Mailman 3 August 2018 - Mailman-Users

Debugging mass invitations using web page interface...
by The Mailing List Server Admin 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Dear Mailman Cognoscenti, I'm helping one of my list owners send out 5K plus invitations to students to subscribe to his mailing list. Our current configuration: Mailman v2.1.20 RHEL v5.11 Semdmail v8.13.8 Apache v2.2.3 Since this was the first time doing this, I suggested breaking the batch input into 3 groups, 50, 500, and the rest. The 50 went fine, as did the 500, but the largest batch gave him a generic web server error: > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. > > Please contact the server administrator, root(a)conundrum.unh.edu and > inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might > have done that may have caused the error. > > More information about this error may be available in the server > error log. I looked at the logs and I couldn't find anything that hinted at what went wrong. So I asked the owner to send me the last back and I'd give it a try. I wrote a script that removed folks already subscribed to his list and split the remaining subscribers up into 6 files with a thousand records each. I just tried uploading the 1st batch of 1K, with the following options: Subscribe these users now... (*) Invite Send welcome message... (*) No Send notifications... (*) No And entered a 7 line paragraph explaining the invitation. I ended up having the same error happen. Looking at the Mailman logs, I can't see any difference before or after my submission. In the HTTPD logs, I see: >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [warn] [client 132.177.215.132] Timeout >> waiting for output from CGI script >> /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add >> [Fri Aug 26 19:59:23 2016] [error] [client 132.177.215.132] >> Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: >> https://lists.unh.edu/mailman/admin/campus.connection/members/add So is there an inherent limit to the number of invites that can be submitted via the web form? As a work around, how would I do large invites on behalf of the owner from the command line, including the 'extra text' that is allowed via the web interface? -- Cordially, the UNH Mailing List Server Admins Bill Costa, senior admin (603) 862-3056

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Re: [Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own messages.
by Mike Flannigan 14 Dec '18

14 Dec '18

For gmail, this is the fix: http://www.woodworth-ancestors.com/fix-gmail-problem-rootsweb/index.htm Users must do this. Mike On 8/21/2018 11:00 AM, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: > > Hi all, > Members of lists I run that are all from a particular ISP aren't > seeing messages they post to my lists. > Someone sent me the below link. > If this can be implemented by me on my lists how can I do it? > > https://www.lsoft.com/news/techtipLSV-issue2-2017.asp. > > TIA.

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changing domains on Mailman implementation
by Keith Seyffarth 20 Sep '18

20 Sep '18

Is there an efficient way to change the domain name that mailman is affiliated with? I have two mailing lists that were created for an organization before that organization had their own domain. At the time the organization was sure they did not want their own domain and would not be getting a domain. Since then, they have chosen to get a domain and set up a web site. I would like to move their mailing lists onto their domain. It looks like the process for this is: 1) get the list of subscribers 2) delete the mailing list from the one domain (losing the archives) 3) create the mailing list on the new domain 4) subscribe the list of subscribers This process doesn't seem too difficult, but I would prefer to keep the archives, if possible. Both domains are on the same server, running CentOS7 and PLESK 12.5, if that makes a difference. Thanks, Keith

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Sorting pending requests?
by Mark J Bradakis 29 Aug '18

29 Aug '18

I have a feeling I may have asked this question a few years ago. Maybe not. When you go to the admin web page of pending moderator requests, the messages are presented in a list using alphabetical order of the sender. Is there a way to easily change this so they are presented by date, oldest to newest? Thanks, mjb.

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Multi-Server install
by Roger 29 Aug '18

29 Aug '18

I inherited a mult-server install of Mailman. During a recent upgrade of the servers, I'm realizing the master-qrunner.pid file is in the 'data' directory which is shared between the two servers. I have the lock file set to use the hostname in the name of the lock file. Shouldn't the PID file be in a local directory? the old servers had a cron entry to re-start mailman every night. I'm wondering if there was flakiness with a shared PID file going on that was 'fixed' by rebooting mailman nightly. Roger

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Something wrong with moving a list
by Richard Johnson 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

