Mailman 3 May 2015 - Mailman-Users

List not archiving, not sending mail, mischief log shows 'Hostile listname: <list>"
by Bill Christensen May 20, 2015

May 20, 2015

Mark, Adding the line SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET = 'Some string unique to your site" in mm_cfg.py definitely made a huge difference to the spam registration problem I was having. Looks like I may not need to migrate the list to a new address after all. One more problem to solve. I'm using Gmail for all our email addresses, and pulling the mail into Mailman using Fetchmail. It's been working fine for years. One of my more important lists recently started getting this in the Fetchmail console: post script, list not found: <listname> fetchmail: Error writing to MDA: Broken pipe and the Mailman error log says: <date> gate_news(12061): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/local/var/mailman/locks/gate_news.lock.<site FQDN>.12061.0' <date> post(12068): post script, list not found: <listname> Mailman mischief log says: Hostile listname: <listname> In the smtp-failure log I'm seeing Message size exceeds fixed limit In General Options => Maximum length in kilobytes (KB) of a message body. Use 0 for no limit. I have '0'. I've run the check permissions script ( with -f), it changes nothing. It appears that there are 5 messages waiting for delivery, though I don't see them in any of the queues. This appears to have started around the time that I upgraded from Mailman 2.1.17 (or so) to 2.1.20 That list is also not archiving properly, so it clearly has problems All the other lists on the server are working fine as far as I can tell. Any ideas as to what's wrong?

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Could Mailman cope with extra Mime sections intended for Apple Watches?
by Peter Shute May 18, 2015

May 18, 2015

This isn't something that's happening right now, and I doubt it will, but you never know. Apple is playing with mail formats intended to display as a message summary on an Apple Watch, but show the full message on a larger device. Apparently it's a legal format, but lots of mail clients are getting it wrong, and I'm wondering what Mailman would do with a message like that. I don't fully understand the problem, but it seems that reply notifications sent to people participating in discussions in the "Apple Support Comunities" (discussions.apple.com)have recently changed format. Previously they had an html part and a plain text part. Now they have an additional second html part containing the message summary. Mail clients are supposed to go through the Mime sections and select the most suitable one to display. It appears that most are selecting the html summary and not looking any further, so people don't see the full message. It appears that Exchange is even removing the other bits. It hasn't been suggested that Apple will try to do the same thing with user generated email, but who knows? If they do, will Mailman pass all three Mime sections through? It's being discussed here, and someone has posted a sample of the format: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7039218?start=15&tstart=0 Peter Shute

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Mail delivered locally but not to remote domains
by Dean Collins May 18, 2015

May 18, 2015

Sorry for not changing the subject last time. This is a server using the Plesk 12 control panel. The answer was: "Ensure that 'localhost' IP addresses is white listed in Plesk. Go to Tools & Settings > Mail Server Settings > White list To verity it open Tools & Settings > Mail Settings > White List and check whether it contain the following addresses: '::1/128' and '127.0.0.1'." Their knowledgebase article is at http://kb.odin.com/en/123649. Thank you! Dean -----Original Message----- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+dean.collins=insightplanners.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sapiro Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:59 PM To: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing from 2.1.12-18.el6 to 2.1.15-17.el7 On 05/15/2015 12:28 PM, Dean Collins wrote: > > Subscribers include me(a)mydomain.com (the same domain the list is on) > and various addresses from other domains/servers (a couple of servers > I run, plus Gmail and AT&T.) > > Mail sent to mylist(a)mydomain.com from any subscriber gets archived -- > and distributed to me(a)mydomain.com. But none of the other subscribers > receive the list mail. In order to be sure about anything, I'd need to see some logs like Mailman's smtp-failure log and the MTA logs, except I don't know anything about qmail. However, based on past experience I can say the following. 1) Mailman is delivering to the local MTA (qmail) and the mail is being delivered to local addresses but not being sent to remote domains. 2) Other locally generated mail is being sent to remote domains. When this happens it is probably an IPv4 vs. IPv6 issue. Here's one scenario. It may not be exactly this in your case, but you should be able to translate. The MTA has an idea of what addresses constitute the local network and will relay mail from those addresses to the outside. This includes say the IPv4 local host, something like 127.0.0.1, but not the IPv6 local host ::1. Mailman, by default, delivers to 'localhost'. 'localhost' in turn is defined as the IPv6 ::1 address. Thus Mailman's mail comes to the MTA from ::1 which is not in the MTA's notion of the local network, so the MTA refuses to relay the mail. This can be fixed in multiple ways. You can add the IPv6 local host to the MTA's local network. You can change /etc/hosts to associate 127.0.0.1 rather than ::1 with 'localhost'. You can set SMTPHOST in mm_cfg.py to something that will work. E.g., SMTPHOST = '127.0.0.1' Note that since I haven't seen your logs, the above scenario may be off. Perhaps it would be that Mailman is sending via the IPv4 loopback and qmail wants IPv6, but the idea is the same. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dean.collins%40insight planners.com

