Mailman 3 May 2016 - Mailman-Users

Lost GNU Web mgmg interface after MAC OSX update
by Caulfield Kevin Ross 20 May '16

20 May '16

Hi gang : Silly question, during a MAC OSX update we lost the ability to manage our mailman GNU system using the http interface. Has anyone else encountered this ? Can you steer me in the direction of a solution? I suspect the upgrade replaced the conf file or dropped Custom stanza's somewhere, OSX is a bit of hybrid BSD flavor, and is not my specialty. I will be submitting to an OSX board also. Thanks in advance Kevin Ross

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Logging sequence?
by Mark J Bradakis 20 May '16

20 May '16

Mailman is not working. Messages come in, nothing goes out. Logs are useless, providing no clue as to what is happening. In a working mailman system. what is the sequence of logging that a message would go through? mjb.

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Error
by rex＠rexgoode.com 18 May '16

18 May '16

The last time I posted here, my hosting company said that my newly upgraded plan did not support Mailman. I've been wrangling with them over that for a few weeks. They finally got it working, they said. All of my lists became active again, but now I can't send mail to them. I've sent this error to them, but I'm hoping someone here can help me. When I hit send, I get: SMTP Error (550): Failed to add recipient "listname(a)mydomain.com" (5.1.1 <listname(a)mydomain.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table). This happens on all of my mailman lists. Substitute listname and mydomain.com appropriately, of course, but every list gets it. Any advice I can give to my hosting company? Rex

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confirm email marked as spam - reduce unique identifier length?
by Jim Dory 17 May '16

17 May '16

Hello, I manage a community list-serv and our host - Hawkhost.com , has had their servers marking our subscription confirmation emails as spam so the end user never sees them. They are held at the Hawkhost servers. In a trouble ticket to them, they have postulated the following possible solution: " I believe that the subject of the confirmation email "confirm 40c7fa45251ce14ecd7c26c712648332fa3b326b" is triggering the spam experts filter. Is it possible to reduce the subject line to something simpler? " I do not know the answer - if it is possible to reduce that unique identifier or not, or whether that would even help. This trouble ticket has been ongoing for the last week and they have released the held confirmation emails, but every new attempt at subscribing is still blocked (held at their spam expert software quarantine or whatever). Suggestions? I manage the list for the community, but it is hosted by a local club so would be a bit cumbersome to simply "change hosts". Plus we have about 4GB of archives. thanks for reading and any help.. Jim

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Syntax question using the Web Interface with PHP
by Terence Ronalds 17 May '16

17 May '16

I'm trying to use the Web Interface from a PHP page and I have a problem when trying to add a person to a list. I can get it to work fine if I just add an email address to the list, however I can't figure out the syntax needed to also include their real name. Here's what I have that works so far: <?php $name='Adam B. Tester'; $email=adam(a)somewhere.com'; $sub_url = "http://lists.XXXX.com/admin.cgi/members-XXXX.com/members/add?subscribe_or_i…"; $content=file_get_contents($sub_url . $email ); echo $content;?> The page at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Additional%20web%20administration%20tools doesn't explain well enough how to use the _realname parameter to get the person's name included in the transaction. Can anyone please show me how to change the above coding to do this? Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt
by JB 14 May '16

14 May '16

I always thought that the difference was that the acknowledge was sent when a new user requested to subscribe (to acknowledge the request and the new user to verify it) and that the welcome message was sent after the new user completed the subscribe process in its entirety as set up by the list owner. This is what the names would indicate to me anyway. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/13/16, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt To: mailman-users(a)python.org Date: Friday, May 13, 2016, 12:03 PM On 5/9/16 5:55 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: > > Both can be edited by the list admin from the admin webinterface in General Options -> welcome_msg and "HTML Page Editing" -> "Welcome email text file", respectively. > > What is the difference between the welcome_msg text box and the subscribeack.txt and why would you, as list admin, edit one over the other? Historically, the ability to edit the subscribeack.txt template via the admin UI was added in Mailman 2.1.6. Prior to that there was only the welcome_msg to customize the welcome message. The difference is welcome_msg is a list attribute, whereas a custom subscribeack.txt template is a list and language specific template. welcome_msg is simpler to edit and is part of the list's configuration, but is only in the list's preferred language. subscribeack.txt is more complex to edit, but allows editing of more that just the 'welcome' paragraph. Also, by changing the list's preferred_language via the web UI (or directly editing the templates/ directory, see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030605>), it is possible to have list specific versions of this template in different languages for multi-language lists. but these templates are part of the Mailman instalation itself rather than list attributes. The bottom line is it probably doesn't matter which you use if the welcome_msg is sufficient and if you don't need multiple languages, but if a list is 'moved' to a different installation, the welcome_msg will go with it ans the subscribeack.txt template(s) won't. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jebva%40yahoo.com

