Mailman 3 April 2016 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allow discard-and-forward for spam filters?
by Adrian Pepper 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

> From: Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:42:18 -0700 > > On 3/30/16 5:49 AM, Adrian Pepper wrote: > > > > However, in > > https://python.org/mailman/admin/mailman-users/privacy/spam > > you can only Dicard or Hold. > > (Complete list Defer, Hold, Reject, Discard, Accept). > > > > It would be nice if for each filter rule individually you > > could choose "discard and forward to moderator". > > > > Has that actually been implemented in subsequent versions of Mailman 2, > > i.e. between 2.1.12 and 2.1.21 ? > > > No. > > It is an interesting idea. The problem is that unless someone submits a > patch, I'm the one that would end up doing it, and even with a patch, > I'd need to audit it. I'm starting to get more involved in MM 3, and as > such, have less time for MM 2.1 "nice to haves". You can always submit a > request for MM 2.1 at <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug>. > > I don't know what your mods "for recognizing alternative email > addresses" are, but there is since MM 2.1.19 and equivalent_domains list > attribute to, e.g., say that @mac.com, @me.com and @icloud.com are all > the same for list membership purposes. It is about user name equivalences, and, even if it could be made not specific to here, my hunch is the mods are specific to here, with built-in database lookup assumptions and stuff. I didn't really need to say what the local mods are for, I was just indicating an additional possible reason for inertia. > > Now certainly we wouldn't want [or would appreciate the choice > > not] to "forward to moderator" all discards on the /spam page. > > And, really, the "does this fail the membership (filter) requirements" > > is something you'd like to be able to determine in the spam filters. > > (And simply discard those, perhaps forwarding if they are not too > > spammy). (Because really really we'd like to "hold" slightly spammy > > messages which meet membership requirements, but discard-and-forward > > the others, but discarding-and-forwarding-to-moderator all would be > > reasonable compromise). > > > The easiest way for me to implement this would simply be to add a > "Discard and Forward" action to the other choices. Adding a Forward > checkbox that would apply to any selected action is certainly more > flexible, but more complicated to implement. Yes, that's what I assumed might be done unless it really turned out to be easier to make it a separate checkbox. With the separate checkbox you could end up with the silliness of "hold and forward to moderator". Thanks for the reply, I'll try to find time to send my suggestion to https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+filebug Adrian.

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Too much rejects from gmail.com recipient
by Hedy Dargère 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

Hi, A user on one of my hosted mailing lists just received a message which said he must confirm is registration, after too much rejects, before cancellation of his registration. He has a gmail mailbox (I don't know if it's matter). And maybe it is not alone :( I have send email from my server to my personnal gmail mailbox with succes, and a test on www.mail-tester.com give my 8/10 You can see the result here : http://www.mail-tester.com/web-KUfidY I don't have DKIM authentification on the mailman server, and I don't know if it's possible to set it up. Else, I don't have any idea how to solve the problem :( Hedy

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header field: Sender
by willi uebelherr 01 Apr '16

01 Apr '16

Dear friends, one question. If the Sender-field exist and mailman create a new Sender-field-line, then he have to delete the old one, or not? And maybe, this is true also for all other header fields, what mailman create? many greetings, willi St. Elena de Uairen, Venezuela

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