Mailman 3 April 2016 - Mailman-Users

Suggestions for handling archive growth
by Gretchen R Beck 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Hi Folks, As our archives approach a terabyte in size, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions or tips for handling archive growth and storage. I've got some ideas, but am wondering what others might be doing. Just as background, we have a few thousand lists, and support a mid-sized university population, with list creation open to faculty, staff, and students. If there is a better place to ask this question, please point me there. Thanks! Gretchen Beck Carnegie Mellon

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duplicate entry: "mailman@lists.example.org" in virtual-mailman.db
by Manuel Vögele 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Hi everyone. I just set up a mailman installation and almost everything is working as expected. However everytime i create a new mailing list mailman prints the following warning: postmap: warning: /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db: duplicate entry: "mailman(a)lists.example.org" Indeed the virtual-mailman file generated by mailman contains multiple mailman(a)lists.example.org entries: ------------ file: virtual-mailman ------------ # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the binary hash # file virtual-mailman.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE unless you # know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly in sync. If you # screw it up, you're on your own. # # Note that you should already have this virtual domain set up properly in # your Postfix installation. See README.POSTFIX for details. # LOOP ADDRESSES START mailman-loop(a)lists.example.org mailman-loop@localhost # LOOP ADDRESSES END # We also add the site list address in each virtual domain as that address # is exposed on admin and listinfo overviews. # SITE ADDRESSES START mailman(a)lists.example.org mailman # SITE ADDRESSES END # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Wed Apr 13 16:33:48 2016 mailman(a)lists.example.org mailman@localhost mailman-admin(a)lists.example.org mailman-admin@localhost mailman-bounces(a)lists.example.org mailman-bounces@localhost mailman-confirm(a)lists.example.org mailman-confirm@localhost mailman-join(a)lists.example.org mailman-join@localhost mailman-leave(a)lists.example.org mailman-leave@localhost mailman-owner(a)lists.example.org mailman-owner@localhost mailman-request(a)lists.example.org mailman-request@localhost mailman-subscribe(a)lists.example.org mailman-subscribe@localhost mailman-unsubscribe(a)lists.example.org mailman-unsubscribe@localhost # STANZA END: mailman --------- end of file: virtual-mailman -------- Why does that happen? Additionaly mailman didn't append @localhost to the alias in the site adresses block which causes postfix to append @example.org which leads to the invalid alias mailman(a)example.org. I'm using Mailman version 2.1.21. This is my is my configuration: --------------- file: mm_cfg.py --------------- from Defaults import * DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.example.org' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.example.org' VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_DOMAIN = 'localhost' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.example.org'] DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/' PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/archives/%(listname)s' MTA = 'Postfix' ------------ end of file: mm_cfg.py ----------- What am I doing wrong? Manuel

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New Mailman lists - inform users
by Christian F Buser 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Hi all We have moved 3 mailing lists from another system to a Mailman installation (Mailman version 2.1.20). All user addresses have been imported from the old installation, so a user should not notice the new software - unless he wants to change something in his subscription. Therefore it would be helpful if we could mass-mail the same "welcome"-message which is usually sent to new subscribers. What are our possibilities here? Or can all subscribers ask themselves for such a message? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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DMARC bouncing of yahoo and hotmail users
by Ricardo Kleemann 14 Apr '16

14 Apr '16

Hi, I've started noticing bounces to yahoo and hotmail users with this rejection message: Unfortunately, messages from (xxx) on behalf of (yahoo.com.br) could not be delivered due to domain owner policy restrictions. (in reply to end of DATA command)) In researching this problem I found this thread: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-1454-mailman-Mass-bouncing-of-yah… >From the thread it seems to indicate that Mailman v2.1.19 would have a workaround for the issue. First, does anyone know if the updates in Mailman do indeed address the issue? Second, my server is running Ubuntu linux with Mailman v2.1.16 and I'm not able to update to a new version via the apt-get command since this version of Ubuntu has v2.1.16 as the "latest". Is it safe for me to update Mailman via a tarball and not mess up the packaged installation? thanks Ricardo

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implicit destination
by Larry Turnbull 13 Apr '16

13 Apr '16

Hi all: On one of my mailman lists a subscriber's messages keeps getting held for moderator approval with the implicit destination error. I went in to the privacy recipient settings and set the ceiling to 0. Are there any other settings I can adjust to keep this error from occurring? Larry

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Robotic subscription attacks
by Mark Sapiro 13 Apr '16

13 Apr '16

There have been discussions of these robotic subscribes on this list in the past. Up until a couple of days ago, the ban_list or GLOBAL_BAN_LIST regexp '^.*\+\d{4,}@' i.e., any email address whose local part ends with '+' followed by 4 or more digits) has been effective at blocking virtually all of them I've seen. Now there is a new pattern. So far all the new ones I've seen match '^[a-z]{4,}\.?[a-z]{4,}\+[a-z]{4,}(a)gmail\.com$'. Some examples are dramaalertbiz+<letters>@gmail.com kemo.mart+<letters>@gmail.com kezukaya+<letters>@gmail.com killerkeemstar+<letters>@gmail.com leafylagann+<letters>@gmail.com newdramaalert+<letters>@gmail.com ooktap.yaylea+<letters>@gmail.com ubercoffeetime+<letters>@gmail.com where <letters> is a string of 4 or more random letters. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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DMARC hack
by Allan Hansen 10 Apr '16

