Mailman-Users April 2017

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate Moderator Functions
by Andre de Azevedo Cunha 18 Apr '22

18 Apr '22

Hi, i`m trying to reject messages bigger then MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE. I configured my Hold.py was described bellow: replaced hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, _ MessageTooBig(bodylen,_mlist.max_message_size)) with rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size) _ raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice_ The message was rejected, but the sender dont receive any notify about that. The mailman vette log too. How can i solve this? Thanks, André Dennis Putnam wrote: > >I am getting back to this and I have a question about maintenance. What >is the correct way to modify this so that it will not get destroyed by >updates? There are two ways to proceed. You can modify Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py itself, but before overwriting it, make a "diff -u" between the base Hold.py and your modified version to use as a patch to apply after any upgrade. A better way is to leave Hold.py unchanged and make your own edited version as say Mailman/Handlers/MyHold.py. Then you can replace the base Hold.py Module with your MyHold.py by putting GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' in mm_cfg.py. Note that if you are going to do this, and you want also to move MimeDel before Hold, you must either put the above line after the lines GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') in mm_cfg.py or put it before, but then also change GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') to GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('MyHold'), 'MimeDel') I recommend the former as in # # Put MimeDel ahead of Hold so "too big" is based on content filtered # message. # GLOBAL_PIPELINE.remove('MimeDel') GLOBAL_PIPELINE.insert(GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold'), 'MimeDel') # # Replace Hold with local version # GLOBAL_PIPELINE[GLOBAL_PIPELINE.index('Hold')] = 'MyHold' Since mm_cfg.py survives upgrades, this should survive. >Also does this same procedure apply to other automatic rejections such >as implicit destination? >On 9/24/2012 8:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> To automatically reject or discard messages that exceed the list's size >> limit, find the section of the Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py that ends with >> the lines >> >> >> if bodylen/1024.0 > mlist.max_message_size: >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> # no return >> >> (there is one wrapped line in the above) and replace >> >> hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, >> MessageTooBig(bodylen, >> mlist.max_message_size)) >> >> with >> >> rej = MessageTooBig(bodylen, mlist.max_message_size)) >> raise Errors.RejectMessage, rej.reason_notice >> >> to reject the message or with >> >> raise Errors.DiscardMessage >> >> to discard the message. Note that this will not honor the list's >> forward_auto_discards setting. to do that you would need to put >> >> from Mailman.Handlers.Moderate import do_discard >> >> with the other imports near the beginning of the >> Mailman.Handlers.hold.py module and then replace the lines with >> >> do_discard(mlist, msg) Yes, similar changes would apply to other holds in Hold.py. -- Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net [1]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan -- Links: ------ [1] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Add "sender's name/email" to BODY of mail as header?
by Mal 17 Feb '21

17 Feb '21

I want all mails sent to the list to come from the list's email address... But, in this case, if the user forgets to sign their name at the bottom of their mail body, effectively the mail to the list is anonymous...! Is there a way to add the user name (or email address) to the top of each mail so that the mails have the name of the sender, while the mail itself comes from the list address? I have looked high and low for an answer, but noone seems to have the solution. Thank you! Mal

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Mailman CGI Error-Group mismatch error
by Wang, Mary Y 10 Sep '20

10 Sep '20

Hi, I received the following error this morning. So I rerun configure again with the following command: ./configure --with-cgi-id=apache --prefix=/var/mailman. I'm still getting the same error. Is there any place that I can look for so that I can debug this problem better? Perhaps, looking at the config history file or something. Any other places that I can check the cause of this error? "Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the script as group "nobody", or re-run configure, providing the command line option `--with-cgi-gid=apache'." Thanks Mary

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Find a smtp server to send out emails
by Leon 20 Mar '20

20 Mar '20

Hi, This problem is not caused by mailman, but I still want to give it a shot here. I'm hosting a mailing list on top of mailman. Emails are supposed to be sent out by AWS ses. However, ses requires that sender address must be verified, which leads to a problem that emails sent by subscribers to mailing list cannot be sent to other subcirbers, since their addresses are not verified. And it is impossible to verified every subscriber. Are there smtp service providers allowing unverified email address to send out emails, or do I have other solutions? Thanks. Leon

