Mailman 3 September 2015 - Mailman-Users

what's the easiest way to export/import a large list?
by Ricardo Kleemann Sept. 21, 2015

Sept. 21, 2015

I have a list with around 50k users and I wanted to move from one server to another. Does copying the the specific list's directory (e.g. under /var/lib/mailman/lists) from one server to another work? Or, alternatively, does config_list output sufficient information of all the settings and characteristics such that I can then input on the other server? thanks Ricardo

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How to get the senders email address in the custom footer?
by Arlen Raasch Sept. 20, 2015

Sept. 20, 2015

I have recently acquired the responsibility of maintaining a small listserver with about 1000 users. We are using version 2.1.16 of Mailman. The emails that currently are sent out via the listserv server have headers that include the original sender's email address as the "From:" address. Yahoo's and Aol's DMARC policy causes these to bounce as our server is not one they recognize. I have seen many posts regarding this problem, but no actual solutions that told me what I should do. This is not my area of expertise, just something that dropped in my lap. A strategy that makes some sense to me is to take ownership of the emails by identifying the listserv as the From and Reply-To addresses, but including a custom footer in the email that exposes the actual sender's email address. This should avoid Yahoo and Aol rejecting the email due to DMARC, as Yahoo and Aol will not be asked for their opinion as to what should or should not be done with this email. I set the annonomous_list setting to yes under general options, and sent a test email. The email went out fine, but nothing in the default email footer allowed others to know who actually sent the email out. I attempted to change the default non-digest footer to include the sender's address, but did not succeed. It appears that this info is regarding the recipient,not the sender's info. I.E. user xxx(a)mydomain.com sends to yyy(a)listserver.com, zzz(a)hisdomain.com is also a member of the listserv and receives an email, but the footer to the email does not show xxx@mydomain, just info about zzz(a)hisdomain.com. I tried the user_address, user_delivered_to, and user_name variables but none contained info regarding the sender. So, the question is how to get the sender's email address in the footer. Thanks in advance, -Arlen Raasch

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Increasing volume of distributed subscription attacks (was Blocking or holding subscribe requests when email address contains "+")
by Robert Sparks Sept. 18, 2015

Sept. 18, 2015

David Gibbs wrote: > I've been getting a lot of subscribe requests from bogus email addresses that look like: adfslij+32987234 at gmail.com. You're not alone. The subscriptions have also moved on to include addresses at SMS gateways after we added filters similar to what the thread suggested. In case others are also dealing with this at volume, some background on what the IETF mailman admin is doing: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-development/p4iI5kxO-J1LZR5CQLe… and https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-development/P9mDSeRrvgUAD_tFzYq… If anyone has a mitigation strategy that's working well, please let me know. RjS

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Is there a way to create multiple lists at once via mailman script?
by Montanez, Victor Sept. 17, 2015

Sept. 17, 2015

Hello, I am wondering if there is a way to have several mailman lists created at once via command line. I am talking about 100 lists or so. Otherwise creating them through the GUI would take forever. Maybe creating a file with list name, password,etc and passing that file to the create binary? Anyone have any experience with that? Thanks in advance Victor Montañez

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject
by Mark Sapiro Sept. 16, 2015

Sept. 16, 2015

On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Camille Ollié wrote: > > i don't have this issue with Sympa on postfix and ezmlm on Qmail on > other mailing lists. > > Here is an example : [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: > Re: Re: Re: IMP tice > > Even with thunderbird i have the issue. (Including list in reply) Well, judging by the subject in your reply to me, your MUA does the right thing, with Subjects that begin with Re: But there are other issues here. The example above is from a list at a site which has configured OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No So that Mailman puts the subject_prefix ([Bar]) at the beginning of the Subject: so a list post will be distributed with a Subject: like Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject rather than Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Multiple "Re:" in subject With this subject, a replying MUA probably creates the subject like Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Multiple "Re:" in subject but Mailman has logic in the subject prefixing code to remove redundant Re:, Aw:, Sv: and Vs: from the beginning of the subject in this case so Subject: headers with multiple Re: such as your example should not be occurring, however there appears a bug in that code. It will remove all the redundant Re:s from Subject: Re: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice but not from Subject: [Bar] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMP tice I will fix it. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Admin Approval Emails Not Sent
by DT Sept. 16, 2015

Sept. 16, 2015

Mailman version 2.1.16 Installed via apt-get Server OS is Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS MTA is postfix version 2.11.0 When a user subscribes to the email list, an approval email is not being sent to the admins/moderators. The variables admin_immed_notify and admin_notify_mchanges are set to yes. The subscribe requests are getting picked up during the daily cron job and an email is then sent at 8:00 AM. Test emails to -owner work internally from postfix and when sent externally from gmail. Here's a link to all the log file snippets from the time of the subscribe request: https://gist.github.com/dmofot/c367151ba262f476c2c6 Any ideas where to start troubleshooting this issue? DT

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Ban list - correct regular expression?
by Clare Redstone Sept. 16, 2015

Sept. 16, 2015

I get lots of spam held for moderation from email addresses that begin Hayley@ . I go to the moderation queue, discard each email address and tick to ban that address from every subscribing. And to discard anything coming from that address automatically. It would save me a lot of time if I can have this happen automatically. But am not entirely sure how. I've tried adding ^hayley to the list of addresses banned from membership (subscription rules). And to the List of non-member addresses whose postings will be automatically discarded (sender filters.) Is that the right expression? And are those the right places to add it? I didn't put them in the reject messages list as I thought that might send an automatic message back saying the message had been rejected. Which would be evidence ours is a real address and maybe encourage even more spam. Have I set this up correctly? Any other suggestions? Thanks. (And if you're called Hayley and want to join the list - um - tough?!) Clare

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has anyone built a package (or bundle) for Mailman 3 on Ubuntu?
by Ricardo Kleemann Sept. 15, 2015

Sept. 15, 2015

I wanted to give it a try. I understand it requires multiple packages to get it working, and wondering if there's already anywhere I can point to to install via apt-get. thanks Ricardo

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Is there a preferred owner and group of the MM2 directory "/usr/local/mailman?"
by Tom Browder Sept. 15, 2015

Sept. 15, 2015

The installation instructions are a little confusing, but I take away from them the best (almost default) choice for owner:group for the "/usr/local/mailman" ($prefix) directory is 'mailman'. Any other opinions or recommendations? Thanks. Best regards, -Tom

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Blocking or holding subscribe requests when email address contains "+"
by Gibbs, David Sept. 15, 2015

Sept. 15, 2015

Folks: I'm looking for a way to block, or preferably hold for approval, subscribe requests where the email address contains a plus sign. I've been getting a lot of subscribe requests from bogus email addresses that look like: adfslij+32987234(a)gmail.com. Any suggestions? Thanks! david -- IBM i on Power Systems: For when you can't afford to be out of business! I'm riding 100 miles (a full century) in the American Diabetes Association's Tour de Cure to raise money for diabetes research, education, advocacy, and awareness. You can make a tax deductible donation to my ride by visiting http://gmanesig.diabetessucks.net. My goal is $6000 but any amount is appreciated. See where I get my donations from ... visit http://gmanesig.diabetessucks.net/map for an interactive map (it's a geeky thing).

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