Mailman 3 April 2016 - Mailman-Users

Language preferences
by Christian F Buser April 17, 2016

April 17, 2016

Hi all First, thank you ro Mark Sapiro for his link to the "get-welcome" script. Next points here: (1) The 3 lists are set in language preferences to "German" as preferred language. In the language selection below, only "German" and "English (USA)" are marked as available for the list. It is obviously not possible to de-select "English (USA)" in the "available languages" for the list completely - or did I miss something? The list's subscribers are all of German language. (2) The administration interface has also switched to German after I set German as the preferred language. Since some translations of the settings are not too clear in German, and some settings even are not translated at all, I like to have the whole interface in English - but of course leave the preferred language unchanged. Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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Command output: post script, list not found: XXXXX
by Steve Wehr April 17, 2016

April 17, 2016

First of all I apologize of there is already ananswer to this question. I have been googling and reading your doc for days in hopes of finding an answer. I was running mailman successfully for years on my server. Then this week I cut over to a new server and hired someone to install the latest version of mailman and migrate all my existing lists. This mostly works. I can run /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists and all my lists are displayed. I can use the mailman admin page to list all my lists and I can edit each of them from there. But when I try to send email to any list, my email is sent back to me with the following message: <Test(a)tunedinweb.com>: Command died with status 1: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test". Command output: post script, list not found: test I have run: root: /usr/lib/mailman/bin>sudo -u mail /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post test </dev/null post script, list not found: test and: root: /var/lib/mailman/lists>ls -ld test drwxrwsr-x 2 apache mailman 4096 Apr 15 17:35 test root: /var/lib/mailman/lists>ls -l test total 20 -rw-rw---- 1 apache mailman 5061 Apr 15 17:35 config.pck -rw-rw---- 1 apache mailman 5060 Apr 15 17:34 config.pck.last -rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman 22 Mar 29 13:50 request.pck Can you help me find out what is wrong? Thanks. _____________________ Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design <http://www.tunedinweb.com/> 845-246-9643

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My first time setting up mailman, some misc questions/comments
by Sean McBride April 15, 2016

April 15, 2016

Hi all, I'm setting up mailman for the first time, and have a few questions/comments: - the docs say "Mailman should work pretty much out of the box with a standard Postfix installation. It has been tested with various Postfix versions up to and including Postfix 2.1.5." I'm assuming that version number is just out-of-date? Does mailman work with modern postfix? - I'm doing this on OS X, and notice the docs for that OS are all *very* out of date. Would you accept a patch to update the docs? - OS X's native equivalent of cron is launchd, would you accept launchd config files matching those of crontab.in for inclusion? Thanks, -- ____________________________________________________________ Sean McBride, B. Eng sean(a)rogue-research.com Rogue Research www.rogue-research.com Mac Software Developer Montréal, Québec, Canada

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Suggestions for handling archive growth
by Gretchen R Beck April 15, 2016

April 15, 2016

Hi Folks, As our archives approach a terabyte in size, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions or tips for handling archive growth and storage. I've got some ideas, but am wondering what others might be doing. Just as background, we have a few thousand lists, and support a mid-sized university population, with list creation open to faculty, staff, and students. If there is a better place to ask this question, please point me there. Thanks! Gretchen Beck Carnegie Mellon

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duplicate entry: "mailman@lists.example.org" in virtual-mailman.db
by Manuel Vögele April 14, 2016

April 14, 2016

Hi everyone. I just set up a mailman installation and almost everything is working as expected. However everytime i create a new mailing list mailman prints the following warning: postmap: warning: /var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman.db: duplicate entry: "mailman(a)lists.example.org" Indeed the virtual-mailman file generated by mailman contains multiple mailman(a)lists.example.org entries: ------------ file: virtual-mailman ------------ # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the binary hash # file virtual-mailman.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE unless you # know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly in sync. If you # screw it up, you're on your own. # # Note that you should already have this virtual domain set up properly in # your Postfix installation. See README.POSTFIX for details. # LOOP ADDRESSES START mailman-loop(a)lists.example.org mailman-loop@localhost # LOOP ADDRESSES END # We also add the site list address in each virtual domain as that address # is exposed on admin and listinfo overviews. # SITE ADDRESSES START mailman(a)lists.example.org mailman # SITE ADDRESSES END # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Wed Apr 13 16:33:48 2016 mailman(a)lists.example.org mailman@localhost mailman-admin(a)lists.example.org mailman-admin@localhost mailman-bounces(a)lists.example.org mailman-bounces@localhost mailman-confirm(a)lists.example.org mailman-confirm@localhost mailman-join(a)lists.example.org mailman-join@localhost mailman-leave(a)lists.example.org mailman-leave@localhost mailman-owner(a)lists.example.org mailman-owner@localhost mailman-request(a)lists.example.org mailman-request@localhost mailman-subscribe(a)lists.example.org mailman-subscribe@localhost mailman-unsubscribe(a)lists.example.org mailman-unsubscribe@localhost # STANZA END: mailman --------- end of file: virtual-mailman -------- Why does that happen? Additionaly mailman didn't append @localhost to the alias in the site adresses block which causes postfix to append @example.org which leads to the invalid alias mailman(a)example.org. I'm using Mailman version 2.1.21. This is my is my configuration: --------------- file: mm_cfg.py --------------- from Defaults import * DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.example.org' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.example.org' VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_DOMAIN = 'localhost' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.example.org'] DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/' PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s/archives/%(listname)s' MTA = 'Postfix' ------------ end of file: mm_cfg.py ----------- What am I doing wrong? Manuel

