Mailman 3 March 2018 - Mailman-Users

Bounces counter for list subscribers
by Christian F Buser March 20, 2018

March 20, 2018

Hi all We recently had a problem that a mail provider refused to accept messages from our domain - including list messages - for addresses on their server. The problem has been sorted out and the messages are now going through again. But all addresses on that receiving domain had been disabled once due to too many bounces. I re-enabled these users again, but of course this was before the real problem was solved. So in the mean time, I received several bounce warnings again - but not enough to disable the list members again automatically. How is the bounce counter handled by mailman? Is it "reset" automatically after a certain period without delivery problems? Or can I reset it manually (I did not see this possibility, but it still might exist)? Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel 68.0.33 Thank you, Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: http://www.chance-for-children.org

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Yahoo rejects
by Jim Dory March 20, 2018

March 20, 2018

Mostly an FYI but also curious if anyone else sees this. I'm constantly having problems with yahoo it seems but this time, for the last couple days, I've been seeing this message: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com To: nome-announce-bounces(a)nomekennelclub.com Cc: Bcc: Date: Subject: Delivery failure Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). <bsberr-snip(a)yahoo.com <bsberry9297(a)yahoo.com>>: This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (bsberr-snip(a)yahoo.com <bsberry9297(a)yahoo.com>) [0] (I've snipped the address) I got this delivery failure on perhaps 30 yahoo users over the last couple days, and it is repeating. When I write to any of the users personally, they respond that - yes, they are still there. regards, Jim

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Mailman 2 and read notifications
by Carlos R. Pasqualini March 18, 2018

March 18, 2018

Hi list I see a blank response from a list's email from a user ho say he did not sent any response. It seems like an automatic response to a read confirmation, but this response was sent to many lists on our server (triggering moderation alerts on the other lists, and my attention). Is it possible that the original sender set the 'confirmation request' on the MUA and that request propagated past mailman and got into receiver's MUA? If yes: Is there a way to intercept and delete these requests on the Mailman host? Using mailman from Debian 8: 2.1.18-2+deb8u2 Thanks!! -- Carlos Pasqualini Administración de Redes Facultad de Ciencias de la Alimentación Universidad Nacional de Entre Ríos http://www.fcal.uner.edu.ar/

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preventing users from subscribing via Mailman interface?
by Andrew White, PhD March 16, 2018

March 16, 2018

Searched, but didn't see anything. I would like to make it so our list automatically discards any subscription requests, and sends a message back telling the person they need to visit a website to sign up (currently, I do this manually and send people: "Hi! In order to join DBT-L, please visit: [1]https://www.pdbti.org/dbt-l/ Thanks so much!" Is there a way to automate this I'm not seeing? Thanks! ........................................................................ Andrew White, PhD Associate Director DBT-Linehan Board of Certification, Certified DBT Clinician* Licensed Clinical Psychologist Portland DBT Institute (503) 290.3281 (phone) (503) 231.8153 (fax) Please be aware that e-mail communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. This e-mail message and any documents attached to it are confidential and may contain information that is protected from disclosure by various federal and state laws, including the HIPAA privacy rule (45 C.F.R., Part 164). This information is intended to be used solely by the entity or individual to whom this message is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this message without the sender's written permission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Accordingly, if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately with a copy to hipaa(at)pdbti.org and destroy this message. Please do not include personal identifying information such as your birth date, or personal medical information in any emails you send to us. No one can diagnose your condition from email or other written communications and is not a reliable mechanism for emergency communication. References Visible links 1. https://www.pdbti.org/dbt-l/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo rejects
by Andrew White, PhD March 16, 2018

March 16, 2018

We (pdbti.org) have been seeing an increase in rejects for yahoo users this week as well... At 12:57 PM 3/16/2018, Jim Dory wrote: Mostly an FYI but also curious if anyone else sees this. I'm constantly having problems with yahoo it seems but this time, for the last couple days, I've been seeing this message: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)yahoo.com To: nome-announce-bounces(a)nomekennelclub.com Cc: Bcc: Date: Subject: Delivery failure Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). <bsberr-snip(a)yahoo.com <bsberry9297(a)yahoo.com>>: This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (bsberr-snip(a)yahoo.com <bsberry9297(a)yahoo.com>) [0] (I've snipped the address) I got this delivery failure on perhaps 30 yahoo users over the last couple days, and it is repeating. When I write to any of the users personally, they respond that - yes, they are still there. regards, Jim ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org [1]https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: [2]http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: [3]http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: [4]http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: [5]https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/awhite%40pdbti.org ........................................................................ Andrew White, PhD Associate Director DBT-Linehan Board of Certification, Certified DBT Clinician* Licensed Clinical Psychologist Portland DBT Institute (503) 290.3281 (phone) (503) 231.8153 (fax) Please be aware that e-mail communication can be intercepted in transmission or misdirected. This e-mail message and any documents attached to it are confidential and may contain information that is protected from disclosure by various federal and state laws, including the HIPAA privacy rule (45 C.F.R., Part 164). This information is intended to be used solely by the entity or individual to whom this message is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this message without the sender's written permission is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Accordingly, if you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately with a copy to hipaa(at)pdbti.org and destroy this message. Please do not include personal identifying information such as your birth date, or personal medical information in any emails you send to us. No one can diagnose your condition from email or other written communications and is not a reliable mechanism for emergency communication. References Visible links 1. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users 2. http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 3. http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 4. http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ 5. https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/awhite@pdbti.org

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Anyone successfully using a proxy with recaptha v2 in mailman?
by Gretchen R Beck March 16, 2018

