Mailman 3 April 2016 - Mailman-Users

Bounce Processing
by Richard Robbins 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

I recently switched my mailman host to a new provider. One of my users is now encountering problems that he hasn't had before. When he sends a message to a list an error message is generated that is in the following form: From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon(a)cloud1.emwd.com> To: announce-bounces(a)usml.net Cc: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 13:09:24 -0400 Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [subscriber's email address appeared here and I deleted it] host mxa-00149702.gslb.pphosted.com [67.231.156.216] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 550 5.7.0 You are not authorized to use our domain as a sender address. Action: failed Final-Recipient: rfc822; [subscriber's email address appeared here and I deleted it] Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mxa-00149702.gslb.pphosted.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.0 You are not authorized to use our domain as a sender address. When I asked my host about this I was told that this is an SPF configuration issue and that the sender needs to adjust relevant DNS records. The subscriber spoke to his IT person who said that this appears to him to be a blacklist issue and that the host needs to make an adjustment. Meanwhile, mailman has now removed the subscriber from the mailing list and I had to put him back on, but I assume he will be deleted soon. I'm not really sure what to do. Any advice on how to proceed?

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New user - SMTP failure
by Jim Ohlstein 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

Hello, I am trying to set up a new system for a new list but finding that outgoing mail is failing. The setup I have is FreeBSD 10.3 in a jail with localhost at 10.0.250.37. I have confirmed that routing in and out of the jail are correct by sending mail from it via command line, via telnet, and by posting to a newly created list. Unfortunately those messages are not relayed out, nor are list invitations. The system is Mailman 2.1.21, Postfix 3.1.0, and Python 2.7.11. I see this in logs/smtp-failure: Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) Low level smtp error: [Errno 61] Connection refused, msgid: <mailman.0.1461205537.18941.c2-list(a)lists.my.domain> Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) delivery to my(a)email.address failed with code -1: [Errno 61] Connection refused Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) Low level smtp error: [Errno 61] Connection refused, msgid: <mailman.0.1461205853.19010.c2-list(a)lists.my.domain> Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) delivery to my(a)email.address ailed with code -1: [Errno 61] Connection refused Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) Low level smtp error: [Errno 61] Connection refused, msgid: <mailman.0.1461206277.19201.c2-list(a)lists.my.domain> Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) delivery to my(a)email.address failed with code -1: [Errno 61] Connection refused Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) Low level smtp error: [Errno 61] Connection refused, msgid: <mailman.0.1461207076.19195.mailman(a)lists.my.domain> Apr 20 23:07:27 2016 (19197) delivery to my(a)email.address failed with code -1: [Errno 61] Connection refused Nothing shows up in Postfix logs for these refused connections. And lots of lines that look like this in logs/post: Apr 20 23:07:26 2016 (19197) post to c2-list from c2-list-bounces(a)lists.my.domain, size=583, message-id=<mailman.0.1461205085.18509.c2-list(a)lists.my.domain>, 1 failures Scanning Google I saw issues where there were errors in /etc/hosts. That file is world-readable and there is a correct entry for localhost. I have also confirmed that Postfix is listening on 25 on localhost using telnet and sockstat: # telnet localhost 25 Trying 10.0.250.37... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 lists.my.domain ESMTP Postfix The above works for root and for a non-root user. # sockstat | grep 25 postfix smtpd 19679 6 tcp4 10.0.250.37:25 *:* root master 19170 13 tcp4 10.0.250.37:25 *:* I'm at a loss as to where to look next. Thanks for any input. -- Jim Ohlstein "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain

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Sending reminder without password
by Martin Stein 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

Hello, I'm looking for a way to send the monthly password reminder message without the member(s) password(s). The list member should only see the name(s) of the subcribed list(s) and the corresponding URL. How can I modify the responsible mailpasswds-Script in /usr/lib/mailman/cron to preventing it from sending the password(s)? Thank You! -- Martin Stein Attac Germany Webteam Attac Germny Münchener Str. 48 60329 Frankfurt am Main Mail: martin.stein(a)attac.de

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admin web commands not working
by Camelia Botez 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

A couple of weeks ago we configured apache https on our mailman server. Since then we cannot approve/discard/reject any messages using web interface - why? Does anyone have any idea?

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cannot discard messages using web interface
by Camelia Botez 21 Apr '16

21 Apr '16

We have a problem on several mailing lists - the moderator cannot discard or approve messages using web interface to administration of the list. No matter what action we took the message still appears in Held Messages Any idea how to fix this. >From command line is working , but the admin user has no access to the server to run mailman commands.

