Mailman 3 December 2015 - Mailman-Users

Editing Mailman's text files
by Pete Bell 08 May '24

08 May '24

Hi. I'm a new member of this group but have been running an email list with Mailman for a long time. I am now setting a list up again and want to give a "look and feel" to the list which has more branding of my user group as a whole, and less of a Mailman-feel. I seem to remember that besides editing the public HTML pages, it is possible to edit the text files which Mailman automatically sends out for certain needs (such as 'approve.txt', 'adminsubscribeack.txt', 'invite.txt', and so on). A. Is this still the case? B. If so, where can I find them? (in case they've changed from the ones I have from long ago). C. Where do they need putting, so that Mailman can use them again? It's important that I should tell you that Mailman on my webhosts servers is a "server-wide" installation, and I don't get to edit anything which other clients to their servers need. This would be only for my own use, and as such I need to know where these files go in my own webspace, and how to get Mailman to use them instead of the default ones. I should also say that I have done this before, so unless the facility to do this has been ditched in recent years, I *should* still be able to do it ! Does Mailman perhaps look for these files somewhere in my webspace (which I have to give a specific name), and if it doesn't find them it goes on to find its default versions of these files? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete Bell, UK

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Running two list with same email prefix
by Andrea Cappelli 27 Feb '24

27 Feb '24

Hi all, I'm running a mail server with Debian Lenny, MTA is Postfix and i will use postfix-to-mailma.py script to run list I would set up Mailman for running mailing list with same email prefix on different domains, obvious with different list names For example we have ml.domain1.com and ml.domain2.net, i would like to have LISTADDRESS LISTNAME tech(a)ml.domain1.com tech-ml.domain1.com tech(a)ml.domain.2.net tech-ml.domain2.net In this way i can have the same address on differente domains and Mailman (my version is 2.1.11) can distinguish between lists because the list name is different. The list name will be also used to access web interface, so we have http://ml.domain1.com/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain1.com http://ml.domain2.net/mailman/admin/tech-ml.domain2.net Is possible to accomplish this task? Any idea?

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Hide list address?
by Ricardo Kleemann 17 Nov '23

17 Nov '23

Hi, Is there any way to configure Mailman such that, for an announcement-only type list, when a message is sent to the list, the To: shows the member's address, rather than the list address? Some list software allows the ability to hide the list address itself, so that address is not advertised. I couldn't find any configuration specific to that.

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Using cronjob to remove and add members to a mailing list
by Jerry Barnabee 10 Aug '22

10 Aug '22

I want to be able to run a cronjob on my server that uses a php script to add new users and/or remove users from a mailing list. Not having any luck finding any simple examples. My thought is that the php script would get email addresses from a database (which I can do) and then feed them to a mailman command line to either add or remove a user. The cronjob is entered via Cpanel. Have several cronjobs that modify databases but have never tried something that would actually execute a unix command. Thanks, Pineyscripter

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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changing domains on Mailman implementation
by Keith Seyffarth 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Is there an efficient way to change the domain name that mailman is affiliated with? I have two mailing lists that were created for an organization before that organization had their own domain. At the time the organization was sure they did not want their own domain and would not be getting a domain. Since then, they have chosen to get a domain and set up a web site. I would like to move their mailing lists onto their domain. It looks like the process for this is: 1) get the list of subscribers 2) delete the mailing list from the one domain (losing the archives) 3) create the mailing list on the new domain 4) subscribe the list of subscribers This process doesn't seem too difficult, but I would prefer to keep the archives, if possible. Both domains are on the same server, running CentOS7 and PLESK 12.5, if that makes a difference. Thanks, Keith

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DMARC hack
by Allan Hansen 10 Apr '16

