Mailman 3 December 2016 - Mailman-Users

Mailman3: HTTP-500, create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) ?
by Sim 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

Hello List, I was following the [mailman-bundler](https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler/) installation instructions. After starting Django for the first time (before changes to the Postfix configuration and without any pre-existing lists) I received an HTTP-500 from http://127.0.0.1:8000/mailman3. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.4/wsgiref/handlers.py", line 137, in run self.result = application(self.environ, self.start_response) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/database/transaction.py", line 57, in wrapper rtn = function(*args, **kws) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 65, in __call__ environ, start_response) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/falcon/api.py", line 180, in __call__ responder, params, resource = self._get_responder(req) File "/opt/mailman/mailman-bundler/venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py", line 135, in _get_responder method_map = create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) TypeError: create_http_method_map() takes 1 positional argument but 3 were given ERROR Internal Server Error: /mailman3/ To make it work I changed In file venv-3.4/lib/python3.4/site-packages/mailman/rest/wsgiapp.py: method_map = create_http_method_map(resource, None, None) into method_map = create_http_method_map(resource) Is this a bug or should I have created an initial list from the command line (similar to Mailman 2) before accessing this page? Simon

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Malfunction of our mailing list
by support＠aedeba.org 18 Dec '16

18 Dec '16

Hello everyone. The normal operation of our mailing list was such that when you post a message, you get yourself a copy of the message. Currently, when you post a message, you receive no copies. You do not know if the members got the message. Can you help me? Please Andre DZEUGANG

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logfiles description
by Dave Stevens 17 Dec '16

17 Dec '16

I see logfiles in /var/log/mailman/en but it isn't obvious (or not obvious enough anyway) what they all do. The wiki doesn't appear to describe them, can anyone refer me? D -- Reporter to Mahatma Ghandi after his tour of east London "What do you think of western civilization, Mr. Ghandi?" Ghandi - "I think it would be an excellent idea!"

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Does changing MX impact Mailman 2.1 processing?
by Florian Berger 17 Dec '16

17 Dec '16

Hi! My email + mailman provider had a server crash and is migrating all mail services to a different hardware. There is a temporary SMTP server up collecting incoming mail, but they are held and not propagated until the whole system runs again. Since that timeframe is unknown, I am thinking about pointing the MX record for the affected domain to an own cold-standby backup server. Question: will the Mailman 2.1 on the old system, once fed with the already accepted mails, correctly deliver these to the recipients *even* if the list domain's MX record points somewhere else? I.e. is Mailman 2.1 in any way dependent on DNS MX record resolving of its own domain *after* mail has already been accepted my an MTA? (I do not know the details of the Mailman installation, and my provider should be the first to be asked, and I did. I'd still value a shot-in-the-dark third opinion.) Thanks, Florian

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cgi wrappers not properly executing
by John Covici 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Hi. I am using mailman 2.1.23 on a gentoo system. I run in to the following problem: When I try to do anything on the web, I get permission denied error on /var/lib/mailman/logs/error . If I then make that file world read/write, I get permission denied error on config.pck of the list I am trying to access. Now, everything under /var/lib/mailman is owned by mailman.mailman and the cgi wrappers are all like the following: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman mailman 10512 Nov 16 12:45 /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/admin Check_perms says no problems. I am using apache 2.4.23 and here is what loads with mailman ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/"> Options +execcgi require all granted </Directory> Alias /pipermail/ "/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/" <Directory "/var/lib/mailman/archives/public/"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI FollowSymLinks require all granted </Directory> #namevirtualhost lists.ccs.covici.com <VirtualHost *:80> DocumentRoot /var/www ServerName lists ServerAlias lists.* UseCanonicalName Off ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /icons/ /usr/lib/mailman/icons/ Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ <Directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/> Options FollowSymLinks </Directory> <Directory "/usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/"> Options +execcgi require all granted </Directory> </VirtualHost> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici(a)ccs.covici.com

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bin/genaliases not generating aliases?
by Caesar Samsi 16 Dec '16

16 Dec '16

Hi Mark, I’m attempting an install from scratch on a new server. It has virtual domain configured postfix. I’ve completed http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node12.html <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node12.html> (Using Postfix server) I’m attempting to complete http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html> (Integrating Postfix and Mailman) When I do: Run the bin/genaliases script to initialize your aliases file. % cd /usr/local/mailman % bin/genaliases I’m assuming the aliases would be generated in /usr/local/mailman/data, but they aren’t What to do? I’m running LinuxMint 18 Sarah (Ubuntu flavor). Thanks, Caesar.

