Mailman 3 November 2018 - Mailman-Users

Fwd: Yahoo, AOL again
by Jim Dory 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:48 PM Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> wrote: > > > > The Yahoo page at <https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html> > has some tips. You may need to adjust the retry strategy of your MTA. > > > > So looking at the EXIM config on the host VPS server, there is a Section:RETRYSTART that is blank, A RETRYBLOCK that has this: +secondarymx * F,4h,5m; G,16h,1h,1.5; F,4d,8h * * F,2h,15m; G,16h,1h,1.5; F,4d,8h And a RETRYEND which is blank. So I suppose the RETRYBLOCK is where the edit would go. This server is basically just handling the mailman list, plus some very small traffic from server reports, website stuff (very rare), and other stuff not worth mentioning. So a couple attempts in case some server or service is down somewhere temporarily.. but otherwise I hardly think it should be trying for what looks like 4 days, if this is what I'm correctly seeing. Any one have thoughts on how to edit, given that qualification? /jim

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Yahoo, AOL again
by Jim Dory 19 Nov '18

19 Nov '18

For the last couple months I have been getting bounces from yahoo and aol subscribers. Hundreds a day, depending on list traffic. I think some mail gets through to them (the yahoo subscribers) but a lot gets bounced, if not all. None of the the subscribers have complained anyway about not receiving messages. Not sure what to do. I had been on Yahoo's what-cha-call-it when a user complains or marks a message as spam, I would be able to tell what users from a report Yahoo would send me. Assume I'm still subscribed to that service, but have not received any for a long time.. maybe this past summer got one or two. The bounces are similar to what follows: " <user>@yahoo.com host mta5.am0.yahoodns.net [98.136.102.54] SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined MAIL FROM:< nome-announce-bounces(a)nomekennelclub.com> SIZE=7608: 421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages from 198.252.110.38 temporarily deferred due to user complaints - 4.16.55.1; see https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html: retry timeout exceeded" I'm also getting a few bounces from .me and .icloud accounts.. But that may be a different issue.. I don't know: " <user>@me.com host mx3.mail.icloud.com [17.178.97.72] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 550 5.7.1 [CS01] Message rejected due to local policy. Please visit https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204137"

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DMARC mitigation failure
by Jayson Smith 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

Hi all, I have a weird one. This morning an AOL user posted to one of my lists. Normally this is no problem, since I have the list in question set to munge the From: of messages from problematic domains (AOL, Yahoo, etc). For some reason it didn't work this time. Naturally, I received bounce reports left and right, complaining about unauthenticated Email from AOL. Did my server fail to retrieve the DMARC information for AOL for some transient reason, or could there be another problem? I have double checked that the list is set to munge the From: of such messages, but it didn't this time. Thanks for any help, Jayson

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Trouble wit Permission denied on /var/lib/mailman/logs/error
by Christian Zimmer 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

I am using ubuntu 18.4 LTS, apache 2.4.29, mailman 2.1.26 I have the problem that my mailman dies with "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.26 " The apache log says IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/logs/error': /srv/www/vhosts/lists.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin Obviously i moved the scripts admin, listinfo, etc. to /srv/www/vhosts/lists.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/mailman/admin because i didn't manage to make them work with apache 2.4 in the /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman directory. The files there were served instead of executed. I have all this "Options ExecCGI" and "SetHandler cgi-script" in my .conf. Mailman is running as user list, group list. The symbolic link "logs" in/var/lib/mailman is owned by root:list, has lrwxrwxrwx permissions and points to /var/log/mailman /var/log/mailman is owned by root:list with permissions drwxrwsr-x The files in /var/log/mailman (i.e. error) are all owned by root:list and have permissions rw-rw-r-- What is wrong ?

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non_members script install issue
by Lucio 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

I'm trying to use the non_members script by Mark Sapiro, which can be downloaded here: https://www.msapiro.net/scripts/non_members on a Debian buster/sid amd64 system. # non_members Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/sbin/non_members", line 63, in <module> import paths What should I do?

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Mailman 2.1.18 - Users can not subscribe to mailing list
by Bastian Binder 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

Hi @all, we are using Mailman 2.1.18 and on some mailing lists users receive an error message when trying to subscribe to the list on the listinfo page. The error occurs on the listinfo page in the "Subscribing to ..." section. If an email address is entered in the field "Your email address:" and the button "Subscribe" is pushed an error message appears ("You have to enter a valid email address"). The error occurs only on 2 mailing lists. The other mailing lists work fine. The mailman configuration has not changed. The main difference to the working lists is, that in the Form-URL on the listinfo page does forward to an URL where a "/cgi-bin" is added before "/mailman.." I would be happy if somebody could help us with this problem With best regards Bastian Binder

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Mailman & DMARC question
by David Gibbs 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

Folks: I need a confirmation of a theory regarding Mailman (well, mailing lists in general) and DMARC. After updating to a version of MM that supports handling domains with DMARC policies, everything seems to be working OK. My quandary is: Is there any risk in implementing my own more restrictive DMARC policy? Currently my DMARC policy is 'p=none' ... but I'd like to change that to 'p=quarantine'. Is there any risk running mailing lists from a domain with that DMARC policy? My theory is that there isn't ... since DMARC is mainly concerned with the from address and, as long as mail sent from my domain aligns with the DMARC policy, everything should be good. Is this correct ... or am I missing something? Thanks! david -- IBM i on Power Systems: For when you can't afford to be out of business! I'm riding 615 miles (Yes, you read that right) in the American Diabetes Association's Tour de Cure to raise money for diabetes research, education, advocacy, and awareness. You can make a tax deductible donation to my ride by visiting https://gmane.diabetessucks.net. You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive donation map ... https://gmane.diabetessucks.net/map (it's a geeky thing). I may have diabetes, but diabetes doesn't have me!

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MM3 on FreeBSD
by Odhiambo Washington 02 Nov '18

02 Nov '18

Hola a todos! I have finally read bits of documents here and there and managed to install MM3 on a FreeBSD 11.2 server. This is for testing and getting to grasp the new monster. Later, I hope I could run my MLs on MM3. So, so far, this is what I have done - all successfully: pkg install python36 pkg install py36-sqlite3 [ln -s /usr/local/bin/python3.6 /usr/local/bin/python3] python3 -m ensurepip pip3 install mailman I have opted to use /opt/mailman3 as the directory for MM3. So I did: cd /opt mkdir mailman3 cd mailman3 mailman info [Here I got some errors, which Google led me to set some ENV variables] export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 mailman info The directory has been populated with some data. # Then from http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html pip3 install postorius pip3 install hyperkitty pip3 install mailman-hyperkitty pip3 install uwsgi All those installed successfully. However, I am not sure where they installed into on my FreeBSD, but I guess no es importa :) What next now?? Edit the var/etc/mailman.cfg?? Then how to launch the MM3 queue runner? Postorius? HyperKitty? etc? TIA -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft."

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