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What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt
by Henrik Rasmussen 13 May '16

13 May '16

The welcome message that is sent to new subscribers (provided that "General Options -> Send_welcome_msg" is set to Yes) comes from the text file /var/lib/mailman/lists/LISTNAME/en/subscribeack.txt. If this file includes %(welcome)s, the information from the field "General Options -> welcome_msg" is also included. Both can be edited by the list admin from the admin webinterface in General Options -> welcome_msg and "HTML Page Editing" -> "Welcome email text file", respectively. What is the difference between the welcome_msg text box and the subscribeack.txt and why would you, as list admin, edit one over the other? Yours faithfully Henrik Rasmussen

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What am I missing?
by Robert Heller 13 May '16

13 May '16

I just installed mailman 2.1.16 on a new (CentOS 6) server and copied the data and configuration data from my old server (CentOS 5) also running mailman 2.1.16. The old server is stil the 'production server' and mailman's page is mailman.deepsoft.com. I am trying to test things on the new server but I am having a problem I cannot figure out. I changed the http mailman.conf to have a ServerName of mailman2.deepsoft.com and changed things in the /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py to have the default URL be mailman2.deepsoft.com, but for some (unknown) reason, when I go to mailman2.deepsoft.com in firefox, it redirects to mailman.deepsoft.com. If I use lynx, it properly goes to http://mailman2.deepsoft.com/mailman/listinfo, but displays a bug message. Why? What config file did I miss? -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services

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Meaning of "Postfix SMTP server: errors from dd11328.otherdomain.tld[ip.ip.ip.ip]"
by Kala Balik 11 May '16

11 May '16

Dear List-Members, today we ran our first mailing over our new Mailman instance. We received a few bounces and the following email which left me clueless. Please, what is this message trying to tell me? Is this us sending out, or is this someone trying to answer to our mailing (and failing to log in via TLS)? I checked my /var/log/mail logs - to no avail. Thanks for your answers! Cordially, KB Transcript of session follows. Out: 220 lists.domain.tld ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) In: EHLO dd11328.otherdomain.tld Out: 250-lists.domain.tld Out: 250-PIPELINING Out: 250-SIZE 10240000 Out: 250-VRFY Out: 250-ETRN Out: 250-STARTTLS Out: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES Out: 250-8BITMIME Out: 250 DSN In: STARTTLS Out: 454 4.7.0 TLS not available due to local problem In: MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=236 Out: 250 2.1.0 Ok In: RCPT TO:<list-bounces(a)lists.domain.tld> ORCPT=rfc822;list-bounces(a)lists.domain.tld Out: 250 2.1.5 Ok In: RSET Out: 250 2.0.0 Ok In: QUIT Out: 221 2.0.0 Bye For other details, see the local mail logfile

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nodupes doesn't seem to be working with aliases
by Curtis Villamizar 09 May '16

09 May '16

I'm not sure if this counts as suppressable dupes. All users have nodupes set. bin/export.py | grep nodupes | wc -l 183 bin/export.py | grep nodupes | grep -v True | wc -l 0 I have a postfix virtual-alias of the form: a b, c, d c e, f d g, h g i, j h k, l If I send mail to a set of mailing lists then dupes get suppressed but not if I send to an alias that expands to the same set of mailing lists. Mailman gets two copies from postfix but the message-id is the same for both. There is a to= and orig_to= in maillog but the messages should be otherwise identical including the timestamps. Is there a way to suppress dupes in this situation? I have 5 such aliases for convenience but if I can't suppress dupes its an annoyance since some people are on multiple mailing lists. For some reason I thought this used to work (but might have imagined it). I'd rather not send a bunch of cross posted test messages, though if more info is needed I can create some new "just for test" mailing lists and aliases (on a just for test server if need be). Curtis

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