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Importing from 2.1.12-18.el6 to 2.1.15-17.el7
by Dean Collins May 15, 2015

May 15, 2015

Hello, everyone. Will "config_list -I" work to import settings from version 2.1.12-18 to 2.1.15-17? Thanks! Dean

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Where are the wrong email adresses ?
by Regis May 15, 2015

May 15, 2015

Hello everybody, I have just sent my first mailing with mailman. I kwow that a lot of email adresses are wrong but, in the admin panel, i can't see them neither in the Membership Management list nor in the Bounce Processing... Please could you tell me where can i see and manage these wrong email adresses ? Thanks a lot !

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Trying to get mail working
by Steve Matzura May 14, 2015

May 14, 2015

I have charge of a very mixed system--current OS (Fedora 20--OK 21's out but I just haven't upgraded yet), current (or nearly so) Mailman (2.1.18-1), Postfix 2.10 with a configuration file sfrom something a lot older which I've run through the upgrade-configuration procedure, and old Dovecot (1.0.15). Is there anything I can do to test each of these components individually, then add a second component and test the three pairs, then all three together? I am nobody's definitioin of an expert in any of these three components, so am having a lot of trouble making them work together, so I thought maybe there might be some test procedure that might straighten me out. Thanks in advance.

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Issue since 2.1.13-5 to 2.1.13-6 update
by renaud courvoisier May 13, 2015

May 13, 2015

Hi, since I've updated from 2.1.13-5 to 2.1.13-6 the language option keep chinese (taiwan) event if I uncheck it. That's really annoying because the listing of all my lists is in chinese, even if the prefered language is french which is ok in any other part of mailman. How can I change this ? By the way, I'm searching where to set up html template capabilities for the mails generated by mailman (and because the system in based on Squeeze I can't change my version of mailman for the moment). I saw the different things in this list and in mailman docs, I know that I've to put the fingers in python, but where ? Thanks for your solutions. -- *Renaud Courvoisier* *École Supérieure d'Art d'Aix-en-Provence* rue Émile Tavan - 13100 Aix-en-Provence www.ecole-art-aix.fr <http://www.ecole-art-aix.fr/> / www.esaaix.fr <3D%22http://www.esaaix.fr/%22>

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Mailman 3
by Eric Lamer May 13, 2015

May 13, 2015

Hi, Some questions about Mailman 3.0 1- Is it stable enough to use in production? 2- Can you copy lists and archives from Mailman 2.x to Mailman 3.0? Thanks. EricLamer CEO Phoenix Secure Inc. 514-914-5599 514-800-2556 eric(a)phoenixsecure.com

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Integrate Mailman from PHP
by Selva Gaja May 12, 2015

May 12, 2015

Hi All, I am a PHP(Server Side Script Language) Developer. I want to integrate Mailman from PHP. Is there any API to get Mailman List? How to connect Mailman from PHP? Thanks in Advance. -- Thanks and Regards, Selva Gajendran.S

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Problem with Postfix
by Eric Lamer May 12, 2015

May 12, 2015

Hi, When I am sending mail to my mailman server I get this error: Remote Server returned '< #5.3.0 x-unix; Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "nobody". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mailman", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=nobody'.>' Any idea how to fix it? Thanks. [cid:45762505-9551-43f5-9158-58708DA84162.jpg] [cid:logo-new.jpg] Eric Lamer CEO Phoenix Secure Inc. [cid:phone.png] 514-914-5599 [cid:printer_and_fax.png] 514-800-2556 [cid:mail_32.png] eric(a)phoenixsecure.com [cid:button-facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/Phoenixsecure> [cid:button-linkedin.png] <http://www.linkedin.com/in/phoenixsecure> [cid:button-twitter.png] <https://twitter.com/phoenixsecure> [cid:button-youtube.png] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXEazb0mxn78vjhyLsNWSw> [cid:button-google.png] <https://plus.google.com/u/0/106257414321776886465/about> [cid:C44700B8-0227-4717-A5D5-7935D46B0F9D.jpg]

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