Mailman 3 January 2016 - Mailman-Users

Mailman with Gmail.
by Paul Stuffins Jan. 17, 2016

Jan. 17, 2016

Hi Everybody, We use Google Apps as our email platform but would like to install and run our own mailing list software as Google's offering does not really suit us. Can we install mailman on a VPS, and use it with Google Apps? I have tried googling and not got a definitive answer, hence emailing the mailing list. Many Thanks Paul

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IOError reading list extension: [Errno 20] Not a directory
by Web Analysts Jan. 16, 2016

Jan. 16, 2016

My mail server is delivering a post to mailman but it is not being distributed. The mailman error log shows IOError reading list extension: [Errno 20] Not a directory: '/usr/lib/mailman/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox/extend.py' I have checked perms, the db and restarted mailman, all to no avail. Help please. Regards, _ Christian Stalberg Web Analysts http://web-analysts.net <http://web-analysts.net/> Web_Analysts_signature This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Encoding problem with 2.15 to 2.18 upgrade with Finnish
by Eva Isaksson Jan. 16, 2016

Jan. 16, 2016

I tried to approach this problem by getting the source package from the debian repository. We are still running wheezy, so we need to stick to 2.1.18 for now. When I built the package, the resulting mailman.mo file for Finnish ends up utf-8 encoded (which I deduced by converting it back to a .po file by msgunfmt. The encoding seems to happen in debian/patches/91_utf8.patch which does have a list of correct encodings, but this is what seems to happen: (not only to Finnish, but to all listed languages): msgconv -t utf-8 fi/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po | tee fi/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po.utf-8 | msgfmt -o fi/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.mo - Also: http://sources.debian.net/patches/patch/mailman/1:2.1.18-2/91_utf8.patch/ <https://mail.google.com/> If this means that debian is forcing everything to utf-8, what should I do, if every package comes with this forced utf-8 encoding? Here is the trackback we got in October: Oct 28 10:04:28 2015 (22144) Uncaught runner exception: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 11: invalid continuation byt e Oct 28 10:04:28 2015 (22144) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 239, in process i18ndesc = uheader(mlist, mlist.description, 'List-Id', maxlinelen=998) File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py", line 65, in uheader return Header(s, charset, maxlinelen, header_name, continuation_ws) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/email/header.py", line 183, in __init__ self.append(s, charset, errors) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/email/header.py", line 267, in append ustr = unicode(s, incodec, errors) UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in position 11: invalid continuation byte - Eva Isaksson 2016-01-05 21:29 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net>: > On 01/05/2016 10:42 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 01/05/2016 04:43 AM, Eva Isaksson wrote: > >> > >> This is what we see after installing the .deb: > >> > >> ```Uncaught runner exception: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xe4 in > >> position 11: invalid continuation byte``` > > > > > > Please post the entire traceback from Mailman's error log. > > > > Please keep this thread on the list. > > > Although I can't say for sure without seeing the traceback, this may be > similar to the situation described at > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1462755>. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan >

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permission issue
by Matt Newville Jan. 15, 2016