10 Apr '16

Hi, I have waited almost a year for AOL and Yahoo to admit that they messed up and to remove their DMARC policy. My AOL and Yahoo subscribers are pretty upset at me because I won’t let them post. A number now have two subscriptions, one for posting (from GMail) and another for receiving the messages. So against my better judgement, I included this hack in Cleanse.py; 22c22 < from email.Utils import formataddr, parseaddr — >from email.Utils import formataddr 69,74d68 < < # Added to deal with DMARC issuej < name, addrs = parseaddr(msg.get('from')) < addrs += '.invalid' < del msg['from'] < msg['from'] = formataddr((name, addrs)) \ No newline at end of file I found it in the discussion list. I don’t get compile errors, but Cleanse.pyc is not being updated. I have stopped and restarted Mailman and I have also rebooted, but same non-action. I have not tried ‘compileall’ and am not eager to, either (permissions, where to invoke, etc). Any suggestions? The host OS is Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 with Mailman 2.1.14 Yours, Allan

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mailman list messages being rejected by spam experts?
by Adam Morris 10 Apr '16

10 Apr '16

Hi all, I have a couple of lists set up through my hosting provider. One list with less than 200 members has most messages sent to it rejected by spam experts and the user gets an error message saying the message was rejected because it had a high probability of spam. Another list I have with over 200 people has no issues. I haven't made any changes to either list so think it is something spam experts have done. My ISP has been trying to work this out for over a week. Any suggestions? -- Adam Morris email: adam(a)damorris.com

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Mailman Archive Migration Question
by Richard Robbins 09 Apr '16

09 Apr '16

I have an archive of email messages from a mailman discussion list that I would like to recreate as a series of WordPress posts. The archive currently exists as an mbox file that I'm pruning with an email reader. Once I have the collection culled to what I want to retain I thought it would be nice to use an email reader with a redirect command that would permit me to then send those messages to my WordPress site using the post by email function. Does this approach make sense? Are there alternatives I should consider? Oh -- and I need to find a current mail program that will allow me redirect existing messages to a new address as opposed to using forward.

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Messages considered as spam by Hotmail
by Hedy Dargère 09 Apr '16

09 Apr '16

Hi, All messages sent on my mailman server are considered as spam by Hotmail. My reverse DNS is correctly configurer, IPv4 and IPv6 I have a SPF record and on mail-tester.com I have a 8/10 graduation with mail sent from my server (as root, not with mailman list) : http://www.mail-tester.com/web-qqEoc0 Here a source message, considered as spam : ========================== Received: from DB5PR06MB1557.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.164.40.155) by VI1PR06MB1568.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.164.86.158) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.447.15 via Mailbox Transport; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:56:30 +0000 Received: from DB5PR06CA0042.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.162.165.52) by DB5PR06MB1557.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.164.40.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.26; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:56:30 +0000 Received: from VE1EUR01FT021.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7e01::208) by DB5PR06CA0042.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:52c2::52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.26 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:56:30 +0000 Received: from COL004-MC6F7.hotmail.com (10.152.2.54) by VE1EUR01FT021.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.2.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.453.6 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:56:29 +0000 Received: from listes.np11.org ([46.226.109.222]) by COL004-MC6F7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23143); Sat, 9 Apr 2016 05:56:26 -0700 Received: from listes.np11.org (listes.np11.org [127.0.0.1]) by listes.np11.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B446200F2; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) by listes.np11.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 826E8200F2 for <test(a)listes.np11.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mfilter30-d.gandi.net (mfilter30-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.161]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692F3C5A5A for <test(a)listes.np11.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter30-d.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.194]) by mfilter30-d.gandi.net (mfilter30-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WCaR2GfLUlAg for <test(a)listes.np11.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 78.213.138.119 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (cza11-1-78-213-138-119.fbx.proxad.net [78.213.138.119]) (Authenticated sender: hedy.dargere(a)spheerys.fr) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2870C5A4F for <test(a)listes.np11.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:22 +0200 (CEST) To: <test(a)listes.np11.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Hedy_Darg=c3=a8re?= <hedy.dargere(a)spheerys.fr> Openpgp: id=FAB74B3806526349E53118C11D6619713F1C174C Message-ID: <5708FC00.2030709(a)spheerys.fr> Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:56:32 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 Subject: [Test] test 14h56 X-BeenThere: test(a)listes.np11.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <test.listes.np11.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://listes.np11.org/options/test>, <mailto:test-request@listes.np11.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://listes.np11.org/pipermail/test/> List-Post: <mailto:test@listes.np11.org> List-Help: <mailto:test-request@listes.np11.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://listes.np11.org/listinfo/test>, <mailto:test-request@listes.np11.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 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boundary="------------010607070600040401090505" --------------010607070600040401090505 I don't understand what's append... Do you have ant idea ? Hedy

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