Mailman 3 September 2017 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] List adds information to sender's name
by Christian F Buser Sept. 20, 2017

Sept. 20, 2017

Hello Christian F Buser. On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:56:56 +0200, you wrote: >> You are seeing the "Mung From" option behaviour. > > But why does this not happen with all list messages; only with a part > of them? I thought it was coming from the fact that the authors cc'ed > themselves - but a test message where I put my own address in cc did > not "munge" the sender's address... And, additionally: why does my original question have "via Mailman-Users" appended, while my reply (using the same mail app and the same settings) does not? And why, when I reply to a message on this list, is the reply only going to the author of the message and not to the list? Of course, this may be a setting of the Mailman-Users list, but I do not understand why anyone should do it this way... Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org .

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Bug in Mailman version 2.1.23
by Menachem Bazian Sept. 12, 2017

Sept. 12, 2017

Hi, I inherited an install of Mailman and I know very little about it. I have been able to do most tasks (it's pretty intuitive) but I can't get in to the admindb portion of the program. I can login but when I do I get this: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.23 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. The list resides on a host so I do not believe that I have command line access. I have no idea even where I can see the mailman error logs. Can someone point me in the right direction on this? Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

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Confusion with Mailman3 Config
by Sebastian Kotthoff Sept. 10, 2017

Sept. 10, 2017

Hello everybody, after installing mailman3 successfully (took me 5 evenings), I'm now confused about the configuration. I'm using postorius, which is very nice and where I'm able to configure the most stuff. Today I figured out, how to change the default email templates for domains/list in the filesystem. But now, I like to change the default language of a list from English to German, so that the German templates are selected. I found some hint in URL: https://pythonhosted.org/mailman/src/mailman/commands/docs/create.html, where they use a command line (mailman client or mailman shell?) to change the language during creation. This does not work for me, but the mayer point is, that I got lost between the different kinds of interfaces. It seems, that there are: - Rest server API - start via ".local/bin/ipython3" in my environment? - Rest client API - start via "ipython" ? - mailmanclient / mmclient - start via "python manage.py mmclient" in mailman-suite_project - mailman shell - start via ".local/bin/mailman shell" What would be the best way of configure a mailing list? The howto from the URL above is working with the mailman shell for me, but unfortunately, it is about creating mailling lists, not creating. Are there any howto about modify a maillist? Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Kotthoff Rechenzentrum Universität Mannheim B6, 23-29; Building B; Room 1.10 68159 Mannheim Tel: +49 621 181 2516 Fax: +49 621 181 2682

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Message stuck in held messages queue. Why, how to fix?
by Ian Kelling Sept. 7, 2017

Sept. 7, 2017

I mark it as accept then submit, the request returns 200, the page reappears and the message is still there. Why? Things I wonder if they are related: * Under the message, it says "The sender is now a member of this list" * The post goes over http, but the get requests are over https. It's a private list, running mailman 2.1.13, the url goes like this: https://site/mailman/admindb/listname If there's not a good answer, it's not a big deal, just curious. I could discard the message and see what happens too. Thanks. -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org

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How to blocking malicious subscription requests?
by Ian Kelling Sept. 5, 2017

Sept. 5, 2017

There is at least one very major mail provider where joe+any_string@domain goes to the inbox of joe by default, allowing bad people to get my mailman instance to send many subscription mails to joe+random_string@domain, messing up joe's inbox, because mailman just sees different addresses. Can mailman stop doing this? If not, I'm open to an exim rule to block or at least rate limit mailman from doing this too. Also, is there a way to rate limit subscription requests even for the exact same email address? For example, don't allow someone to subscribe to list b if they have > 5 unconfirmed subscription requests in the last day? -- Ian Kelling | Senior Systems Administrator, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: B125 F60B 7B28 7FF6 A2B7 DF8F 170A F0E2 9542 95DF https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org

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individual moderation notices stopped suddenly
by Larry Kuenning Sept. 5, 2017

