Mailman 3 May 2016 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] turn on tracing?
by Richard Shetron May 20, 2016

May 20, 2016

How do I find out what uid:gid the programs are running with? Would I be better downloading a fresh copy of mailman and doing a reinstall over the broken copy? The initial version was installed back in ubuntu 8.04 days when mailman wasn't a ubuntu package. Since then for Ubuntu they changed some of the default groups for things, like mailing lists. On 5/20/2016 11:47 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/20/2016 05:35 AM, Richard Shetron wrote: >> How do I turn on tracing to find the source of this error. The >> interface worked until I told check_perms to fix permissions so I'm sure >> there is a permission issue. Also the qrunner won't run, which I also >> suspect is a permission error. My partner who did the install has >> retired for medical reasons so I'm trying to learn how to do all sorts >> of things in too little time :( I tried to look in both the mailman >> logs and the apache logs for errors and didn't find anything. >> >> Bug in Mailman version 2.1.21rc2 >> >> We're sorry, we hit a bug! > > > There should be a traceback and other information about this error in > Mailman's error log. If it's not there, there is probably a permission > issue in writing the log. > > You can at least temporarily ensure that Mailman's logs are writable by > anyone and see if that helps. > > Also, you can edit $prefix/scripts/driver and at line 33 set > > STEALTH_MODE = 0 > > and the traceback will be included on the "we hit a bug" page. > > Also, if check_perms -f broke things, permissions must have been set in > some non-standard way to begin with. See the FAQ article at > <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030645>. >

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Valid emails being unsubscribed?
by Steve Wehr May 20, 2016

May 20, 2016

Hi Mark and friends, I host about 100 mailing lists for clients, and have recently moved to a new installation of mailman. My clients are telling me they get lots of notices of people being unsubscribed from their lists, that they never got before, on the older version of mailman. I've been trying to validate the unsubscribes, but I'm not sure how to do it. I look in mailman's bounce log, and see that bounces are being received and users are being unsubscribe. I looked in the postfix maillog, and I see successful sends to these users, then a bounce would be returned. I've done some spot checks by sending an email from my personal email account to a few of the users who have been unsubscribed, and all those emails go through successfully and are not bounced back to me. The users tell me they are not unsubscribing from the list. I've also see some emails being unsubscribed in the bounce log, that I personally sent to and know that those are valid email addresses. Where could I go to learn more about why bounces are received, and try to debug this problem? Does the community have any suggestions for me? Thanks. --------------- Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design www.Tunedinweb.com

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Lost GNU Web mgmg interface after MAC OSX update
by Caulfield Kevin Ross May 20, 2016

May 20, 2016

Hi gang : Silly question, during a MAC OSX update we lost the ability to manage our mailman GNU system using the http interface. Has anyone else encountered this ? Can you steer me in the direction of a solution? I suspect the upgrade replaced the conf file or dropped Custom stanza's somewhere, OSX is a bit of hybrid BSD flavor, and is not my specialty. I will be submitting to an OSX board also. Thanks in advance Kevin Ross

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Logging sequence?
by Mark J Bradakis May 20, 2016

May 20, 2016

Mailman is not working. Messages come in, nothing goes out. Logs are useless, providing no clue as to what is happening. In a working mailman system. what is the sequence of logging that a message would go through? mjb.

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Error
by rex＠rexgoode.com May 18, 2016

May 18, 2016

The last time I posted here, my hosting company said that my newly upgraded plan did not support Mailman. I've been wrangling with them over that for a few weeks. They finally got it working, they said. All of my lists became active again, but now I can't send mail to them. I've sent this error to them, but I'm hoping someone here can help me. When I hit send, I get: SMTP Error (550): Failed to add recipient "listname(a)mydomain.com" (5.1.1 <listname(a)mydomain.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table). This happens on all of my mailman lists. Substitute listname and mydomain.com appropriately, of course, but every list gets it. Any advice I can give to my hosting company? Rex

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confirm email marked as spam - reduce unique identifier length?
by Jim Dory May 17, 2016

