Mailman 3 January 2018 - Mailman-Users

Reply-to options not working
by Hal 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

I'm a little confused about the "reply-to" setting as I was pretty sure I had set my list up so that all replies by default go back to the list, but for some reason a reply goes directly to the sender. I had "reply_goes_to_list" set to "this list" along with the list's posting address set for the "reply_to_adress". Since this didn't work and I tried to read the details/help for the Mailman web-interface but can't seem to figure this out. I did change the "reply_goes_to_list" setting to "Explicit address" but that didn't appear to change anything. I'm on Mailman 2.1.12. Hal

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
by Grant Taylor 07 Feb '18

07 Feb '18

On 01/24/2018 10:40 AM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 1/24/2018 12:50 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I think there's an obvious algorithm for "smart single reply": >> >> 1. If there is a Reply-To, address the message to Reply-To. >> 2. Else if there is a List-Post, address the message to List-Post. >> 3. Else address the message to From. (If there's no From, the >> message violates the most basic RFCs so all bets are off.) >> >> Assuming that no lists munge Reply-To, I think you'll agree that this >> is what you want 90% of the time (conservative estimate). There are >> some issues with this algorithm in practice: > > If a message had only List-Post and From, that wouldn't get the result > that I would want. I would want Reply to go to the author. As a list > member, I consider it an absolute requirement that Reply go to the > author and only to the author; I boycott any list that directs Reply to > the list. (I've dropped off the "staff" list for an event I was > participating in for this reason.) I think that the difference of Reply vs Reply-List applies to your statement. You are entitled to your opinion of how a mailing list should operate and free to configure any mailing lists you manage accordingly. I prefer that discussion mailing lists direct replies to the mailing list so that other subscribers are aware of and can participate in the discussions. > I want "Reply" to go to the author, and "Reply All" to go to the author, > the list, and any other To or CC destinations. I simply can't > understand any other answer. I don't understand why anybody feels a > need for "Reply List". Lack of understanding does not mean that other ways are invalid. See my comment above for why I want replies to my message to /discussion/ lists to go to the list. In fact, I really dislike receiving the CC when messages are going to the list that I'm subscribed to. > How that translates into headers that the mailing list software > generates, shrug. Yes, the mailing list software could always force in > a Reply-To: <author> to get the semantics that I want, but why should it > add that noise? Or the mailing list software could omit List-Post, > which I suppose would be fine too (since I don't understand why you > would want it). I thought the List-Post: header was more informational about how to post messages to the mailing list. - I thought MUAs started offering an option to use the List-Post header to purposefully send replies to the list instead of the author (From:|Reply-To:). > Before DMARC munging, I could have (mis)configured my MUA to ignore > Reply-To and mostly gotten the right semantics even on an evil > Reply-To:<list> list. With DMARC munging that's no longer an option; I > need Reply-To: <author> on DMARC-munged lists. How can you tell the difference between me setting the Reply-To: to be the Mailman Users mailing list (which I have done for this email) and the mailing list manager doing it? What do you do in these cases? Not sending the reply to the list is contrary to my desires (evident by me setting the Reply-To:) or the mailing list owners desires if they choose to munge the reply. And yes, the mailing list is going to munge the From for DMARC reasons. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Reply-to options not working
by Stephen J. Turnbull 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

Jordan Brown writes: > I want "Reply" to go to the author, and "Reply All" to go to the author, > the list, and any other To or CC destinations. I simply can't > understand any other answer. I don't understand why anybody feels a > need for "Reply List". Your preference is noted, but you are definitely in a minority of those whose opinions I've seen over the decades. Even those who use Reply and Reply All as you do (I do on this list, for example), usually have considered it suboptimal. The preferences of list owners also should be respected, to the extent that replying users don't care. The prevalence of reply-to-munging says that they (or perhaps a majority of their subscribers) want replies to automatically go to the list.