Sept. 5, 2017

Currently running Mailman 2.1.9 with a low-volume moderated list called kuenning-relatives(a)qhpress.org. I'm supposed to receive notifications of posts to be moderated at kuenning-relatives-owner(a)qhpress.org, both as single notifications as the posts come in and as daily batch notifications (normally at 8:00 AM) if there are any accumulated posts from the day before. On Aug. 31 I received, as usual, a single-post notification, > Subject: Kuenning-Relatives post from [user@domain] requires approval which I acted on promptly. On Sept. 1 at 8:00 AM I received a daily summary notification, > Subject: 1 Kuenning-Relatives moderator request(s) waiting covering one post for which there had _not_ been a single-post notification (not the above post but a reply to it). Again this morning, Sept. 3, I got another summary, > Subject: 4 Kuenning-Relatives moderator request(s) waiting covering 4 posts for _none_ of which there had been any single-post notification. This sudden and unexpected loss of the immediate single-post notifications naturally makes it harder to moderate the posts in a timely fashion. No changes were made to the list or the mailman setup during the relevant time period. Where should I look in the mailman logs for clues about what's wrong? I tried cd-ing to the log directory (/var/log/mailman) and grepping for the notification address kuenning-relatives-owner(a)qhpress.org, but nothing turned up. P.S. I know I'd be better off if I could upgrade from 2.1.9 to something that can cope with DMARC, but this is a Plesk setup and I'm afraid to mess with it for fear of breaking something. Any advice about this would be welcome but isn't the main subject of this query. -- Larry Kuenning larry(a)qhpress.org

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IncomingRunner absent
by Eric Sept. 3, 2017

Sept. 3, 2017

My IncomingRunner is absent and I do not know why. Messages just sit in ~mailman/qfiles/in. /mailman# ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' root 5686 0.0 0.2 265576 5380 ? Sl Aug08 8:53 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock -p /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.pid list 10721 0.0 0.0 54932 500 ? S Aug30 0:37 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s list 10722 0.0 0.0 54924 624 ? S Aug30 0:00 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s list 10723 0.0 0.0 92584 696 ? S Aug30 0:41 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s list 10724 0.0 0.0 54940 448 ? S Aug30 0:37 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s list 10725 0.0 0.0 54908 448 ? S Aug30 0:36 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s list 10726 0.0 0.0 54888 448 ? S Aug30 0:33 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s list 10732 0.0 0.0 56556 476 ? S Aug30 1:23 /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s list 22691 0.0 0.0 63428 4 ? Ss Aug15 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -q start How can this be and what do I need to do to fix it? Eric

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"Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes
by Terry . Sept. 1, 2017

Sept. 1, 2017

Hi Mark, etc, I’ve been a happy user of Mailman for years via a webhost on a shared server which runs cPanel. I’m the list owner for various lists, and in general it’s been working well. The current Mailman version the webhost have is 2.1.23. But in recent months I’ve noticed that, as list owner, when I subscribe or unsubscribe someone, instead of just receiving an email with the subject: “<listname> subscription notification” or: “<listname> unsubscribe notification” I receive an email with the subject: “Bounce action notification” Which contains: “This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: Bro [for example] Member: mylistadminaddress(a)mydomain.com<mailto:mylistadminaddress@mydomain.com> [for example] Action: Subscription bounce score incremented. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at mailman(a)somedomain.com<mailto:mailman@somedomain.com>.” [for example] And that email contains an ATTACHMENT which has the subject: “<listname> subscription notification” or: “<listname> unsubscribe notification” Notes: - This didn’t used to happen with these same lists, and I don’t know what’s triggered the change in behaviour. - Even if I change the list “owner” address to another of my addresses, it still happens. - I have admin_notify_mchanges set to “Yes”. - I don’t have any moderators set up. Questions: Q1. Is this a known issue? Q2. What’s the likely cause of this problem suddenly starting to happen? Q3. What’s the likely solution? Q4. Do you need any more info to troubleshoot the cause of this? If so, what, exactly? Thanks. Terry

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