-8BITMIME 250-PIPELINING 250 HELP [671 ms] MAIL FROM: <supertool(a)mxtoolbox.com> 250 OK [671 ms] RCPT TO: <test(a)example.com> 550 relay not permitted [686 ms] MXTB-PWS3v2 8674ms

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localhost.localdomain problem
by Mustafa Akgul 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

I am running mailman lists on several machines, whixh are mostly debian and solaris. I have once virtual machine which is debian also. debian 7 with kernel Linux listweb 2.6.32-29-pve #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 10:03:02 CEST 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux from dpkg -l mailman 1:2.1.15-1 amd64 I have setup a list say math, it distrobutes messages OK but on moderation page any request to accept, deny fail with Firefox can't find the server at localhost.localdomain. servername in the URL becomes localhost.localdomain and telnet localhost 80 and telnet localhost.localdomain 80 are OK any ideas / suggestions Regards Mustafa Akgul

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Administrative requests for mailing list failing
by James Nightly 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

I'm unable to approve, discard, or do anything on the administrative requests for mailing list. Selecting any of the options for an email that's held for approval (and clicking on Submit All Data) simply refreshes the page and the emails and all admin requests are still on the page. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this, if its apache/exim4, what log to check...

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admins
by A.K. Eyma 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Hello, I'm new here, so not sure if this is appropriate: In regards to FAQ 3.27: Am I the only one who would find it extremely helpful if duties could be better split? Certainly for large lists. That is: Owners = who can determine the list's configuration Admins = who handle subscriptions and bounces Moderators = who handle list messages If needed admin/mod could be combined as one. Or alternatively, that you can specify an email address for each Notification? The current problem is that in academic lists, the owner/sponsor of a forum often needs to be an University staff member, who however would delegate daily running to students etc (mods). But with Mailman, on a bad day, the poor Prof would get 70 messages per day (bounces, subscription, approvals, etc). It's not workable IMHO (I'm a mod BTW). AFAICT in the present system, reducing mail to an owner can only be done by setting admin_immed_notify, bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner, bounce_notify_owner_on_disable, and bounce_notify_owner_on_removal, (and a few more) to NO, which is clearly not an ideal solution...well, no solution at all, really. Any thoughts? Any chance of this duties seperation [i.e. owners are nót automatically mods], being implemented in future versions? Best regards, Aayko

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dangers of using subject_prefix with new DMARC problems
by Matthew Taylor 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Hello all, I'm a Mailman administrator for the lists at http://numenta.org/lists. Recently, we had DMARC problems with Google servers, and my provider (EMWD) gave me the following actions to take: http://clientarea.emwd.com/knowledgebase/60/DMARC-and-Mailman.html We ended up moving the lists to a VPS with the new settings. Many of our users are upset that I've removed the subject_prefix from the list emails, but I'm afraid that putting them back in might cause the same problems, given the advice from EMWD in the link above: "2. Turn off Content filtering, and Reply-To: header munging and remove subject_prefix, msg_header and msg_footer so Mailman doesn't make message modifications that break Yahoo's DKIM signature." Is it safe to add back the subject_prefix to my lists? Thank you, --------- Matt Taylor OS Community Flag-Bearer Numenta

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unsubscribe footer?
by James Nightly 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Somehow I managed to remove unsubscribe footer in my mailing list. Is it possible to append to all lists instructions on how to unsubscribe? I'm hoping subscribers can send 'remove' email to an address and get removed from the list automatically.

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Customizing information required for subscription
by Charlene Ruell 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Hello all, I am working with a non-profit organization to establish a new home for our plethora of mailing lists. Mailman has quite a few features that we are hoping will automate our currently labour intensive process. Currently, part of our subscription process involves gathering additional information, such as which one of our member organizations the person requesting access if from. We then match this information to our records and subscribe those who are eligible. I have looked through all of the documentation for Mailman and have not been able to find if there are customizable fields for the subscription process. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any suggestions on how I might integrate such information with the subscription process? Many thanks in advance! Warm Regards, Charlene Ruell ______________________________________ Charlene Ruell Program Assistant Climate Action Network-International (CAN) skype: charlene.ruell <mailto:cruell@climatenetwork.org> cruell(a)climatenetwork.org <http://www.climatenetwork.org/> www.climatenetwork.org <http://www.facebook.com/CANInternational> www.facebook.com/CANInternational Twitter: @CANIntl Subscribe to the ECO newsletter: <http://climatenetwork.org/eco-newsletters> http://climatenetwork.org/eco-newsletters