10 Apr '16

Hi, I have waited almost a year for AOL and Yahoo to admit that they messed up and to remove their DMARC policy. My AOL and Yahoo subscribers are pretty upset at me because I won’t let them post. A number now have two subscriptions, one for posting (from GMail) and another for receiving the messages. So against my better judgement, I included this hack in Cleanse.py; 22c22 < from email.Utils import formataddr, parseaddr — >from email.Utils import formataddr 69,74d68 < < # Added to deal with DMARC issuej < name, addrs = parseaddr(msg.get('from')) < addrs += '.invalid' < del msg['from'] < msg['from'] = formataddr((name, addrs)) \ No newline at end of file I found it in the discussion list. I don’t get compile errors, but Cleanse.pyc is not being updated. I have stopped and restarted Mailman and I have also rebooted, but same non-action. I have not tried ‘compileall’ and am not eager to, either (permissions, where to invoke, etc). Any suggestions? The host OS is Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 with Mailman 2.1.14 Yours, Allan

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mails send from sendmail with commandline to mailman become 'Message has implicit destination'
by MichaelLeung 29 Dec '15

29 Dec '15

hi all anyone had face this problem before ? if i send the mail from a client end , like thunder, mailman can read it correctly .

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated approval via email
by Adrian Pepper 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

I struggled with this problem until I unearthed this gem from the archive. In addition we were using aliases as moderators, so I thought that was the key problem, but subsequent testing suggests there is no such restriction. Is that correct? So it is alright to use an alias as list administrator or moderator, but moderator recipients must simply know the "trick" of replying to the contained message, not the overall message. I usually use an "heirloom-mailx"-like MUA and I assumed it was not smart enough to generate correct headers. But now I'm reasonably sure I could create a working response to the sub-message in a number of ways. I have a means to save a message into a mailbox where I can view it with Thunderbird on my workstation. But I don't really use Thunderbird much, mostly just to look at messages heavy with graphics and other noise. Took me a while to work out that you need to "Open all attachments" (somewhat hidden in a non-obvious menu, and there didn't seem to be a selective option) which would give you a window you could reply to. And voila! I finally managed to get that pending posting to disappear! And after I removed my email address from both owner and moderator boxes, I still seemed to be able to dicard another pending posting. I struggled so long with this I thought I'd post my dumpster diving and added observations in case it helped anyone else. I didn't find anything like the following in a FAQ. Note also, that this moderation message is a multipart/mixed message and the part that says "If you reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact ..." is it's own message/rfc822 part and it's that message part you must reply to with the Approved: <password> line, not the "outer" message. Perhaps mention of this should be added. My apologies if it's already there and my web and keyword searches overlooked it. Now I know what to look for, I find more recent coverage on the list. https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg64564.html (May 2014) Adrian. Mark Sapiro msapiro at value.net wrote Thu Feb 10 01:58:46 CET 2005 > > Previous message: [Mailman-Users] Moderated approval via email > Next message: [Mailman-Users] Auto Subscriptions to Mailman list > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] > > Pantejo, Barbara FTL wrote: > > > >As the list admin/moderator, I received an email to approve a posting to a > >particular mailing list, but the instructions on approving via a reply email > >is confusing: > > > >"If you reply to this message and include an Approved: header with the list > >password in it, the message will be approved for posting to the list. The > >Approved: header can also appear in the first line of the body of the > >reply." > > > >What does "header" mean and where on a reply email does it exist? Does > >"header" mean the Subject line? > > > >Does this mean one of the following?: > >1) Clear out the Subject line of the email and place "Approved:{list > >password}" > > No. > > >2) Reply with the Subject line intact and place "Approved:{list password}" > >as the first line of the reply message. > > Yes > > >3) Something else... > > If your MUA allows it, you can actually add the Approved: <password> > line in the headers of the reply as a separate header, not in the > Subject:. > > >I tried option 1 and 2 and it did not work. Should there be a space between > >the colon and {list password}? > > > 2) should work. A space is conventional, but not required. The password > must be the list admin password or the list moderator password. The > site password is explicitly not accepted to discourage sending it in > plain text e-mail. > > Note also, that this moderation message is a multipart/mixed message > and the part that says "If you reply to this message, keeping the > Subject: header intact ..." is it's own message/rfc822 part and it's > that message part you must reply to with the Approved: <password> > line, not the "outer" message. > > I.e. the reply must be to the <listname>-request address, not the > <listname>-owner address, and the subject must be the "confirm > long-string-of-hex-digits" subject, not the "<listname> post from > <poster> requires approval" subject. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Using mailman output in web page documentation
by Adrian Pepper 19 Dec '15