Jan. 15, 2016

Hi, Sorry if this is actually a FAQ entry -- I looked at many FAQs and on-line resources and haven't found a working solution yet. I've been using Mailman for many years, very appreciative of the work. I am trying to move some lists to a machine running Fedora 22, with mailman 2.1.20 and apache 2.4.17, using the fedora-supplied packages. Mailman is installed to /usr/lib/mailman, with list data in /var/lib/mailman, and there is a mailman user and group (uid = gid = 41). I migrated several lists, wiped and successfully re-made their Archives, and created a fresh list for testing called test1. I followed the migration directions as best as possible, run check_perms -f, and the files in /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin are set g+s. The files in /var/lib/mailman/lists/test1 have group=mailman. I can subscribe and manage all the groups through the web interface, and mail sent to to 'test1' group works, but the archives are not created. /var/log/mailman/error shows Jan 14 11:35:01 2016 (9055) Archive file access failure: /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox/test1.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox/test1.mbox' Jan 14 11:35:01 2016 (9055) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox/test1.mbox' Jan 14 11:35:01 2016 (9055) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 200, in ArchiveMail self.__archive_to_mbox(msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 169, in __archive_to_mbox mbox = self.__archive_file(afn) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 157, in __archive_file return Mailbox.Mailbox(open(afn, 'a+')) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/test1.mbox/test1.mbox' Jan 14 11:35:01 2016 (9055) SHUNTING: 1452792899.410995+4ddf5a7718ff13c171a78e27a2caaf5429312510 I get similar errors if I manually run mailman/bin/unshunt. Apache does load mod_suexec.so, but (as far as I can tell) it's not used anywhere. I've tried making the permissions on the files and directories /var/lib/mailman/ very liberal, but still see problems either with the mbox file or (from other, existing lists that have been migrated) with 'config.pck.tmp.SERVERNAME...', and the mail is not even sent. Any suggestions on what to try or how to better diagnose the problem? Is there a known issue with the fedora packages that suggest using a source build of Mailman or Apache? Thanks very much for any suggestions, --Matt Newville

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Reply-To-List Header
by Dennis Putnam Jan. 14, 2016

Jan. 14, 2016

On some mailman lists I receive messages in which Thunderbird displays a "Reply to List" button. However, on my own lists that does not happen. What header is TB relying on to get that and what setting do I need to change my mailman for that to happen? TIA.

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known_spammers issue
by Bryan Teague Jan. 14, 2016

Jan. 14, 2016

Hi, I have updated the KNOWN_SPAMMERS array in the mm_cfg.py and then bounced the Qrunner. I am using Mailman 2.1.15 with postfix. My known_spammer declaration is: KNOWN_SPAMMERS =[('from', 'hellocatboots.*’)] Is there something I am missing on blocking the subscription requests now? These are all coming in via email. Thanks, Bryan Bryan Teague | Senior Web Administrator | University Web Services | ITS | Maher Hall, Room 198 5998 Alcalá Park | San Diego, CA 92110-2492 | P: (619) 260-7842 | C: (619) 321-7288 bryant(a)sandiego.edu<mailto:bryant@sandiego.edu>

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THIS list is for mailman 3 or mailman 2 or BOTH?
by Karma Kolabor Jan. 14, 2016

Jan. 14, 2016

Hi, this list - is it for mailman 3 or mailman 2 or are you planning on using ONE mailing list for BOTH versions of mailman? I did not find any information about separated lists, so I assume that here both versions are discussed - what looks like the worst case scenario to me. If my apprehension is right, then I would like to suggest to maintain one mailing list for mailman 3 and one for mailman 2. Thanks for your attention, Karma

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mailman help
by mark Jan. 13, 2016

Jan. 13, 2016

Hi all, is there a way of setting some one subscription for a month then it be deleted after that time unless told not to mark.

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Daily Restarts Needed
by Greg Sims Jan. 12, 2016

Jan. 12, 2016

We are having problems with mailman needing to be restarted to complete sending email to our lists. The problem has been getting worse over time and is now almost a daily requirement. I spent some time debugging this morning and found some issues. I used top to look at the number of active processes that are owned by user mailman. I found 35 processes including 14 command "mailmanctl". This looks like it might be the source (at least one of them) to our problems. Mailman is currently delivering email to our users after a restart. I would like to clear this up without rebooting our server. Please give me some input on a plan to clean this up. Here is a start: - wait for the need for mailman to be low -- we send email three times per day to newsletters & and have no forums/blogs - service mailman stop - delete all processes running under mailman - ?? should I clear lock files or other actions ?? - service mailman start - verify the proper number of process are running -- ?? there should be eight processes ?? I would also like input on additional debug techniques to find the root cause of this issue. Thanks, Greg

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transport-mailman and virtual-mailman not updated with new list
by Eggert Ehmke Jan. 8, 2016

Jan. 8, 2016

Hello, I have added some new lists. The transport-mailman and virtual-mailman files in the data directory still only contain the old list. What must be done to update them? bin/genaliases does not do it. Eggert

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