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Mailman and Thunderbird
by Christian F Buser 20 Apr '16

20 Apr '16

Hi all I have no idea where this question belongs to... but there might be some knowing person out here, I hope! We switched our lists to a new provider and now are using Mailman 2.1.20 from Cpanel. A user complained that his Thunderbird mail application (on MacOS X, if this matters) does no longer treat incoming list mails properly - means, the message is treated by Thunderbird as if it was sent to his "default" mail address (we call it "A" for now) instead of the address he used to subscibe to the list (address "B"). This would not be a big problem - but when he replies to a list message, the reply is sent from "A" instead of "B", resulting in an error message from Mailman... He has analysed the headers and compared with the old list setup headers. As far as he could see, the only difference was that Mailman list includes an "Envelope-To"-header with his subscription address, while the precious list version included a "Delivered-To"-header. I am not a "mail header specialist", but I would guess that these two headers are added by the receiving mail server and not by the list software. Is this assumption correct? If not, can Mailman be configured to send the "Delivered-To"-header? And if there are by chance any Thunderbird-specialists among us: what can he do to correct the situation? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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FW: Installation issues
by Hellings Simon (EAST KENT HOSPITALS UNIVERSITY NHS FOUNDATION TRUST) 20 Apr '16

20 Apr '16

Hi folks I was speaking to someone last night on the IRC chat room @ http://webchat.freenode.net/ who suggested sending an email to this address to try and find a solution to my issues. I have been trying to get Mailman 3 installed on an Ubuntu 14.04 server. I thought I had followed the instructions from https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Mailman%203.0/Mailman%203.0%20Suite%20Install%20o… and http://mailman-bundler.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ but am getting an error 500 when I try and browse to http://x.x.x.x:8000/mailman3. I can open http://x.x.x.x:8000/archives and the login button seems to work, but when I click manage lists I get an error 500 again. The entire process I followed is below: * sudo apt-get update * sudo apt-get install git python3-dev python3-pip python-dev python-pip python-virtualenv * sudo apt-get install nodejs npm * sudo npm install -g less * sudo ln -s /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/bin/node * created new user 'mailmanuser' * 'mkdir /opt/mailman' * 'sudo chown mailmanuser:mailmanuser mailman' * 'su mailman' * 'cd /opt/mailman' * git clone https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman-bundler.git * virtualenv -p /usr/lib/python2.7 venv * source venv/bin/activate * changed password in mailman_web/testing.py * cd mailman-bundler * pip install zc.buildout * buildout * sudo apt-get install ruby-sass * ./bin/mailman-post-update * ./bin/mailman-web-django-admin createsuperuser * ./bin/mailman start * ./bin/mailman-web-django-admin runserver 0.0.0.0:8000 I have attached the django and mailman logs and the top of the page I get back from the server I must have missed something but I don't really know where to go from here... Please can you review and advise if there is anything that I have missed? I look forward to hearing from you in due course. Any pointers greatly received. Kind regards Simon Hellings Senior Database Engineer - Information Technology East Kent Hospitals University NHS Foundation Trust Tel: 01233 651 970 (internal extn 723 1970) | Mob: 07866 793 303 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please respect the environment and only print out this email if necessary. ******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere ********************************************************************************************************************

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Getting lots of unsubscribe emails after migrating to new mailman version
by Steve Wehr 19 Apr '16

19 Apr '16

I host about 75 mailing lists for my clients. Last week I completed a migration to a new server and mailman 2.1.20. Ever since then mailman has been sending hundreds of unsubscribe notifications to many (but not all) of the list owners. The emails addresses in question seem to be old bad addresses that are being bounced. But one user has been receiving 250 such emails per day. Why did this happen after the emigration? Should I just let mailman run it's course and these will stop on their own? Are there some files I can check to see what is going on? Thanks to the community for your help. _____________________ Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design <http://www.tunedinweb.com/> 845-246-9643

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Mailman 2.1.22 release
by Mark Sapiro 18 Apr '16

18 Apr '16

I am pleased to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.22. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is strongly recommended. There are no new features in this release. There are a few i18n updates and some bug fixes. See the attached README for details. Mailman is free software for managing email mailing lists and e-newsletters. Mailman is used for all the python.org and SourceForge.net mailing lists, as well as at hundreds of other sites. For more information, please see our web site at one of: http://www.list.org http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman http://mailman.sourceforge.net/ http://mirror.list.org/ Mailman 2.1.22 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1/ http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/mailman/ -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Message footers
by Christian F Buser 17 Apr '16

17 Apr '16

Hi all The standard message footers for my lists are _______________________________________________ %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)s@%(host_name)s %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s I would like to add some information here how to get help and how to unsubscribe. What would the syntax be to get the following result (I don't like to experiment on the live lists): Unsubscribe: <mailto:listname-unsubscribe@domain.com> Get Help: <mailto:listname-request@domain.com?subject=help> would <mailto:%(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s?subject=help> for the help line worrk? Or rather not? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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