Mailman 3 February 2019 - Mailman-Users

Uncaught runner exception
by Lothar Schilling 08 Mar '19

08 Mar '19

Hi everybody, a few weeks ago I upgraded from 2.1.16 (as far as I can remember...) to 2.1.29. Everything seemed to work fine at first. But then I found out that a lot of posts - actually far more than half of them - aren't archived any longer. What logging the errors tells me is this: Feb 28 12:29:02 2019 (3123) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xb5 in position 26: ordinal not in range(128) Feb 28 12:29:02 2019 (3123) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 119, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 190, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 77, in _dispose mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 216, in ArchiveMail h.processUnixMailbox(f) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 596, in processUnixMailbox self.add_article(a) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 640, in add_article author = fixAuthor(article.decoded['author']) File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 63, in fixAuthor while i>0 and (L[i-1][0] in lowercase or [error message stops right here] As I read in a previous thread the reason for this may be non-ascii compliant characters in the post, especially the "from:"-line. But why would Python or Mailman now all of a sudden use ASCII instead of UTF-8 in the first place? And if so: How can I change that behaviour? I am using Python 2.6.6 on a Centos 6 system. The output of /usr/lib64/python >>> import string >>> string.lowercase is 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' (as it is supposed to be). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Lothar Schilling

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Trying to secure the list server web page
by Jeffrey Westgate 02 Mar '19

02 Mar '19

Help? We have been running the list server on port 80 for ... years. Yesterday we created an ssl certificate, and move the http to https. Seems to be going fine, except for a few thing -- when a list owner tends to the moderator requests, and hits the Submit All Data button... depending on the browser, it says it is going to send the information over an insecure connection.... and nothing happens results-wise - the request is not handled. Is there some config we need to change in mailman to secure it properly? -- Jeff Westgate DIS UNIX/Linux System Administrator Facebook<https://mail.arkansas.gov/owa/redir.aspx?C=5LO1-Ca8cEq-DdT7YSljUIRyFa2JitUI…>|Twitter<https://mail.arkansas.gov/owa/redir.aspx?C=5LO1-Ca8cEq-DdT7YSljUIRyFa2JitUI…>|Linkedin<https://mail.arkansas.gov/owa/redir.aspx?C=5LO1-Ca8cEq-DdT7YSljUIRyFa2JitUI…>

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User doesn't get added to mailinglist
by Pascal Christen 02 Mar '19

02 Mar '19

Hi We have a problem since we updated from Mailman 2.1.27 -> 2.1.29 (FreeBSD). If we try to add an User on the Webgui "members/add" the Gui says successfully added and in the logs we see this: > logs/subscribe:Sep 20 10:04:59 2018 (20772) ugh_panteghini.ch: new > shouldfail(a)pascalchristen.ch, admin mass sub The user even get his confirmation mail with the password and link to his account. But if he tries to log in it says he's not authorized: > logs/mischief:Sep 20 10:09:48 2018 (33059) Login failure with private > rosters: shouldfail(a)pascalchristen.ch from X.X.X.X > logs/security:Sep 20 10:09:48 2018 (33059) Authorization failed > (private): user=shouldfail(a)pascalchristen.ch: list=ugh_panteghini.ch: > remote=X.X.X.X And if I check it with the command line tool the user isn't added: > ./list_members ugh_panteghini.ch > ... > shouldbeok(a)pascalchristen.ch Sometimes we're able to add an user when we set the "Send notifications about new registrations to the list owner?" to No. But it's like 50/50 if it works then or not. Do you guys have any idea whats wrong? Greetings Pascal

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email to sms?
by Dave Stevens 28 Feb '19

28 Feb '19

Hi, I've been using mailman to send routine announcements for a long time and more and more what people want is a text message. I've been able to discover gateways for individual carriers so that I can send to <number>@<gateway>.<carrier>.com and the subscriber gets a text, so phone notification which is quick and handy. This has been well received. I've been looking at the list of carriers getting longer and have looked into email to sms services but what I've seen has been commercial and too expensive. Is there a collaborative or open source email to sms project? Can anyone refer me to better information? I've been pretty much just casting around so far. TIA. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. ----- Ursula Le Guin

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Starting mailman on reboot
by Odhiambo Washington 28 Feb '19

28 Feb '19

Server: Ubuntu 18.01 I have followed these: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node42.html % update-rc.d mailman defaults But still, mailman doesn't start on reboot. Nothing in the logs suggest any reason. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Postfix relay_domains and MySQL tables (uncertainties of the beginner)
by Davide Marchi 28 Feb '19