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Fixing the implicit destination problems
by James Nightly 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

Is it possible to have Mailman lists email an individual directly instead of using an implicit destination email (for the list)? We are getting a lot of messages blocked or ending up in spam folders. For example, when I send an email to my_list(a)list.school.org all of the 400 parents should get an email directly TO: parent_email(a)gmail.com, and not TO: my_list(a)list.school.org In other words I would like recipient email to be substituted by Mailman and their email address substituted as receivers, instead of using the implicit TO: mailing list email address. Thanks!

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Configuring Exim4 with Mailman
by Richard Ibbotson 09 Sep '14

09 Sep '14

Hi Don't if I should be asking this question here but I'll try anyway. I suppose I should ask on the Exim list but I'm not sure about Mailman configuration. I've read a lot of web pages about configuration and searched a lot with Google. I'm not getting there. I'm setting up a Mailman list to run with Exim4. Debian Squeeze. In /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py I've set these extra parameters.... DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'list.domain.org' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'www.domain.org' MTA=None DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' Is this correct ? Do I need to add something else. Sending mail with ....echo "This is a test." | mail -s Testing richard.ibbotson(a)gmail.com - works for me. Mail arrives at my Gmail account. Mail arrives from - root(a)hostname.domain.org My Exim4 conf file looks like this... /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf dc_eximconfig_configtype='internet' dc_other_hostnames='hostname.domain.org; hostname; localhost.localdomain; localhost' dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1' dc_readhost='' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='' CFILEMODE='644' dc_use_split_config='false' dc_hide_mailname='' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' DNS looks good. Firewall ports opened for www and smtp and pop3. The Exim4 /var/log/exim4/mainlog looks like this... 2014-09-08 13:23:51 exim 4.80 daemon started: pid=27351, -q30m, listening for SMTP on [127.0.0.1]:25 2014-09-08 13:53:52 1XQtTa-0004wk-10 == root(a)mail.domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:52 1XQwfx-0006Wr-5a == list(a)host.domain.org R=local_user T=maildir_home defer (2): No such file or directory: failed to chdir to /var/list 2014-09-08 13:53:52 1XQtTa-000513-Qk == root(a)mail.domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:52 1XQihA-0003BT-IF domain.org [178.62.38.94] Connection refused 2014-09-08 13:53:52 1XQihA-0003BT-IF == mailman-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (111): Connection refused 2014-09-08 13:53:53 1XQj9j-0003eX-4z == mailman-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:53 1XQj9j-0003eO-2H == mailman-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:53 1XQj9i-0003eI-VE == hostname-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:53 1XQj9j-0003eU-40 == hostname-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:54 1XQihA-0003BV-J7 == hostname-bounces(a)domain.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2014-09-08 13:53:54 End queue run: pid=28519 Anyone see what I'm doing wrong here ? -- Richard https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1

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Upgrade instructions
by G. Armour Van Horn 06 Sep '14

06 Sep '14

I have a couple of Mailman lists on a server happily running 2.1.9 but I am also a moderator on a very active list that's running on 2.1.12. I do not host this list, just volunteer because I have some experience with Mailman. That list has started to get some significant bounces due to the DMARC issue that isn't addressed in this older version. The host intends to upgrade so that we can address that but they report that they haven't been able to make archives searchable in their experimentation with 2.1.16. I don't know if that search function is part of the more recent versions of Pipermail or if they've installed something else. I'm nervous about attempting to upgrade, given the paucity of documentation for that, particularly the fact that it tells me to use the same configuration options I used for the current install and I haven't a clue what those might have been. If I could find some more robust upgrade docs I'd like to try the upgrade in case I could contribute anything to the problem with the large list. Today I had to clear the bounce flags on 47 members. Not all that hard, but tedious. Van -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sign up now for Quotes of the Day, a handful of quotations on a theme delivered every morning. Enlightenment! Daily, for free! http://www.qotd.org/subscribe.html For photography, web design, hosting, and maintenance, visit Van's home page: http://www.domainvanhorn.com/van/ -----------------------------------------------------------

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