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Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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changing domains on Mailman implementation
by Keith Seyffarth 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Is there an efficient way to change the domain name that mailman is affiliated with? I have two mailing lists that were created for an organization before that organization had their own domain. At the time the organization was sure they did not want their own domain and would not be getting a domain. Since then, they have chosen to get a domain and set up a web site. I would like to move their mailing lists onto their domain. It looks like the process for this is: 1) get the list of subscribers 2) delete the mailing list from the one domain (losing the archives) 3) create the mailing list on the new domain 4) subscribe the list of subscribers This process doesn't seem too difficult, but I would prefer to keep the archives, if possible. Both domains are on the same server, running CentOS7 and PLESK 12.5, if that makes a difference. Thanks, Keith

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Query for un confirmed subscription requests v2.1
by Dean Suhr 01 May '17

01 May '17

Greetings, We have just set up a new small mailing list where we are very hands on with invitations to join. We had Confirm and Approve selected … and came to find that a notable percentage of Confirmation messages went to the user’s SPAM folders. (This is in spite of them being subscribers to at least one other list of ours). Is there a way to query what email addresses have been sent Confirmation messages but not responded/confirmed? Is there a time after which unconfirmed subscription requests are purged? I know there are no more features being added to 2.1 … but it sure seems like being able to follow people through the subscription process, and maybe even to have the ability to resend the Confirmation emails would make us look better. With today’s flow we don't know they requested to subscribe … and they get angry at us because they think we are not responding their subscription request. For the benefit of others … we updated the text on the Subscribe results page that you can find under Edit the public HTML pages and text files to tell folks that they should look for a Confirmation email. This web page pops up after they click subscribe - no email involved. And in fact, we removed email verification altogether since we deal in a more closed environment. The risk of someone subscribing someone else by faking their email or of a typo is lower than the frustration of double digit capture of verification emails into SPAM. Thanks, Dean

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Shortening mailman sign-up page links
by Dean Suhr 27 Apr '17

27 Apr '17

My Mailman list server is running on a linux server. I want to use a simplified URL to get to the list signup page. (I am afraid the underscore might be mistaken for a space in invitation emails when the email client automatically underlines links). I am not a htaccess wizard and have tried both file and domain level redirecting with no joy. I thought the ".org" in the live URL might be the problem but apparently it's not. Thanks in advance. Simplified URL: http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld <http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld> Live signup URL: http://mldfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/i-have-mld_mldfamily.org <http://mldfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/i-have-mld_mldfamily.org> These two don’t work: RedirectMatch 301 http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld <http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld>(.*) http://mldfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/i-have-mld_mldfamily.org/$1 Redirect 301 http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld <http://mldfamily.org/i-have-mld> http://mldfamily.org/mailman/listinfo/i-have-mld_mldfamily.org Thanks in advance. Dean

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Restore a single mail from a data backup
by Rumesh Bandara 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

I accidentally discarded a message from the mailing list. Fortunately, I have the mailman data backup. Is there a way to restore a single mail from the backup? Thanks, Rumesh

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mailman uses wrong encoding, /etc/mailman/[language] not generated
by Johannes Rohr 25 Apr '17

25 Apr '17

Dear all, we have recently migrated from a server with Ubuntu 14.4 to one using Ubuntu's current LTS. The default language for most mailing lists is German. Since the migration, mailman serves all pages and mail notifications in latin-1 instead of utf-8, which the header still decleares the content to be UTF-8, which leads to broken display, see eg https://lists.uferwerk.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ I noticed that the subdirectory for the English templates /etc/mailman/en exists, but there is no /etc/mailman/de On Debian/Ubuntu, /var/lib/mailman/Templates is a symlink to /etc/mailman, which by default is owned by root:root. I changed that to root:list and restarted mailman, in the hope that /etc/mailman/de would eventually be generated, but it wasn't. What is the mechanism, by which the templates directory for the respective language is generated? Could this be a permission issue, and could the mismatch between the charset declared in the header of the message or website and the actual charset in the content be somehow related to that? Thanks in advance for any suggestion, Johannes

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