19 Dec '15

I found it convenient to use mechanical dumps of mailman pages in attempting to create some moderator documentation, intended primarily for local use at the university where I work. Such dumped pages do not contain any formal copyright/left statement beyond alt="GNU's NOT Unix" 1. Is there a suitable comment one could/should (should not?) add to attribute the source of such excerpts to GNU (GFDL?). I use HTML dumps rather than screenshots so that I can modify them to create a mockup of a page which refers to a particular mailing list by name, and actually links variously to the real mailman server links, or further mockups as seems appropriate (to me). In addition, form items such as radio buttons will tend to appear in the manner the particular browser will display them on the real page. Adrian Pepper P.S. That's enough to start. Further analysis and tangential questions "2. and 3." exist already, perhaps in response to followups.

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Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish
by Eva Isaksson 14 Dec '15

14 Dec '15

Hi, I have a charset encoding problem that I'm unable to solve. I've been reading FAQs and list archives with little success. Our lists are in Finnish. The setup: our mailman installation uses its own translation file that is different from the Finnish translation that comes with the release. Because of that, mailman is on hold, and gets upgraded manually so that we can msfmt our own mailman.po. We have been running 2.15, on Debian, but because of the DMARC situation it's time to upgrade to 2.18.. Our upgrades have been rather routine so far, but this time we ran into problems. Suddenly, the character encoding was producing quite unreadable interfaces. Believing that the translation file was now supposed to be in utf-8 instead of iso-8859-1 I tried to re-encode all relevant files and change the mm_cfg.py values accordingly. This did not help at all. I've tried to check whether there have been any changes to mailman that could explain this, but no luck. - Eva Isaksson

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Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)
by Hal 14 Dec '15

14 Dec '15

Today I received 18 unsubscribe notification mesages, each one telling me that "name(a)addr.ess has been removed from my_list_name". They all appear to have been sent simultaneously, and since I (the list adminisistrator) haven't performed the unsubscribe request myself I suspect either some sort of automated request by the Mailman software or someone hacking into the system. I've had this happen to me once before, several months ago. The only thing I can think of apart from someone hacking into the list-server is that Mailman automatically removes members who have non-working addresses after a certain amount of list postings. Could this be it, or am I right to be worried and should contact the server owner to ask if an intrusion has shown up on the logs? Logging into the Mailman admin page for my list tells me I'm using Mailman 2.1.12. Hal

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accept_these_nonmembers from address encoding problem
by Kapetanakis Giannis 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

Hi, I have a problem in accept_these_nonmembers option. The system is not recognizing sender's address cause it contains an iso-8859-7 encoded name inside From: header. As a result it does not much user's email which is included in accept_these_nonmembers. The From: header is like this: From: =?iso-8859-7?B?1C7FLskuIMrRx9TH0ywg0NHPxcTRz9MgxS4gyuHw5fTh7dzq5/I=?=<user(a)example.com> The system sees only a sender as ?.?.? instead of user(a)example.com Can I force the use of envelope address instead of from address? I've tried setting SENDER_HEADERS = (None,) SENDER_HEADERS = ('from',) without any luck. Any other option to try? System is Centos 5 with mailman-2.1.9 Thanks in advance, Giannis

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What's the /var/spool/mailman/virgin for?
by Tony Bibbs 11 Dec '15

11 Dec '15

I've got an instance of mailman where the contents of /var/spool/mailman/virgin holds 1.4G of data. I'm just curious what this directory is for to determine what is putting the data there and what's responsible for sending it along. The same directory is empty for most other mailman instances I have access to. Thanks in advance, --Tony

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Re: [Mailman-Users] View a user's subscription options
by Adrian Pepper 10 Dec '15

