Mailman 3 November 2015 - Mailman-Users

strange interaction between mailman and google docs
by Ottoson Webmaster Dec. 1, 2015

Dec. 1, 2015

I am seeing a strange problem and I am wondering if someone has any idea. I am using google docs to create a newsletter which I then send to a mailman mailing list. Within google docs I use the feature "Email as attachment" to send to the list. The mailman list has about 1000 addresses some of which are gmail addresses and some are not (yahoo, hotmail, etc.) Well, the email from google docs is *only* received by the gmail addresses in the mailing list but *not* by any of the other addresses. If I send the email with the attachment from google docs to a *single* non-google email, then I see no problems. If I send the email with the attachment from gmail (outside of google docs) to the entire list I see no problems. The problem is only *from google docs to non-google email in mailman list* Ideas? Thank you! Antonella

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List messages showing as attachments
by Lindsay Graham Dec. 1, 2015

Dec. 1, 2015

I hope this is the right place to ask this question -- if not, please direct me to the right place. I'm a subscriber to 2 Mailman lists, Ger-Poland-Volhynia list at sggee.org and TSS list at surname-society.org. I joined the former (with Individual messages) several years ago and it has always worked as expected. The TSS list is new and, as a member of TSS (The Surname Society), I was subscribed automatically to Digest mode, but very soon switched to Individual mode. All email messages that come from the list (both Digest and Individual) are blank except for the list footer and the real message is an attachment to that blank message. I always have to open that attachment to read the message but to reply, I have to reply to the blank message. It's my impression that very few other TSS list subscribers receive their messages in this way, and I've not so far been able to get any explanation form the TSS webmaster. I've checked the Mailman subscription options for both lists and the settings appear to be identical. My email client is Thunderbird 31.7 (not quite the latest version) running under Windows 8.1 64-bit. The problem with the TSS list exists whether I view the email in Thunderbird or my ISP's webmail. If anybody has any clues why the TSS messages should appear in this way, I'd be very grateful for your help/advice. Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia

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Text "Reappears" when MBox Archive Rebuilt
by Dave Arndt Nov. 30, 2015

Nov. 30, 2015

This is an odd one. I'm hoping there's a straight forward answer: 1) I edited our mbox archive (with vi) to remove some offensive content. (x, xx) 2) Saved the file. 3) Did a *grep* on the text that was removed - not found. 4) Uploaded the mbox file to a brand new server 5) Rebuilt the html archives using that mbox file. The text that was deleted in step #1 appears in the newly generated HTML archives!!! How could this be possible? Out of paranoia I went back to the mbox file that I uploaded, grep'd again - and also loaded the file into vi and searched for any of the text that was removed. Not found. Any ideas? This seems really, really strange. - Caught in a Parallel Universe

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command listinfo not in docroot (10005)
by Dave Arndt Nov. 28, 2015

Nov. 28, 2015

After installing mailman (with yum), I get an error when attempting to access the listinfo page: "Internal Server Error" Inspecting the logs in httpd, I see this in suexec-log: command listinfo not in docroot (10005) I do NOT have the option of disabling suexec. After considerable time spent looking into this, it seems that I need to have mailman installed under "DocumentRoot", which on my host appears to be /var/www/html Further reading indicates that i cannot use the "installroot" option on yum to change the installation root directory, UNLESS I've created my own custom RPM. That rules that out. So now, I'm resorting to 100% manual installation... My questions are: 1) Am I taking the right approach in solving this problem? That is, by installing under docroot, will it address the Apache suexec problem we're seeing? 2) If docroot is /var/www/html, do i create the mailman directory *directly* beneath the /var/www.html folder? i.e. - /var/www.html/mailman (that just doesn't seem right...?) Is there some other way to solve this problem? (Very difficult package to get installed and running, unless your a huge linux/mailman guru, I guess...) Thanks, - da

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corrupt list file?
by Steven Jones Nov. 27, 2015