March 16, 2018

Hi Folks, My apologies if this is the wrong list. We're moving a departmental mailman server which was unfirewalled (except the server's local firewall) that used the recaptcha v1 client and additions from Andrea Veri. The new machine is behind a network firewall, and the "recommendation" is to access this via proxy (which makes sense since google makes no guarantee about their IP addresses. Has anyone gotten this working using a proxy and if so how? (Also, if this is the wrong place to post, please point me to somewhere better!) Thanks! Gretchen Beck Carnegie Mellon

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Stuck OutgoingRunner
by Sebastian Hagedorn March 16, 2018

March 16, 2018

Hi, we've been running Mailman for many years and have never had stability issues, but about a month ago we moved the server from RHEL 5 to RHEL 6 and to the current version (2.1.25), and since then it has already happened twice that one of our four OutgoingRunners got "stuck" and stopped handling mail. When that happens a simple restart of the service does not work. These processes remained: mailman 1663 0.0 0.0 233860 2204 ? Ss Jan16 0:00 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 1677 0.1 0.9 295064 73284 ? S Jan16 35:35 /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:3:4 -s root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ strace -p 1677 Process 1677 attached recvfrom(10, ^CProcess 1677 detached [root@mailman3/usr/lib/mailman/bin]$ lsof -p 1677 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME python2.7 1677 mailman cwd DIR 253,0 4096 173998 /usr/lib/mailman python2.7 1677 mailman rtd DIR 253,0 4096 2 / ... python2.7 1677 mailman 10u IPv6 46441320 0t0 TCP mailman3.rrz.uni-koeln.de:55764->smtp-out.rrz.uni-koeln.de:smtp (ESTABLISHED) In both instances the OutgoingRunner was stuck on an SMTP connection. I had to use "kill -9" to get rid of it. Any ideas what might be causing that? Cheers Sebastian -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - Weyertal 121 (Gebäude 133), Zimmer 2.02.:. .:.Regionales Rechenzentrum (RRZK).:. .:.Universität zu Köln / Cologne University - ✆ +49-221-470-89578.:.

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send_digests() issue w/ Mailman 2.1.26
by Dave Pascoe March 12, 2018

March 12, 2018

Sending digests has broken on upgrade to either 2.1.25 or 2.1.26....2.1.26 I'm pretty sure. Getting this error: Mar 12 17:50:55 2018 (17857) send_digests() failed: decode() takes no keyword arguments Mar 12 17:50:55 2018 (17857) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 110, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 158, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 313, in send_i18n_digests toctext = to_cset_out(toc.getvalue(), lcset) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 77, in to_cset_out return text.decode(lcset, errors='replace').encode(ocset, TypeError: decode() takes no keyword arguments This is on a soon-to-be-upgraded CentOS 5 system so Python 2.4.3. Any quick fix for ToDigest.py to make it temporarily compatible with Python 2.4.3? TIA, Dave

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Approving often fails and displays wrong page
by Peter Shute March 12, 2018

March 12, 2018

We’ve found recently that more often than not when we approve a message from its details view, after we click Submit, it goes to another page that’s not part of mailman. It goes to the root of our cpanel, ie same url minus the /mailman/... part, but displays the correct url in the address bar. We can reliably approve messages from the summary page. Is this a mailman fault? Cpanel fault? DNS? Whatever it is, it doesn’t do it for every message. Sometimes the message will be approved properly, and it’ll return to the summary view. When it does go wrong, even repeating it 10 times still fails, so it appears to be somehow triggered by particular messages. And that also discounts a DNS fault? We have long had an issue where it displays a 404 error when we try to approve, but that was rare. This problem happens for most messages. Ideas for diagnosis? Peter Shute Sent from my iPad

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mailman3-core installation on debian stretch/maria-db
by Wolfgang Bock March 10, 2018

March 10, 2018

Hi, I need your help: I installed mailman3 on a debian stretch environment and faced following problems. 1. On "mailman start" I got the error message: Starting Mailman's master runner /usr/bin/python3: can't open file '/sbin/master': [Errno 2] No such file or directory 2. connection to maria-db In debian stretch maria-db is running. In my mailman.cfg I set: [database] class: mailman.database.mysql.MySQLDatabase url: mysql+pmysql://#username#:#user-pawo#@localhost/#databasename#?charset=utf8&use_unicode=1 This produces as errormessage: sqlalchemy.exc.NoSuchModuleError: Can't load plugin: sqlalchemy.dialects:mysql.pmysql On mailman start the error message is: File "/usr/local/bin/mailman", line 11, in <module> sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/mailman/bin/mailman.py", line 94, in main initialize(config_path) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 189, in initialize initialize_2(propagate_logs=propagate_logs) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/mailman/core/initialize.py", line 160, in initialize_2 config.db = getUtility(IDatabaseFactory, utility_name).create() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/mailman/database/factory.py", line 54, in create database.initialize() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/mailman/database/base.py", line 106, in initialize self.engine = create_engine(url, isolation_level='READ UNCOMMITTED') File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/__init__.py", line 424, in create_engine return strategy.create(*args, **kwargs) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/strategies.py", line 57, in create entrypoint = u._get_entrypoint() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/engine/url.py", line 156, in _get_entrypoint cls = registry.load(name) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/util/langhelpers.py", line 221, in load (self.group, name)) sqlalchemy.exc.NoSuchModuleError: Can't load plugin: sqlalchemy.dialects:mysql.pmysql Can You help?? Regards Wolfgang

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