10 Dec '15

I see https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/user_options lists subscribed topics. Which is something of interest. But it must be run from the server. I ended up taking my own approach, building on little things I'd written before, to do an assessment of topic subscriptions from a web client machine. Does the following mimic some standard utility somewhere? # # tag-filter # From HTML input, output lines of only text or a single tags. # I.e. it will produce... (e.g. from output of curl -s -b cookiefile https://mailman/mailman/options/test-aharper-subset/aharper--at--dt.uwaterl… ) <html> <head> <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href="/icons/mm-icon.png"> <title> aharper at dt.uwaterloo.ca membership configuration for test-aharper-subset </title> </head> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <TABLE WIDTH="100%" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="5"> <TR> <TD WIDTH="100%" BGCOLOR="#99CCFF"> test-aharper-subset mailing list membership configuration for aharper at dt.uwaterloo.ca [...] <tr> <td colspan="2"> [...] That can simplify rudimentary parsing. After tag-filter, I can use my "form-filter", which from output such as the above can produce... aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.disablemail="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.disablemail="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.deliver-globally="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.digest="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.digest="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.mime="0"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.mime="1"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.mime-globally="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.dontreceive="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.dontreceive="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.ackposts="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.ackposts="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.remind="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.remind="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.remind-globally="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.conceal="0"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.conceal="1"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Newsletter%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Test+Topic+2%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Any+Topic%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="This+Topic+Should+Match+Nothing%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="This+Topic+Should+Match+Everything%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+1%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+2%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+3%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+4%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+5%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+6%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="NothingPythonOrg%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.usertopic="NothingMine%2C"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.rcvtopic="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.rcvtopic="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.nodupes="0"(CHECKED) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.nodupes="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.nodupes-globally="1"(notchecked) aharper(a)dt.uwaterloo.ca.options-submit="Submit My Changes" (Both tag-filter and form-filter may make simplifying assumptions based on what has and has never been seen as mailman HTML, e.g. on what to use as "form name"). After turning a simple pipeline like that into "mailman-get-member-options" and writing something to do: get-member-list $listname | \ xargs -n 1 mailman-get-member-options $listname I added that to what I run in my standard list dumps. Allowing me to assess... (relevant output is distributed into */members.optioned) cs-xh-admin% grep topic= */*optioned | sed 's/^[^:]*:.*[.]//' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 1063 rcvtopic="1"(notchecked) 1063 rcvtopic="0"(CHECKED) 104 usertopic="Topic+Which+Gets+No+Posts"(notchecked) 102 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="This+Topic+Should+Match+Nothing%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="This+Topic+Should+Match+Everything%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Test+Topic+2%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="SCS+Newsletter%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="NothingPythonOrg%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="NothingMine%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+6%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+5%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+4%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+3%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+2%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters+1%2C"(notchecked) 4 usertopic="Any+Topic%2C"(notchecked) 2 usertopic="Farmers+Institute+Newsletters"(CHECKED) 1 rcvtopic="1"(CHECKED) 1 rcvtopic="0"(notchecked) cs-xh-admin% (Not a lot of interest is selecting based on topic (yet)). (The only use so far is my own testing). Adrian. On 12/03/2015 1:57 PM -0800 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 12/03/2015 01:09 PM, Adrian Pepper wrote: > > > > I wrote something (really ugly[*], incrementally developed over a period [...] > > > You might be interested in looking at > <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/mailman-subscribers.py> which is > another web admin membership screenscraper which when run with the --csv > option produces output like > > > > "Full name","email address","mod","hide","nomail","ack","not metoo","nodupes","digest","plain" > > "Mark Sapiro","mark(a)msapiro.net","off","off","off","off","off","on","off","off" > > "Mark","another@address","off","off","[A]","off","off","on","off","off" > > "Mark","yet@another","off","off","[A]","off","on","on","off","off" > > > It uses Python's cookielib to deal with cookies and only requires the > hostname, listname and admin password for input. > > -- > Mark Sapiro >

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feature request
by Steven Jones 09 Dec '15

09 Dec '15

"Should administrator get notices of subscribes and unsubscribes? " Would it be possible to split these as our list admins would like to see unsubscribes but not subscribes. <http://lists.vuw.ac.nz/mailman/admin/all_active_students/?VARHELP=general/a…> <http://lists.vuw.ac.nz/mailman/admin/all_active_students/?VARHELP=general/a…> regards Steven