I recently moved a list from one server to another. Probably I missed something. Everything seems to be correct except that the footer which should be produced (using "Personalize: yes") doesn't get the values substituted with the real info. It looks like this: %(real_name)s mailing list %(real_name)s@%(host_name)s %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Is there something obvious I'm missing? /raj

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blocking bad digest replies
by Bernie Cosell 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

I'm a newcomer to replies [first time in many many years I've had digests on one of my lists, so it is all very new to me]. What I would like is to set up a content filter that 'holds' replies by sloppy posters. Specifically, I'd like to catch posts with a Subject line of "Re; <mylist digest>" and one that contains the 'footer' at the end of the post [both indicative of a sorta clueless poster who didn't do anything to trim down the digest]. I think/hope the content filtering can do something like that. Yes?? /B\ Bernie Cosell bernie(a)fantasyfarm.com -- Too many people; too few sheep --

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gid problem upgrading mailman under opensuse leap 42
by Lucio Chiappetti 28 Aug '18

28 Aug '18

I used to have on my machine a "personal" mailman installation managing a few small lists (mailman 2.1.14, opensuse 11, MTA=sendmail). I am now in the process of moving to a new machine with opensuse leap 42 (and mailman 2.1.26 bundled with the distro. MTA is still sendmail). I would like to share my arrangement, in particular the way I overcame the error execing script "wanted gid 67 got gid 2". The solution is not yet in production (the new machine shall replace the old machine and assume its hostname, so far it THINKS to have the old hostname via /etc/hosts but the DNS still says to the world the old machine has the old hostname, so I tested things only locally, but it looks they work ... the administration web interface runs under a temporary CNAME, and I was able to add a local user to a test list and send a message to it). The new distro has a README.SUSE file which looks unchanged since last time (and possibly has a problem with the gid's). So this is the procedure: (1) make sure /etc/sudoers on the new system contains the commands present on the old system (2) copy the entire /var/lib/mailman to the new system. This should contain the lists, archives, aliases and everything. (since rsync does not copy all files, a tar "preserving permissions and dates" was used for a few files) (3) make a2enflag MAILMAN to configure the new apache web server (it has already all necessary stuff as of old) (4) in sendmail.cf make sure to have the line O AliasFile=/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/mailman.aliases (5) copy the old script /usr/sbin/mailman.aliases (this is a two-liner /bin/cp /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mail/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases (6) copy the old local customization at end of mm_cfg.py, in particularly the three lines used to fake the MTA to be postfix while it is sendmail, and using the above script for aliases (delivery is SMTP direct) (7) in /etc/sysconfig/mailman set MAILMAN_MAIL_GID="daemon" Now according to the old procedure at this step one should issue command SuSEconfig -module mailman but this seems not to be working. So it is NECESSARY to edit manually file /etc/mailman/mailman.mail.gid and insert there "2" (the gid of daemon) FAILURE TO DO THIS GENERATES THE GID MISMATCH ERROR MENTIONED ABOVE (8) (re)start apache, sendmail and mailman -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "All that is google does not glitter Nor all who use alpine/procmail are lost"

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Templates for HTML-Pages and TXT-Messages
by Kai Thater 26 Aug '18

26 Aug '18

Hi, I am looking for a way to edit the templates for Welcome Messages, Usernotices etc. everything you can edit at /cgi-bin/mailman/edithtml/<listname> but for all lists that will be created. All Information I found was for very old Versions (from 2002) or for Mailman 3. Kind regards Kai

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Change system name after moving mailmain
by George R. Kasica 26 Aug '18

26 Aug '18

I relocated all the mailmain files to a new server (in AWS Cloud) and all is working well except the URLS its generating such as for admins to remove messages waiting approval all show the old system name for example: The skunk-works(a)netwrx1.org mailing list has 1 request(s) waiting for your consideration at: http://eagle.netwrx1.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/skunk-works which should read: http://netwrx1-mail.netwrx1.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admindb/skunk-works How and where can I modify this? I host file entry won't do it - it times out. Thanks --- George R. Kasica Phone: +1 414 732 8503 Fax: +1 206 374 6482 Owner Netwrx Consulting Jackson, WI USA gkasica(a)netwrx1.com http://www.netwrx1.com

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