Mailman-Users October 2016

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29 participants
32 discussions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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changing domains on Mailman implementation
by Keith Seyffarth 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Is there an efficient way to change the domain name that mailman is affiliated with? I have two mailing lists that were created for an organization before that organization had their own domain. At the time the organization was sure they did not want their own domain and would not be getting a domain. Since then, they have chosen to get a domain and set up a web site. I would like to move their mailing lists onto their domain. It looks like the process for this is: 1) get the list of subscribers 2) delete the mailing list from the one domain (losing the archives) 3) create the mailing list on the new domain 4) subscribe the list of subscribers This process doesn't seem too difficult, but I would prefer to keep the archives, if possible. Both domains are on the same server, running CentOS7 and PLESK 12.5, if that makes a difference. Thanks, Keith

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Mailman qrunner: [abrt] full crash report
by Dennis Putnam 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

I have been getting these crash reports occasionally. Does this look like a mailman problem or is mailman falling victim to some OS (Centos 7) or other issue? TIA. time: Thu 20 Oct 2016 06:43:20 AM EDT cmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s uid: 41 (mailman) abrt_version: 2.1.11 event_log: executable: /usr/bin/python2.7 global_pid: 3842 hostname: dap002 kernel: 3.10.0-327.36.2.el7.x86_64 last_occurrence: 1477879758 pid: 3842 pkg_arch: x86_64 pkg_epoch: 3 pkg_name: mailman pkg_release: 21.el7_1 pkg_version: 2.1.15 pwd: /usr/lib/mailman runlevel: N 3 username: mailman cgroup: :10:perf_event:/ :9:cpuset:/ :8:freezer:/ :7:blkio:/ :6:devices:/ :5:cpuacct,cpu:/ :4:memory:/ :3:hugetlb:/ :2:net_cls:/ :1:name=systemd:/system.slice/mailman.service core_backtrace: :{ "signal": 6 :, "executable": "/usr/bin/python2.7" :, "stacktrace": : [ { "crash_thread": true : , "frames": : [ { "address": 140714112447991 : , "build_id": "53c0918c85fa9cc08d2b57e76467631ab07554ae" : , "build_id_offset": 218615 : , "function_name": "raise" : , "file_name": "/lib64/libc.so.6" : } : , { "address": 140714112453864 : , "build_id": 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Reply Bodies as Attachments
by rex＠rexgoode.com 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

I'm having the same problem on all of my lists, which most people read on their Android or IOS devices. When I send something out, if anyone replies, it is delivered with my defined header and footer, but the body is an attachment which can't be read. It says, "No Application Available for This Content". I've looked through all of the settings and can't find anything related to it or that affects it. Rex Goode

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Moderation not working
by Wouter van Marle 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

Hi all, I have a few mails for my list awaiting moderation. When I try to moderate them (in my case, they have to be removed, this were all test mails not intended for posting) it just doesn't work. In the web interface, I open the list, go to "Tend to pending moderator requests", and set the messages to either "Reject" or "Discard", then click the "Submit All Data" button. A pop-up appears, security warning: "The information you have entered on this page will be sent over an insecure connection and could be read by a third party. Are you sure you want to send this information?" I click Continue, and get back the same page with all the to-be-moderated messages untouched. Nothing happens. Any ideas? Wouter.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman stopped archiving
by akgul＠bilkent.edu.tr 30 Oct '16

30 Oct '16

>On 10/27/2016 10:17 AM, Mustafa Akgul wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I have debain 7.11 , mailman 2.1.5-1 i386 >> I have a few lists. All stopped archiving. >> LISTNAME.mbox is not updateing >> I have run chech_perms -f as root. /usr/lib/mailman permissions are OK, and >> permissions of non-links ar OK. > > >What's in Mailman's error log. Are the messages shunted? > >Is ArchRunner running? (whats in Mailman's qrunner log?) > >What's in Mailman's qfiles/archive? qfiles/shunt? > >-- >Mark Sapiro <m...(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan there is nothing im Mailman error lohg. same ith qrunner. ArchRunning is not running. under qfiles there is nothing in all directories except an entry in 2014 in virgin directory? I do not run anything in cron regarding mailman. Any suggestions? Regards Mustafa Akgul

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Outlook blocking all email - "email harvesting"
by Jim Dory 28 Oct '16

28 Oct '16

I've got a plan with Hawkhost on a VPS server for our community, subscriber only, trade and announcements email list. Outlook has completely blocked us so I've recently gotten messages from mailman bounces that about 400 of our subscribers (all the hotmail, live, outlook, etc. users) have been disabled. I have signed up with the SNDS program and it reports that email is blocked because we are "email harvesting". (I am working with Hawkhost on a trouble ticket). I've tried to sign up with the JMRP program as well but when I click the link I get sent back to the SNDS page and cannot figure out how to get out of that loop to get actual user feedback complaint reports, if any. But that is a different issue. I am hoping you folks can shed some light on what to look for. Here is the report after sending info to https://support.live.com/eform.aspx?productKey=edfsmsbl3&ct=eformts&wa=wsig… : Dear James Dory We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. More information needed 198.252.110.38 There are indications that the above IP(s) are engaged in namespace mining. Outlook.com is blocking all email sent from this IP. Namespace mining is a method commonly used by malicious senders to generate lists of email addresses. This approach uses automation to sift through possible email names seeking to identify valid email addresses, e.g., Joe(a)domain.com, John(a)domain.com, and Josy(a)domain.com. You must correct the problem and you must stop the behavior described above. We recommend that you work with your email or network administrator to review the logs of your email servers. Check the sending log files and concentrate on logs that are sending to nonexistent @hotmail.com, @live.com, @msn.com, @outlook.com?with <http://outlook.com/?with> multiple tries and failures.

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