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List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 05 Dec '15

05 Dec '15

Hello, I'm assisting a small non-profit organization with their informational news listserv which is running on Mailman version 2.1.20. The issue is that list posts sent to AOL subscriber addresses are now bouncing as undeliverable with the bounce code: "521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message." This issue just began several days ago and 200+ subscribers with AOL email addresses are now identified as bouncing in Mailman admin. I understand last year AOL (and Yahoo) made changes to their email systems which might contribute to this issue. However it didn't seem to impact our list subscribers with AOL email addresses until just now. The bounce email message for each subscriber appears as: ---- A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: EmailAccountHere(a)aol.com host mailin-03.mx.aol.com [64.12.91.196] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 521 5.2.1 : AOL will not accept delivery of this message. ---- Unfortunately the list server runs on a host machine maintained by another non-profit, which in turn contacts with a small local hosting provider. And we don't have access to changing any list server configuration parameters, beyond what is available in the list owner admin. And unfortunately the hosting provider will not make any changes to the server for specific lists. We are just grateful the free listserv service and that they keep the version of Mailman up-to-date. And we are unable to setup a white list or feedback loop (FBL) with AOL as we don't have access to the postmaster or abuse email accounts for the list server domain. We have sent an email to http://postmaster.info.aol.com/SupportRequest.php to request unblocking out list email address and/or the list server IP (assuming one or the other is actually "blocked", we have no idea at this point), but have yet to receive a response from AOL. The error codes page at https://postmaster.info.aol.com/error-codes says this about the bounce error noted above: AOL will not accept delivery of this message This is a permanent bounce due to: * RFC2822 From domain does not match the rDNS of sending server. * RFC 2822 FROM address does not have an A record and is not a valid domain. * IP has a poor reputation and mail is sent to multiple recipients. * There are multiple From address in the mail headers and the IP reputation is poor. Before I dive into the details above and the info within the document at https://postmaster.info.aol.com/tech-requirements, I'm hoping to hear some potential simple solutions that may be applied to our particular solution. I can post the content of the list email a headers, but I wish to avoid posting the info in a public forum, Thank you for any advice.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

The Mailman version is in both the subject line and the OP ;-) I'll investigate those DEMARC settings. Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

RE: "Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)" Never mind on that. Just let the admin form idle too long. So just changed to 'Munge' and unchecked the 'No Mail' box for several AOL subscribers which were bouncing. Will see if this has any impact.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

FYI, I'm just using a Yahoo email account (via web interface) to post to the Mailman-users list. I don't use this account for much anything else. All posts to the list in question are moderated and almost all are sent from a Mozilla Thunderbird email client. And almost all subscribers (including AOL subscribers) are set for digest mode. In the list mail the from line always shows the listname(a)subdomain.domain1.org (not an individual email address or freemail domain) How do I find these DMARC workarounds which you speak? -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 12/4/15, John wrote: I see that you have a yahoo.com address. If there's a yahoo.com address on the From: line of the list mail, AOL and Yahoo's well documented abuse of DMARC will cause the failure you're seeing. If you're running a recent version of Mailman, there are some DMARC workarounds you can use. Other than that, I'd find a different address to mail from, not at Yahoo, not at AOL, and preferably not at Gmail.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

Somehow a sentence above was cut off, Should be: I've checked and every list subscriber has the 'not metoo' and 'dupe' boxes checked.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

I just attempted to change "from_is_list" from "No" to "Munge From" but observed the following error in Mailman admin "Error: The form lifetime has expired. (request forgery check)" Reading VARHELP=general/from_is_list it appears that changing to "Munge From" or "Wrap Message" would not provide any benefit when sending list digests..