28 Feb '19

> > On 2/25/19 8:51 AM, Davide Marchi wrote: >> Hi Friends, >> I've just installed Mailman 2.1.23 on Debian Stretch, Postfix+Dovecot >> with "virtual_domains" "virtual_users" "virtual_aliases" on MySQL, and >> all seems works fine, but not tested again. >> I write you for clarification before to start. >> >> I'm not shure about the Postfix option: >> >> postconf -e 'relay_domains = lists.example.com' > > This looks like Debian stuff and probably has to do with > postfix_to_mailman.py. Please see <https://wiki.list.org/x/12812344> > and > <https://wiki.list.org/x/15564817>. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > Well, I will investigate.. Many thanks for the tips Mark! Davide -- cosmogoniA n o p r o v a r e n o f a r e o n o n f a r e n o n c e p r o v a r e

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting mailman on reboot
by John 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

On 2/27/19 12:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/27/19 9:36 AM, John wrote: >> hmmm... I have mailman on 2 systems. One does not start on boot. Referencing >> the manual link, I have no misc/mailman on either system.(?) Both systems are >> ubuntu (different versions), with Virtualmin. > > misc/mailman is in the source distribution. If you installed the > Debian/Ubuntu package, you probably don't have that, but it appears you > do have /etc/init.d/mailman > >> From the failing system: >> root>systemctl status mailman >> ● mailman.service - LSB: Mailman Master Queue Runner >> Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mailman; bad; vendor preset: enabled) > These are normal. > >> Active: inactive (dead) > This of course is not. > > Are the ownership and mode of /etc/init.d/mailman the same on both > systems and is there any difference in the contents? > > You might try 'systemctl enable mailman' on the non-starting system. > > -- Mark Sapiro <mark(a)msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay > Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan I forgot I found the problem before, reminded myself by debugging again... ;-) The directory /var/run/mailman is going away on reboot, so mailman can't create the pid file. The work-around is to create /var/run/mailman with the proper permissions & ownership and start the mailman service. I'm going to compare my 2 init.d files, if there is no difference, I am going to patch the init.d file to check for /var/run/mailman... Thanks, John

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Starting mailman on reboot
by John 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

On 2/27/19 8:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/27/19 1:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >> The script in misc/ is the only one named mailman though. There is none in >> scripts/. > That was a mistake in the manual. It is now fixed. See > <https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node42.html>. > > >> I copied that into etc/init.d/ and rebooted, but mailman did not come up >> still. > > You may need 'chmod +x etc/init.d/'. > > What does 'systemctl status mailman' show? > hmmm... I have mailman on 2 systems. One does not start on boot. Referencing the manual link, I have no misc/mailman on either system.(?) Both systems are ubuntu (different versions), with Virtualmin. >From the failing system: root>systemctl status mailman ● mailman.service - LSB: Mailman Master Queue Runner Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mailman; bad; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8) John

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deleting archives, default sender addresses
by Dave McGuire 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

Hi folks. I'm a longtime Mailman 2 user, working with Mailman 3 for the first time (specifically v3.1.1) and things are going pretty well so far. I don't particularly like having to run it under Linux (we're a Solaris-based outfit) but I bit the bullet and built a VM for it. I've hit two little snags, though. First, I created a test list and exercised it a bit, then deleted it...the archives are still in Hyperkitty, though. How can I delete those? Second, address confirmation emails are coming from postorius(a)localhost.local. I've dug and dug, and I've not been able to override it. There are numerous archived forum posts about this, and none of the proposed solutions I've found seem to work. Help? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to secure the list server web page
by David Gibbs 27 Feb '19

27 Feb '19

On 2/27/2019 11:13 AM, Jeffrey Westgate wrote: > OK. thanks for that. So I can copy/paste the same line in the > mm_cfg.py, at the bottom, under the site-specific config block? Yes. david -- IBM i on Power Systems: For when you can't afford to be out of business! I'm riding 615 miles (Yes, you read that right) in the American Diabetes Association's Tour de Cure to raise money for diabetes research, education, advocacy, and awareness. You can make a tax-deductible donation to my ride by visiting https://mideml.diabetessucks.net. You can see where my donations come from by visiting my interactive donation map ... https://mideml.diabetessucks.net/map (it's a geeky thing). I may have diabetes, but diabetes doesn't have me!

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