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Mailman 2.1.26 Security release Feb 4, 2018
by Mark Sapiro 05 Feb '18

05 Feb '18

An XSS vulnerability in the Mailman 2.1 web UI has been reported and assigned CVE-2018-5950 which is not yet public. I plan to release Mailman 2.1.26 along with a patch for older releases to fix this issue on Feb 4, 2018. At that time, full details of the vulnerability will be public. This is advance notice of the upcoming release and patch for those that need a week or two to prepare. The patch will be small and only affect one module. -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan

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Sample of an Uncaught bounce notification
by Julian H. Stacey 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to forward to developers to extend pattern matching. http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1 Cheers, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant, BSD Linux Unix Systems Engineer, Munich http://berklix.eu/brexit/ UK stole 3,700,000 votes; 700,000 from Brits in EU. http://berklix.eu/queen/ Please sign petition to Queen: Help get votes back.

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Users set to digest, but still getting non-digest?
by Andrew White, PhD 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

Searched the archives, but I'm hitting a wall. I have users who are set to digest (when I look at their profile I can see that they are), but still are getting individual list emails, and not getting digest at all. Any hints on places to look to problem solve this? I had some permissions issues a while ago (after importing old list archives), but am pretty sure those are set now. Any ideas? Thanks! ........................................................................ Andrew White, PhD Associate Director DBT-Linehan Board of Certification, Certified DBT Clinician* Licensed Clinical Psychologist Portland DBT Institute (503) 290.3281 (phone) (503) 231.8153 (fax) Please be aware that e-mail communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. This e-mail message and any documents attached to it are confidential and may contain information that is protected from disclosure by various federal and state laws, including the HIPAA privacy rule (45 C.F.R., Part 164). This information is intended to be used solely by the entity or individual to whom this message is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this message without the sender's written permission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Accordingly, if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately with a copy to hipaa(at)pdbti.org and destroy this message. Please do not include personal identifying information such as your birth date, or personal medical information in any emails you send to us. No one can diagnose your condition from email or other written communications and is not a reliable mechanism for emergency communication.

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mailman not creating archives
by Attila Kinali 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

Hi, I have here a mailman installation on debian/stable. Everything works fine, beside mailman not creating archives, for none of the mailinglists. I am pretty sure it's just a form of PEBCAK and I forgot to set a flag somewhere, but I cannot find it. The mailinglist config looks as follows: ## Archive options # # List traffic archival policies. # Archive messages? # # legal values are: # 0 = "No" # 1 = "Yes" archive = True # Is archive file source for public or private archival? # # legal values are: # 0 = "public" # 1 = "private" archive_private = 0 # How often should a new archive volume be started? # # legal values are: # 0 = "Yearly" # 1 = "Monthly" # 2 = "Quarterly" # 3 = "Weekly" # 4 = "Daily" archive_volume_frequency = 1 There is nothing in the logs and I checked that the permissions of the directories are as they should be (comparing to an other installation, also on debian/stable, where it works). I kind of run out of places to check. So, I would appreciate any hint as to where to look. Thanks in advance. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

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Creating new list on web interface
by rachelbushman13＠gmail.com 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

Hi, I am new to this so sorry if this is a dumb question. I could not seem to find any discussions online of people have this same problem. I am trying to create a new list using the web interface, however when I go to mydomain/mailman/create, it just takes me to my website (of the same domain name) and gives me a 404 page not found error. What am I doing wrong?

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Photos from Macs getting removed by list server
by Peter Shute 24 Jan '18

24 Jan '18

We’re finding that messages sent to our list by Mac users are having jpg attachments removed. I assume this is something to do with the list being plain text only, and the email format created by the mail program Macs use. We’re also finding that if ipad/iphone users send emails with photos, the list lets the photos through, but iPad/iphone users can’t see them, causing them to assume they’ve been stripped off. Evidence for these symptoms is partly anecdotal, so might not be exactly right. It’s hard to get information from users about exactly which device and which program they used to create the emails. Has anyone else seen the same things? Is there any easy fix for them? Peter Shute Sent from my iPad

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too many recipients
by Ricardo Kleemann 22 Jan '18

22 Jan '18

Hello, I'm using mailman 2.x with postfix with much trouble. Recently I started seeing a lot of errors like this: delivery to xxx failed with code 452: 4.5.3 Error: too many recipients I do have both mailman and postfix configured for max recipients of 10, so I don't understand why there would still be complaints. Any suggestions on how else I can further debug this? thanks Ricardo

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