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distutils is not available or incomplete when ./configure mailman 2.1.23?
by Caesar Samsi 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

Hi, When I run configure like this: ./configure --prefix=/var/lib/mailman --with-username=list --with-groupname=list --with-cgi-gid=www-data --with-mail-gid=list --with-mailhost=YOUR.EMAIL.DOMAIN --with-urlhost=YOUR.WEB.DOMAIN A few lines later I get: … checking that Python has a working distutils... configure: error: ***** Distutils is not available or is incomplete for /usr/bin/python ***** If you installed Python from RPM (or other package manager) ***** be sure to install the -devel package, or install Python ***** from source. See sec. 15.1 of the Installation Manual for ***** details What am I missing? Thank you, Caesar.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Root URL / vs /listinfo?
by Mark Sapiro 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

On 12/12/2016 02:39 PM, Caesar Samsi wrote: > When you go to http://mail.mydomain.com/, where do you wind up? I.e., > whats the URL in the address bar of your browser, and is the resultant > page an actual page or a 404? > > I end up at https://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo Which is correct, right? > What happens if you go to https://mail.mydomain.com/? > > I end up at https://mail.mydomain.com/ And you want to end up at https://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo, right. The probable answer to that is you are doing the redirect from http://mail.mydomain.com/ to http://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo before the redirect from http to https. See below. > In /etc/apache2/sites-available I have mailman.con which contains a number of redirects as follows: > > <VirtualHost *:80> > ServerName mydomain.us > ServerAdmin gigs(a)amydomain.com > Redirect / https://mydomain.us/ > </VirtualHost> So going to http://mydomain.us/... will redirect to https://mydomain.us/... > <VirtualHost *:80> > ServerName www.mydomain.us > ServerAdmin gigs(a)amydomain.com > Redirect / https://mail.mydomain.us/ > </VirtualHost> And going to http://www.mydomain.us/... will redirect to https://mail.mydomain.us/... > <VirtualHost *:80> > ServerName mail.mydomain.us > ServerAdmin gigs(a)mydomain.com > Redirect / https://mail.mydomain.us And going to http://mail.mydomain.us/... will redirect to https://mail.mydomain.us/... > ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/mailman-error.log > CustomLog /var/log/apache2/mailman-access.log combined > > <Directory /var/lib/cgi-bin/mailman> > Options FollowSymLinks > AllowOverride All > Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch > Require all granted > </Directory> > > </VirtualHost> > > and aliases as follows: > > Alias /AUP /var/www/html/AUP > Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ > Alias /postfixadmin /var/www/html/postfixadmin > Alias /roundcube /var/www/html/roundcube > Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ > ScriptAlias /admin /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admin > ScriptAlias /admindb /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb > ScriptAlias /confirm /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm > ScriptAlias /create /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create > ScriptAlias /edithtml /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml > ScriptAlias /listinfo /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo > ScriptAlias /options /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/options > ScriptAlias /private /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/private > ScriptAlias /rmlist /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/rmlist > ScriptAlias /roster /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/roster > ScriptAlias /subscribe /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/subscribe > ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/ > ScriptAlias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo So it appears you are relying on ScriptAlias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo to get to the listinfo page from an http(s)://host/ url. Aside from the fact that this isn't a redirect which would explain why when you go to https://mail.mydomain.com/ the address you wind up at is still https://mail.mydomain.com/ (but is it in fact the listinfo page?), it seems very bad because it means that going to any URL like http(s)://host/something, where 'something' is anything that doesn't match one of the preceding Alias or ScripAlias directives will invoke the script /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfosomething that doesn't exist, and even if you made it ScriptAlias / /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ It would still invoke the script /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/something which will probably give a "No such list something" error on the returned listinfo page with http(s)://host/something still in the browser's address bar. Further, this doesn't explain how http://mail.mydomain.com/ redirects to http://mail.mydomain.com/listinfo before redirecting to https. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] footer format
by Mark Sapiro 14 Dec '16

14 Dec '16

On 12/13/2016 03:54 PM, Adam Goldberg wrote: > Send grid gives you the ability to see if someone opened the email, etc. clearly it was sendgrid that added that (and that's why I don't use sendgrid). Yes, that's what web bugs are for, but in addition to being annoying invasions of privacy, they are totally unreliable as a means of knowing whether someone read the mail. All they will tell you is that the recipient 'opened' the mail which doesn't mean she read it. Also many MUAs will not load external images in HTML mail without at least asking first so many people may have read the mail without ever loading the encoded image URL. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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footer format
by Kim, DongInn 13 Dec '16

13 Dec '16

Hi, Is there a way to keep the footer format (or layout)? In the most emails, the footer format is fine but when a user uses digital signature (pgp or S/MIME), it surely breaks the format. It seems that it is possible that the format is broken regardless of the signature issue but I can not track down this case. For example, the broken format looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwukqz2iuqa18cg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.47.1… The right format looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7tqfdxvjb6hxqbg/Screenshot%202016-12-12%2017.48.0… Maybe, can we use <pre> tag around the footer for the html format of email? Regards, -- - DongInn

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