Nov. 27, 2015

Hi, We lost our San and on bringing back our mailman server this alert happens every minute, the filesystems are read/write, but it had gone ro, so I rebooted the server, most lists seem to be working fine, ========== abrt_version: 2.0.8 cmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members isc event_log: executable: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members hostname: vuwunicomailmn1.vuw.ac.nz kernel: 2.6.32-573.7.1.el6.x86_64 last_occurrence: 1448480447 machineid: sosreport_uploader-dmidecode=932d92f15b5e914127493c105c3a0fb10af13399d0e4f82ddc20a6fc387628b8 pkg_arch: x86_64 pkg_epoch: 3 pkg_name: mailman pkg_release: 25.el6 pkg_version: 2.1.12 time: Wed 25 Nov 2015 10:00:56 PM NZDT uid: 99 username: nobody sosreport.tar.xz: Binary file, 1747868 bytes backtrace: :MailList.py:610:__load:IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/isc/config.pck' : :Traceback (most recent call last): : File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members", line 286, in <module> : main() : File "/usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members", line 230, in main : mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=False) : File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 130, in __init__ : self.Load() : File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 644, in Load : dict, e = self.__load(file) : File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 610, in __load : fp = open(dbfile) :IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/isc/config.pck' : :Local variables in innermost frame: :dbfile: '/var/lib/mailman/lists/isc/config.pck' :e: IOError(13, 'Permission denied') :self: <mailing list "isc" (unlocked) at 189a908> :loadfunc: <built-in function load> :mtime: 1448406079.5505853 ========== I dont quite understand why I am having this alert "permission denied" the filesystem is rw, ========== [root@vuwunicomailmn1 isc]# touch file [root@vuwunicomailmn1 isc]# ls -l total 908 -rw-rw----. 1 mailman mailman 459163 Nov 26 08:00 config.pck -rw-rw----. 1 mailman mailman 458617 Nov 26 08:00 config.pck.last -rw-r--r--. 1 root mailman 0 Nov 26 08:52 file -rw-rw----. 1 mailman mailman 133 Nov 20 10:19 pending.pck -rw-rw-r--. 1 mailman mailman 615 Nov 20 10:19 request.pck [root@vuwunicomailmn1 isc]# ========== is config.pck corrupt? regards Steven

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using topics
by Lucio Chiappetti Nov. 26, 2015

Nov. 26, 2015

I am one of the co-moderators of a restricted discussion list within our organization (a nationwide research institution). The list is restricted in the sense posting is allowed to subscribers only, and subscription is allowed only to staff, associates, and former members. So far we allowed also communications from the trade unions, in the sense they post a (signed) message from a non member account, it stops into moderation and one of the co-moderator lets it pass. We could have used also accept_these_nonmembers (as we do for recognized subscribers who post from alternate addresses) but since the various trade unions correspondents did not use a fixed address we did not do it. Now the trade unions requested to be allowed to subscribe as regular users from a fixed address, which would relieve us moderators from the need of manual acceptance. I hope this won't cause an excess of trade union related messages with respect to other messages, which can be resented by some of our users. I thought one possibility was to enable "topics", to allow users to decide whether they want to see such messages or not. I have some questions about topics. - can a user select to receive all messages EXCLUDING a particular topic ? It looks like the interface allows to subscribe to one topic, and also to receive topic-less messages ... but what about one wants to receive ONLY topic-less messages ? Assuming messages are classified as : - topic trade union - no topic Shall one create a dummy placeholder topic which will be never populated ? or how can one assign a default topic ? - can the mailman administrator assign topics based on the originator address instead of Subject or Keyword or regexp in the first n lines ? This may allow to tag the topics automatically (instead of relying on the originator using special tags, which is sort of hopeless) If it helps, the list is managed by mailman 2.1.12 and is not on a computer in my institute (I have 2.1.14 on my machine which I use for other lists). Neither me nor the administrators of the central site are keen to change. but if a more recent version is more suited for this sort of filtering we might consider it. Thanks -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do not like Firefox >=29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reverse chronological date order for archives
by ListGnome ProtonMail Nov. 26, 2015