May 17, 2016

Hello, I manage a community list-serv and our host - Hawkhost.com , has had their servers marking our subscription confirmation emails as spam so the end user never sees them. They are held at the Hawkhost servers. In a trouble ticket to them, they have postulated the following possible solution: " I believe that the subject of the confirmation email "confirm 40c7fa45251ce14ecd7c26c712648332fa3b326b" is triggering the spam experts filter. Is it possible to reduce the subject line to something simpler? " I do not know the answer - if it is possible to reduce that unique identifier or not, or whether that would even help. This trouble ticket has been ongoing for the last week and they have released the held confirmation emails, but every new attempt at subscribing is still blocked (held at their spam expert software quarantine or whatever). Suggestions? I manage the list for the community, but it is hosted by a local club so would be a bit cumbersome to simply "change hosts". Plus we have about 4GB of archives. thanks for reading and any help.. Jim

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Syntax question using the Web Interface with PHP
by Terence Ronalds May 17, 2016

May 17, 2016

I'm trying to use the Web Interface from a PHP page and I have a problem when trying to add a person to a list. I can get it to work fine if I just add an email address to the list, however I can't figure out the syntax needed to also include their real name. Here's what I have that works so far: <?php $name='Adam B. Tester'; $email=adam(a)somewhere.com'; $sub_url = "http://lists.XXXX.com/admin.cgi/members-XXXX.com/members/add?subscribe_or_i…"; $content=file_get_contents($sub_url . $email ); echo $content;?> The page at https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Additional%20web%20administration%20tools doesn't explain well enough how to use the _realname parameter to get the person's name included in the transaction. Can anyone please show me how to change the above coding to do this? Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt
by JB May 14, 2016

May 14, 2016

I always thought that the difference was that the acknowledge was sent when a new user requested to subscribe (to acknowledge the request and the new user to verify it) and that the welcome message was sent after the new user completed the subscribe process in its entirety as set up by the list owner. This is what the names would indicate to me anyway. -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/13/16, Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt To: mailman-users(a)python.org Date: Friday, May 13, 2016, 12:03 PM On 5/9/16 5:55 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: > > Both can be edited by the list admin from the admin webinterface in General Options -> welcome_msg and "HTML Page Editing" -> "Welcome email text file", respectively. > > What is the difference between the welcome_msg text box and the subscribeack.txt and why would you, as list admin, edit one over the other? Historically, the ability to edit the subscribeack.txt template via the admin UI was added in Mailman 2.1.6. Prior to that there was only the welcome_msg to customize the welcome message. The difference is welcome_msg is a list attribute, whereas a custom subscribeack.txt template is a list and language specific template. welcome_msg is simpler to edit and is part of the list's configuration, but is only in the list's preferred language. subscribeack.txt is more complex to edit, but allows editing of more that just the 'welcome' paragraph. Also, by changing the list's preferred_language via the web UI (or directly editing the templates/ directory, see <https://wiki.list.org/x/4030605>), it is possible to have list specific versions of this template in different languages for multi-language lists. but these templates are part of the Mailman instalation itself rather than list attributes. The bottom line is it probably doesn't matter which you use if the welcome_msg is sufficient and if you don't need multiple languages, but if a list is 'moved' to a different installation, the welcome_msg will go with it ans the subscribeack.txt template(s) won't. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jebva%40yahoo.com

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What is the difference between welcome.msg and subscribeack.txt
by Henrik Rasmussen May 13, 2016

May 13, 2016

The welcome message that is sent to new subscribers (provided that "General Options -> Send_welcome_msg" is set to Yes) comes from the text file /var/lib/mailman/lists/LISTNAME/en/subscribeack.txt. If this file includes %(welcome)s, the information from the field "General Options -> welcome_msg" is also included. Both can be edited by the list admin from the admin webinterface in General Options -> welcome_msg and "HTML Page Editing" -> "Welcome email text file", respectively. What is the difference between the welcome_msg text box and the subscribeack.txt and why would you, as list admin, edit one over the other? Yours faithfully Henrik Rasmussen

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What am I missing?
by Robert Heller May 13, 2016

May 13, 2016

I just installed mailman 2.1.16 on a new (CentOS 6) server and copied the data and configuration data from my old server (CentOS 5) also running mailman 2.1.16. The old server is stil the 'production server' and mailman's page is mailman.deepsoft.com. I am trying to test things on the new server but I am having a problem I cannot figure out. I changed the http mailman.conf to have a ServerName of mailman2.deepsoft.com and changed things in the /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py to have the default URL be mailman2.deepsoft.com, but for some (unknown) reason, when I go to mailman2.deepsoft.com in firefox, it redirects to mailman.deepsoft.com. If I use lynx, it properly goes to http://mailman2.deepsoft.com/mailman/listinfo, but displays a bug message. Why? What config file did I miss? -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller(a)deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services

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