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New Mailman lists - inform users
by Christian F Buser April 14, 2016

April 14, 2016

Hi all We have moved 3 mailing lists from another system to a Mailman installation (Mailman version 2.1.20). All user addresses have been imported from the old installation, so a user should not notice the new software - unless he wants to change something in his subscription. Therefore it would be helpful if we could mass-mail the same "welcome"-message which is usually sent to new subscribers. What are our possibilities here? Or can all subscribers ask themselves for such a message? Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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DMARC bouncing of yahoo and hotmail users
by Ricardo Kleemann April 14, 2016

April 14, 2016

Hi, I've started noticing bounces to yahoo and hotmail users with this rejection message: Unfortunately, messages from (xxx) on behalf of (yahoo.com.br) could not be delivered due to domain owner policy restrictions. (in reply to end of DATA command)) In researching this problem I found this thread: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeo-1454-mailman-Mass-bouncing-of-yah… >From the thread it seems to indicate that Mailman v2.1.19 would have a workaround for the issue. First, does anyone know if the updates in Mailman do indeed address the issue? Second, my server is running Ubuntu linux with Mailman v2.1.16 and I'm not able to update to a new version via the apt-get command since this version of Ubuntu has v2.1.16 as the "latest". Is it safe for me to update Mailman via a tarball and not mess up the packaged installation? thanks Ricardo

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implicit destination
by Larry Turnbull April 13, 2016

April 13, 2016

Hi all: On one of my mailman lists a subscriber's messages keeps getting held for moderator approval with the implicit destination error. I went in to the privacy recipient settings and set the ceiling to 0. Are there any other settings I can adjust to keep this error from occurring? Larry

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Robotic subscription attacks
by Mark Sapiro April 13, 2016

April 13, 2016

There have been discussions of these robotic subscribes on this list in the past. Up until a couple of days ago, the ban_list or GLOBAL_BAN_LIST regexp '^.*\+\d{4,}@' i.e., any email address whose local part ends with '+' followed by 4 or more digits) has been effective at blocking virtually all of them I've seen. Now there is a new pattern. So far all the new ones I've seen match '^[a-z]{4,}\.?[a-z]{4,}\+[a-z]{4,}(a)gmail\.com$'. Some examples are dramaalertbiz+<letters>@gmail.com kemo.mart+<letters>@gmail.com kezukaya+<letters>@gmail.com killerkeemstar+<letters>@gmail.com leafylagann+<letters>@gmail.com newdramaalert+<letters>@gmail.com ooktap.yaylea+<letters>@gmail.com ubercoffeetime+<letters>@gmail.com where <letters> is a string of 4 or more random letters. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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DMARC hack
by Allan Hansen April 10, 2016

April 10, 2016

Hi, I have waited almost a year for AOL and Yahoo to admit that they messed up and to remove their DMARC policy. My AOL and Yahoo subscribers are pretty upset at me because I won’t let them post. A number now have two subscriptions, one for posting (from GMail) and another for receiving the messages. So against my better judgement, I included this hack in Cleanse.py; 22c22 < from email.Utils import formataddr, parseaddr — >from email.Utils import formataddr 69,74d68 < < # Added to deal with DMARC issuej < name, addrs = parseaddr(msg.get('from')) < addrs += '.invalid' < del msg['from'] < msg['from'] = formataddr((name, addrs)) \ No newline at end of file I found it in the discussion list. I don’t get compile errors, but Cleanse.pyc is not being updated. I have stopped and restarted Mailman and I have also rebooted, but same non-action. I have not tried ‘compileall’ and am not eager to, either (permissions, where to invoke, etc). Any suggestions? The host OS is Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 with Mailman 2.1.14 Yours, Allan

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