Nov. 26, 2015

Hi Mark, I've tested the modified HyperDatabase.py file and it does indeed reverse the chronological order of the archives (but only in date view). And also as you said, it was necessary to "/bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME" to reverse any existing archives. Thanks again, Mark *** And the patch refactored for style against 2.1.20 is $ diff -u 2.1/Mailman/Archiver/HyperDatabase.py def first(self, archive, index): self.__openIndices(archive) + if index == 'date': + dateIndex = 1 + else: + dateIndex = 0 index = getattr(self, index + 'Index') try: + if dateIndex == 1: + index.sorted.reverse() key, msgid = index.first() return msgid except KeyError:

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Installing Mailman
by Dave Arndt Nov. 24, 2015

Nov. 24, 2015

I'm trying to install Mailman 3.0 on CentOS 7.1 checking Mailman status, it shows that its "running". To test the installation, I'm trying to access http://domain.com/mailman/listinfo I receive a "500 Internal Server Error". How do I determine what's wrong? Which logs should I look at? Where can I find truly comprehensive documentation? All the installation docs I've found online seem to be just a little bit different - and none of them provide insight on troubleshooting problems like the one above. Thanks in advance for your insight. - da

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spam coming through a moderated list after a shunt
by Fil Nov. 24, 2015

Nov. 24, 2015

Hello, a spam went through a moderated list today, and the story is weird. Here's what I understand/ (mailman version 2.1.20) First, the message was received and rejected by the list moderators logs/vette.log:Nov 22 14:56:45 2015 (10257) Message rejected, msgid: < 20151122135632.C128E412040 at mst135.mdreg-mstnew.qlc.co.in> Then, the (rejected!) message was sent to the list members; logs/post.log:Nov 22 17:05:41 2015 (15369) post to spip-ann from mails at clovertourism.com, size=4374, message-id=< 20151122135632.C128E412040 at mst135.mdreg-mstnew.qlc.co.in>, success logs/smtp.log:Nov 22 17:05:41 2015 (15369) < 20151122135632.C128E412040 at mst135.mdreg-mstnew.qlc.co.in> smtp to spip-ann for 2880 recips, completed in 2.228 seconds The "reason" why this went through at 17+ is that I have a cron job that tries to unshunt messages each day at that hour. So the (discarded then shunted) message was unshunt and sent to the list. logs/error.log:Nov 22 14:56:44 2015 (10257) IOError reading list extension: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory: '/var/local/mailman/lists/spip-ann/extend.py' logs/error.log:Nov 22 14:56:45 2015 (10257) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory: '/var/local/mailman/qfiles/virgin' logs/error.log:Nov 22 14:56:45 2015 (10257) Traceback (most recent call last): logs/error.log:Nov 22 14:56:45 2015 (10257) SHUNTING: 1448200600.413774+c9883eaaeaec5a744cfe6a49237d51c2c0373b98 -- Fil (sorry for the initial message with wrong subject line)

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Problem pgp signed messages
by Alain Williams Nov. 24, 2015

Nov. 24, 2015

I am trying to allow signed messages on a mail list. I added multipart/signed & application/pgp-signature to pass_mime_types which stopped signed emails being rejected by mailman. My problem is that the signature attachment is being stripped from the message. What should I be doing ? Thanks in advance. At the location: /mailman/admin/ListName/contentfilter I have: filter_content yes filter_mime_types empty pass_mime_types multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain multipart/signed application/pgp-signature message/rfc822 filter_filename_extensions exe bat cmd com pif scr vbs cpl pass_filename_extensions empty collapse_alternatives yes convert_html_to_plaintext yes filter_action reject I am running mailman 2.1.18-1 on CentOS 6.7. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php #include <std_disclaimer.h>

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