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Re: [Mailman-Users] List posts sent to AOL list subscribers bounce as undeliverable (v. 2.1.20)
by Woody Mon 04 Dec '15

04 Dec '15

Thank you for everyone's ideas and recommends. I've checked and every list subscriber has the As Mark suggested trying, I'll change "from_is_list" to "Munge From" to see if that has any effect. And if not will try "Wrap Message". Note that almost all list subscribers are set to receive Digests, so hoping this doesn't mess with the format of the digests any (the list is text only, no html or attachments).. As Mark related, I suspect the issue is DNS related, and AOL is just finally cracking down on mail sent from this particular list server. A free web based DNS checker reports the following for the listserver domain: 1. FAIL - SOA record check. "No nameservers provided an SOA record for the zone". 2. FAIL - MX records check. "No MX records exist within the zone. This is legal, but if you want to receive E-mail on this domain, you should have MX record(s)." 3. PTR record for the domain "Error: Invalid IP address" I'm not privy to the details but I suspect the list server runs within a virtual host environment. >From the header of a list digest email I received yesterday ----- Return-Path: Listname-bounces(a)lsubdomain.domain1.org X-RC-FROM: <Listname(a)lsubdomain.domain1.org> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:obfuscated-port# helo=hostname.domain2.org) by hostname.domain2.org with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <Listname(a)lsubdomain.domain1.org>) id obfuscated date & timestamp X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hostname.domain2.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - domain3.org X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - subdomain.domain1.org From: Listname-request(a)subdomain.domain1.org Subject: Listname Digest, Vol ##, Issue ### To: Listname(a)subdomain.domain1.org Reply-To: Listname(a)subdomain.domain1.org ------- It appears the listserver domain (domain1) runs on the domain2.org host and which is responsible for sending mail for domain1. Whereas the 'abuse' domain (domain3) is the domain name of the parent organization which hosts domain2, which the domain1 listserver runs upon. I'm considering sending a direct email to all the list subscribers with AOL addresses, recommending they either contact AOL to request a whitelist solution or to send us an alternative (freemail) email address which we'll change their list subscription to. Besides the list provider repairing their DNS configuration, is the above a recommended solution? If I was a network administrator I likely could phrase all this in better terms. ;-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] View a user's subscription options
by Adrian Pepper 03 Dec '15

03 Dec '15

On 12/01/2015 17:23:58 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/01/2015 08:51 AM, Gretchen R Beck wrote: > > Is there a command line script that can be used to view an individual user's subscription options for a specific list? > > > I'm not aware of one, but it is fairly simple to do. I'm willing to add > it to the collection at <https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/>, but what do > you want in the way of output. Presumably the input would be something like > > get_user_options listname user(a)example.com > > but what kind of output are you looking for? What fields and in what format? > I wrote something (really ugly[*], incrementally developed over a period of weeks) that produced, based on the main "membership" page(s) that produced via web access, e.g. apepper(a)pytone.org smHxanudP "Adrian Pepper" apepper(a)pyttwo.org smHxAnuDP "Adrian Pepper again" empty(a)pytone.org smHxanudP "Empty Recipient List" mshapiro(a)pytone.org smHxanudP "Mark Shapiro" onafees(a)pytthree.org smHXanudP "Oscar Nafees" those letter options correspond to reading across on https://SERVER/mailman/admin/LISTNAME/members sort of like "ls gone a little crazy". s/S - subscribe/unsubscribe (not actually implemented, for "safety") (though I did once in a test version when it would be useful) m/M - moderation off/ON h/H - hidden off/ON x/X - nomail off/ON (reason lost) a/A - ack off/ON n/N - not metoo off/ON u/U - nodUpes off/ON (ahem!) d/D - digest off/ON p/P - plaintext off/ON (applies to digest only) Needs a cookie file for access. Vulnerable to formatting changes in the web page output, of course. I actually have something to take that output as input and "make it so". But with at least one bug. (Omitted option letters are turned off, not left unchanged). But my main goal was to monitor changes, especially "nomail", and the email address which was supposed to conform to a standard. Though the "make it so" script is actually used for doing remote (web) subscriptions, setting desired options and a standard name field. And much later I realized that that output includes only some of the options available to the user on the user options page. https://SERVER/mailman/options/LISTNAME I guess you're talking about running the command on the server? I don't know if you want to contemplate something like my "ls gone a little crazy", or not. Adrian. [*] Lots of analysis done in csh in the top-level csh script

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